Towns free of smart meters??

Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is free of smart meters.  Does your state or town have a ban on them?  Are people savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them from being installed?  Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell towers, no smart meters, etc.)  If so, please email me.....
Mary

problem is, mary, that towns change.  no guarantees.  
we were fighting it in eugene oregon but the eweb board
seemed to be determined to have it.  i think the cities
get big financial rewards for pushing it through, against
the wishes of the people.  i'm a bit leery of living anywhere
on planet earth at this point.  i think i'll move to another
planet.  joking.  just can't see a truly 'safe' place outside.  
i think the only safety is in alignment with the infinite.  

Robinett is correct. This all comes from the worship of the earth. It's the oldest religion known to man. Eugenics are now in play under the guise of  "green" "climate change" "global warming" "sustainability" "alternative fuels" . It's the same tactic that Hitler used. You can get people to get rid of others because they are doing it for the common good. You emit carbon dioxide and now there are steps in place to measure your carbon footprint. UN Agenda 21 wants to stack, pack, and radiate you in urban human centers. The power companies now send inflammation causing 20KHz- 500KHz fields into your home if you don't have a smart meter. All in the name of saving the planet. They  can ignore health concerns because it's all for the greater good.
So I agree with Robinett and just make sure you know where you are going when you die.

Can't you just live "off grid" to avoid them?

Mahalo,
~~Christin Brezil~~
Wife to Thomas
& Momma to
Dylan Bryce (11)
Evan Lane (6)
Lucian Kai (3)

@Al,

you wrote:
The power companies now send inflammation causing 20KHz- 500KHz fields into your home if you don't have a smart meter.

How do you know?

It is my understandding, that the older analogue meters do shield these frequencies a bit, but that the newer meters let them pass easily.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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www.milieuziektes.be
www.minderstraling.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
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  Robinett is correct. This all comes from the worship of the earth. It's the oldest religion known to man. Eugenics are now in play under the guise of  "green" "climate change" "global warming" "sustainability" "alternative fuels" . It's the same tactic that Hitler used. You can get people to get rid of others because they are doing it for the common good. You emit carbon dioxide and now there are steps in place to measure your carbon footprint. UN Agenda 21 wants to stack, pack, and radiate you in urban human centers. The power companies now send inflammation causing 20KHz- 500KHz fields into your home if you don't have a smart meter. All in the name of saving the planet. They  can ignore health concerns because it's all for the greater good.
  So I agree with Robinett and just make sure you know where you are going when you die.



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There is a system called G3-PLC. It boasts it's capablity to jump transformers and can be sent from 75 miles away.


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On Wed, May 15, 2013 9:12 AM PDT charles wrote:

I have opted out and have an analog meter I also measured this problem first hand. A scientist visited my home and confirmed that they were experimenting with new technology.


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On Wed, May 15, 2013 9:12 AM PDT charles wrote:

Maybe some small town just outside the suburbs so you don't have to drive too far to go to work in the city if need be.  My town has 83 people. It's a flood town and will never grow.  It only shrinks.  Only poor people live here.  Probably too poor to afford expensive wifi.  I'd bet no one in my town has wifi.  Just cheap dial up or the very slow century link high speed internet.  But I couldn't recommend anyone moving to this place. But maybe you could find some place like it.

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I'd move to your "poor" town in flash if economically possible.  I live where we have three smart meters per house - electric, gas, water - and have 40 mbps (slow?!!I think not!) Centurylink internet service.  The EMF from the meters, receivers, antennas, towers, etc is killing me.

Virginia's electric company just announced an Opt-Out plan. I THINK what they'll do is disable the wireless capability of the meter that's already installed. I'm unclear if there will be further complications, but I'll likely have it done.

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> Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is free of smart meters.  Does your state or town have a ban on them?  Are people savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them from being installed?  Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell towers, no smart meters, etc.)  If so, please email me.....
> Mary
>

Mary,

Sorry this is a couple weeks late, but I am trying to catch up on email. 

You said you are looking for towns that are free of smart meters. 

Californians lead the way again!  Go to this website to see a  list of 57 local governments within
California who are opposed to the mandatory wireless  ‘smart’ meter
program  and have passed ordinances that have made ‘smart’ meter
installations illegal within their jurisdictions!!   Names of cities and
counties are linked to news coverage or official council minutes that
substantiate each city or county’s inclusion.

http://stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/sample-letter-to-local-government/ca-local-governments-on-board/

Unfortunately, you will have to still put up with Cell Towers, Wi-Fi and a mass of wireless addicts, which tend to be worse in California cities than most other cities due to population density.  But, at least, there will be no smart meters.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

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      Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is free of smart meters.  Does your state or town have a ban on them?  Are people savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them from being installed?  Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell towers, no smart meters, etc.)  If so, please email me.....

Mary

   









 










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Those CA towns are not necessarily "free" of smart meters.
A moratorium is really only symbolic...it means city hall
made a statement to the utility co's, that they want further
testing to assure that smart meters are safe.
It means that'  city's city hall, is being supportive to the anti
smart meter movement.
However, it will only be "those" homeowners who resisted the
smart meters on their homes, and this means only a small percentage
of the areas population wouldn't have a smart meter on their home.
 
You will find that many if not most of those CA towns, as well as
many towns in many states with similiar moratoriums, will indeed
have smart meters in their towns. This means entire neighborhoods
and it means this RF is on the grid, and even if someone doesn't have
a smart meter, these frequencies are piggybacking on their home's
electrical wiring. (*piggybacking means RF is traveling on the home's
wiring system.) RF can also travel into a home via the water lines, when
hooked up to city water.
And many areas also have gas smart meters and water smart meters.
 
Blessings,
Lizzie
 

 
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      Mary,



Sorry this is a couple weeks late, but I am trying to catch up on email.  



You said you are looking for towns that are free of smart meters.  



Californians lead the way again!  Go to this website to see a  list of 57 local governments within

California who are opposed to the mandatory wireless  ‘smart’ meter

program  and have passed ordinances that have made ‘smart’ meter

installations illegal within their jurisdictions!!   Names of cities and

counties are linked to news coverage or official council minutes that

substantiate each city or county’s inclusion.



http://stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/sample-letter-to-local-government/ca-local-governments-on-board/



Unfortunately, you will have to still put up with Cell Towers, Wi-Fi and a mass of wireless addicts, which tend to be worse in California cities than most other cities due to population density.  But, at least, there will be no smart meters.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



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Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is free of smart meters.  Does your state or town have a ban on them?  Are people savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them from being installed?  Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell towers, no smart meters, etc.)  If so, please email me.....



Mary



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The UK has imposed a one year moratorium on the installation of any new smart
meters.
 
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Mary,

Sorry this is a couple weeks late, but I am trying to catch up on email. 

You said you are looking for towns that are free of smart meters. 

Californians lead the way again!  Go to this website to see a  list of 57 local
governments within

California who are opposed to the mandatory wireless  ‘smart’ meter
program  and have passed ordinances that have made ‘smart’ meter
installations illegal within their jurisdictions!!   Names of cities and
counties are linked to news coverage or official council minutes that
substantiate each city or county’s inclusion.

http://stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/sample-letter-to-local-government/ca-local-governments-on-board/


Unfortunately, you will have to still put up with Cell Towers, Wi-Fi and a mass
of wireless addicts, which tend to be worse in California cities than most other
cities due to population density.  But, at least, there will be no smart meters.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

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Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is
free of smart meters. Does your state or town have a ban on them? Are people
savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them
from being installed? Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other
than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell
towers, no smart meters, etc.) If so, please email me.....

Mary

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  I love the sent from "hard wired computer"!!!Puts a smile on my face everytime I see this.  I don't know how a "Moratorium" works in the UK- and I'm hoping for those in the UK, that a Moratorium holds alot morepower.   I  do know very well how they workhere, in the US. Here it is more symbolic, its  a nice statement made by the local city halls,BUT in order for the Moratorium to be "effective", the city has to back that statement up with action. This meansthey have to be willing to back up the residents who don't want a smart meter on their home.A Moritorium is not a law, and its not the same as a citywide ban. Here a "ban" is an actual ordinance, like a law for that city.Here on this site: www.W4AR.comclick on red box on left for smart meters, then see all the different moratiums from diferent city's herein the state of Michigan. YOu can read the actual documents yourself, right on this site.   www.telegraph.co.uk › Earth › EnergyJan 14, 2012 – British Gas, which has already installed nearly 400,000 smart meters in homes and business, urged the Government to continue with the ...
 Lizzie
P.S.
 
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      The UK has imposed a one year moratorium on the installation of any new smart

meters.

 

Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti

805-642-0546

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Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 10:20:06 PM

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Mary,



Sorry this is a couple weeks late, but I am trying to catch up on email.  



You said you are looking for towns that are free of smart meters.  



Californians lead the way again!  Go to this website to see a  list of 57 local

governments within



California who are opposed to the mandatory wireless  ‘smart’ meter

program  and have passed ordinances that have made ‘smart’ meter

installations illegal within their jurisdictions!!   Names of cities and

counties are linked to news coverage or official council minutes that

substantiate each city or county’s inclusion.



http://stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/sample-letter-to-local-government/ca-local-governments-on-board/



Unfortunately, you will have to still put up with Cell Towers, Wi-Fi and a mass

of wireless addicts, which tend to be worse in California cities than most other

cities due to population density.  But, at least, there will be no smart meters.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



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From: epicsconartist <[hidden email]>

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To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 9:18 PM



 



Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is

free of smart meters. Does your state or town have a ban on them? Are people

savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them

from being installed? Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other

than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell

towers, no smart meters, etc.) If so, please email me.....



Mary



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i understand that the cities get a GREAT DEAL of $$$
to put the smart meters in.  it's another case of profit
before people and corruption in politics.  
love, patricia  


On May 30, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Elizabeth thode wrote:

>  I love the sent from "hard wired computer"!!!Puts a smile on my face everytime I see this.  I don't know how a "Moratorium" works in the UK- and I'm hoping for those in the UK, that a Moratorium holds alot morepower.   I  do know very well how they workhere, in the US. Here it is more symbolic, its  a nice statement made by the local city halls,BUT in order for the Moratorium to be "effective", the city has to back that statement up with action. This meansthey have to be willing to back up the residents who don't want a smart meter on their home.A Moritorium is not a law, and its not the same as a citywide ban. Here a "ban" is an actual ordinance, like a law for that city.Here on this site: www.W4AR.comclick on red box on left for smart meters, then see all the different moratiums from diferent city's herein the state of Michigan. YOu can read the actual documents yourself, right on this site.   www.telegraph.co.uk ˝ Earth ˝ EnergyJan 14, 2012 ˆ British Gas, which has already installed nearly 400,000 smart meters in homes and business, urged the Government to continue with the ...
> Lizzie
> P.S.

I hope this is true.
On April 23, representatives from Stop Smart Meters UK spoke to British MP’s
about the clear and present risks which ‘smart’ meters would impose upon British
families.
Dr Liz Evans spoke of health effects, saying there are hundreds of studies
showing “evidence of harm could be acute”, including possible “chronic effects
from long term exposure such as cancer, infertility, dementia, genetic damage,
immune system dysfunction and damage to foetuses”.
IT systems engineer Mike Mitcham added newly uncovered information about the
dangers of hacking vulnerabilities and privacy violations caused by the new
meters installations.
On May 10, the UK Government announced that the ‘smart’ meter installations
throughout the country will be delayed by more than a year.
 
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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 7:41:33 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Towns free of smart meters??

  I love the sent from "hard wired computer"!!!Puts a smile on my face everytime
I see this.  I don't know how a "Moratorium" works in the UK- and I'm hoping for
those in the UK, that a Moratorium holds alot morepower.  I  do know very well
how they workhere, in the US. Here it is more symbolic, its  a nice statement
made by the local city halls,BUT in order for the Moratorium to be "effective",
the city has to back that statement up with action. This meansthey have to be
willing to back up the residents who don't want a smart meter on their home.A
Moritorium is not a law, and its not the same as a citywide ban. Here a "ban" is
an actual ordinance, like a law for that city.Here on this site:
www.W4AR.comclick on red box on left for smart meters, then see all the
different moratiums from diferent city's herein the state of Michigan. YOu can
read the actual documents yourself, right on this site.  www.telegraph.co.uk ›
Earth › EnergyJan 14, 2012 – British Gas, which has already installed nearly
400,000 smart meters in homes and business, urged the Government to continue
with the ...
Lizzie
P.S.

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Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 07:51:48 -0700
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      The UK has imposed a one year moratorium on the installation of any new
smart


meters.



Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti

805-642-0546

[hidden email]



________________________________

From: C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 10:20:06 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Towns free of smart meters??



 

Mary,



Sorry this is a couple weeks late, but I am trying to catch up on email. 



You said you are looking for towns that are free of smart meters. 



Californians lead the way again!  Go to this website to see a  list of 57 local

governments within



California who are opposed to the mandatory wireless  ‘smart’ meter

program  and have passed ordinances that have made ‘smart’ meter

installations illegal within their jurisdictions!!  Names of cities and

counties are linked to news coverage or official council minutes that

substantiate each city or county’s inclusion.



http://stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/sample-letter-to-local-government/ca-local-governments-on-board/




Unfortunately, you will have to still put up with Cell Towers, Wi-Fi and a mass

of wireless addicts, which tend to be worse in California cities than most other


cities due to population density.  But, at least, there will be no smart meters.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



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From: epicsconartist <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Towns free of smart meters??

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 9:18 PM







Still waiting to hear from anyone who can recommend a good place to live that is


free of smart meters. Does your state or town have a ban on them? Are people

savvy about smart meters where you live and actively working to prevent them

from being installed? Do you know of a great small, family-oriented town (other

than Green Bank, WV) that is a good place to live for people with EHS? (few cell


towers, no smart meters, etc.) If so, please email me.....



Mary



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I voted for President Obama but I hate that he gave the utilities half the money
to implement the smart grid.
 
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Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 8:34:31 PM
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i understand that the cities get a GREAT DEAL of $$$
to put the smart meters in. it's another case of profit
before people and corruption in politics.
love, patricia

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Oh yea...they sure do.
My little town of pop 3,000 got paid a 30,000
bonus for letting dte put there fluorescent light
bulbs in city hall's building.
Nice eh?
Schools get paid extra money every time a child gets put on Ritalin.
 
Lizzie
 
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      i understand that the cities get a GREAT DEAL of $$$

to put the smart meters in.  it's another case of profit

before people and corruption in politics.  

love, patricia  



On May 30, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Elizabeth thode wrote:



>  I love the sent from "hard wired computer"!!!Puts a smile on my face everytime I see this.  I don't know how a "Moratorium" works in the UK- and I'm hoping for those in the UK, that a Moratorium holds alot morepower.   I  do know very well how they workhere, in the US. Here it is more symbolic, its  a nice statement made by the local city halls,BUT in order for the Moratorium to be "effective", the city has to back that statement up with action. This meansthey have to be willing to back up the residents who don't want a smart meter on their home.A Moritorium is not a law, and its not the same as a citywide ban. Here a "ban" is an actual ordinance, like a law for that city.Here on this site: www.W4AR.comclick on red box on left for smart meters, then see all the different moratiums from diferent city's herein the state of Michigan. YOu can read the actual documents yourself, right on this site.   www.telegraph.co.uk ˝ Earth ˝ EnergyJan 14, 2012 ˆ British Gas, which has already installed nearly 400,000 smart meters in homes and business, urged the Government to continue with the ...

> Lizzie

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