Titanium dental implants

Hi all,

I went to my dentist this morning... the person in the room next door
was going to have an implant, so I asked my dentist about metal-free
implants (as we all know here, metal inside the body just
makes ES symptoms worse).  He said that he was going to start
offering all-zirconia (glass) implants this fall.  I mentioned that
I thought I might be allergic to Titanium (usually used in implants).  
I thought this might surprise him, as Titanium is supposed to be
non-allergenic.  However, instead he said "I think most people are
allergic to Titanium"!

I don't currently have any dental implants, but I'm glad to hear
that there are options that don't involve metal!

Marc

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Marc,

Thanks for shairng. Isn't that something. Most people are allergic to titanium.

I can't handle titanium. Was in my old metal framed glasses.

Kathy




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Hi all,



Dentist said  he was going to start

offering all-zirconia (glass) implants this fall. I mentioned that

I thought I might be allergic to Titanium (usually used in implants).

I thought this might surprise him, as Titanium is supposed to be

non-allergenic. However, instead he said "I think most people are

allergic to Titanium"!





Marc



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> Thanks for sharing. Isn't that something. Most people are allergic to titanium.

I don't know for sure that I'm allergic to Titanium... I do however
recall having some sort of adverse reaction to a Titanium pill
container, and also sunscreen that has Titanium Dioxide in it...

... and I definitely would not want it in a dental implant...

Marc

Marc,

My dentist said he has had good results using zirconium implants for the last 5 years. Of course, many websites state that Zirconium Implants have had a good 20 year track record being used for hip and joint replacements, but have only been used in implants for 10 years, which is not long enough to determine if there are going to be problems with them.

If I had to make a choice between metal and zirconiumm implants, of course I would choose zirconium, which is more inert and is electrically neutral. 

Dentists say that Ceramic implants and crowns retain less plaque and calculus than Titanium, and therefore promote healthier gums. But, my issure is with implants themselves.  They are a pretty large screw that is screwed into your jawbone and that dentists claim binds right to the bone.  But I am concerned about bacteria living in and around the implant.  And I know for myself, being exposed to EMF's and being  ES,I am having a terrible time keeping the bacteria in my mouth under control. 

I had two good teeth with root canals in them and I monitored them over a period of several years and when the bacteria levels in them became too high, I had them pulled.  I would rather not have a tooth than to have a high bacteria count living in them  - and this bacteria, which can be staph and strep, and other nasty stuff, can cause heart attacks and other immune  problems.  I suppose I could try getting a Zi implant, and monitor it for bacteria counts, if the kit is still available.   They say they only last about ten years anyway.


http://www.intelligentdental.com/2010/03/23/deciding-for-ceramic-dental-implants/

Dental ceramic implants are bio-compatible
(completely tissue-friendly); there are no allergic reactions, no
sensitivity to temperature and no impact on taste. The zirconium oxide
ceramic shows no interactions with other dental materials and is ELECTRICALLY NEUTRAL.
Because of a friendly gum reaction and due to dental plaque being
less attached to them, the crown margin shows no symptoms of
inflammation in the gums region. Better gum health minimizes the risk of losing an implant.Since zirconium is white and is much more similar to natural teeth,
the aesthetics is more easily achieved than regular titanium implants.
Even if soft tissue around the tooth recede, which is possible over time, ceramic dental implants will not reveal ugly gray lines like in the case of titanium implants.Some patients dislike the idea of having metal in their mouths and some allergies to titanium have been reported therefore ceramic dental root implants could be their preferred choice.
Are there any problems with ceramic dental implants?
Zirconium dental implants are a one piece
structure and you will need to see your dentist quite a few times over
a period of 4 – 6 months for monitoring of the healing. Also, a
one-piece implant can only work in one position, unlike a two-piece
implant for which angled abutments are available.Zirconia implants may be subjected to hydrolysis whereby they can absorb water and become prone to fracture.

There is well documented occurrence of tissue impacted
by titanium implants - up to the level of tissue having grayish
staining around the implant area. There should be more data available
on the effects of Ti nano-particles in tissue before Ti is considered
to be safe for implants. Alloy quality and impurities might also be issues with Ti, while
Zirconia seems more inert, though more research on this one is needed -
especially with regard to mechanical and thermal stress scenarios of
doted ceramics.
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      Hi all,



I went to my dentist this morning... the person in the room next door

was going to have an implant, so I asked my dentist about metal-free

implants (as we all know here, metal inside the body just

makes ES symptoms worse).  He said that he was going to start

offering all-zirconia (glass) implants this fall.  I mentioned that

I thought I might be allergic to Titanium (usually used in implants).  

I thought this might surprise him, as Titanium is supposed to be

non-allergenic.  However, instead he said "I think most people are

allergic to Titanium"!



I don't currently have any dental implants, but I'm glad to hear

that there are options that don't involve metal!



Marc



   
     

   
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Zirconium is a metal, transition metal at the least, though it may be
more compatible for some people.

If I was looking for implants, I'd go over to Asia, or Europe, where they are doing autologus stemcell implants to grow your own new teeth.

~ Snoshoe

forgot the link:
http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/zr.htm

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> Zirconium is a metal, transition metal at the least, though it may be
> more compatible for some people.
>
> If I was looking for implants, I'd go over to Asia, or Europe, where they are doing autologus stemcell implants to grow your own new teeth.
>
> ~ Snoshoe
>

How come you didn't get a metal free bridge?
Steve

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The reason I didn't get a bridge is because you need someting to anchor the bridge to and I an empty space there, and in other areas where I could've got a bridge, the teeth were not healthy enough to anchor to.  Why spend a lot of money on a bridge for an anchor tooth that may fail or need major work.  I have empty spaces where teeth used to be and an implant would be wonderful, if I could tolerate them.  But I have issues with them and do'nt trust dentists to be that intimate with my jawbone.  You have to take antibiotics and the procedure is pretty invasive.


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      How come you didn't get a metal free bridge?

Steve



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> If I had to make a choice between metal and zirconiumm implants, of course I would choose zirconium, which is more inert and is electrically neutral.  











 





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  Could you not take colloidal silver or grapefruit seed extract instead of the antibiotics? I have used grapefruit seed extract to get rid of infections in my teeth and gums for several years so do many of the  people in the groups for Lynne Disease -- in fact the last time I took antibiotics I got infections in both eyes that took  me over 3 years to get rid of. Never again for any reason will I take antibiotics .

Coconut oil and oregano oil has been very effective at killing even hard to kill bacteria in studies also.

Low level lasers are very very effective at getting rid of pain too - I have been using a red LL laser to cope with pain from microwave radiation until I could get the money to fix my home per the instructions.  I have been amazed at how effective even a cheap red laser is.

          blessings
              Shan

More Good News on Coconut Oil
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut-antimicrobial.html 
by Mary G. Enig, PhD
Part of the research focused on Staphylococcus aureus. In vitro studies were performed on two strains of Staphylococcus aureus and this was followed by in vivo studies in mice. The effects of monolaurin and originum when used in combination were better than the most potent antibiotic and this research showed that these safe antimicrobial agents could be useful for prevention and therapy of Staphylococcus aureus and numerous other infections

The Latest Studies on Coconut Oil
One of the very useful oils in the food supply comes from the coconut. Coconut oil has suffered from unjust criticism for more than 30 years in the United States because some of the governmental and food oil organizations, as well as consumer activist organizations such as Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), have claimed that coconut oil as a "saturated fat" is shown to be atherogenic. This is not true. BENEFICIAL FOR HEART DISEASE: virgin coconut oil, which was obtained by wet process, had a beneficial effect in lowering total cholesterol, triglycerides, phospholipids and low density lipoproteins (LDL). more. ANTI-MICROBIAL: A few researchers have known for some time that a derivative of coconut oil, lauric acid and monolaurin, are safe antimicrobial agents that can either kill completely or stop the growth of some of the most dangerous viruses and bacteria.more
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut-oil-studies.html 


excerpts from
Coconut Oil:  Miracle Medicine and Diet Pill
by Eric Armstrong - Introduction
Infiltrates Microbial Invaders and Strips Away Defences
Monolaurin works, not by attacking an invader directly, but by destroying the invader's "body armour". You see, our skin, sinuses, and digestive tract "ain't a fit place to live" for a harmful bacteria or virus. So they wrap themselves in fatty acids and sneak in that way -- the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. In this case, the wolf's cloak is weaved from multiple fatty acid strands.

Because monolaurin is a fatty acid, it gets weaved in, as well. But monolaurin is so biologically active that it rapidly dissolves, disintegrating the microbe's protective coating. The microbe must use whatever fatty acids happen to be available to weave it's body armour, and if monolaurin is in the immediate vicinity, the microbe has to use whatever is available.

But monolaurin isn't attacking the microbe directly, the way the immune system does. So the microbe doesn't evolve a defense. Instead, it's the body's chemical environment that destroys the invader-- and that's an attack that can't be defended against.[Fife, Miracles, 101-103] So unlike antibiotics, monolaurin doesn't produce resistant strains. That's another reason that monolaurin has proven to be so effective against AIDs, which proliferates by continually and rapidly evolving into new, drug-resistant strains.

Also, since monolaurin doesn't attack bacteria directly, the healthy bacteria we need to create B-vitamins and perform other functions in the digestive tract are unaffected -- again unlike antibiotics, which kill all bacteria indiscriminately.

Monolaurin works its magic in two different ways, depending on whether it is saliva or bacteria that is releasing the monolaurin:
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Shan.

I would be interested to know if you ordered the laser over the internet and where you are using it to reduce pain.  I have used laser to kill bacteria in Root Canal teeth, but not for pain.

That is true that Colloidal Silver, GSE, Oregon, Coconut Oil have antibiotic qualities  Oregono is my friend and has saved my life more than once.  And Mary G. Enig, has very good information on Coconut Oill.  I have a large file of information on Coconut Oil and I have ordered Virgin Coconut Oil from the Phillipines for many years. 

But what I was referring to is that NO dentist I know of will do an invasive procedure like a dental implant unless the patient takes antibiotics to prevent infection.  They do not want the liability.  Maybe you could sign a waiver. 

But I advise anyone getting a dental implant to think very seriously about how to deal with an infection if one should arise.  When I had two root canal teeth pulled, I did not take antibiiotics, and got a horrible full blown infection.  Both sockets were full of puss and the dentist failed to tell me that he was going on a two week vacation the day after the procedure, so he was not available to do anything about it.  Plus, when I went to another dentist to try and go something about it, they said they did not want the liability of dealing with another dentist's  dental work.

I eventually got a Naturopath to inject Ozone in the sockets several times, which did nothing, then I finally got an Electrodermaltherapist to determine that the infection was fungal.  I refuse to take antibiotics and it turns out they wouldn't have done any good any way becaue the infection was entirely fungal.  He injected some very effective antifunal remedies from Germany in to the sockets and the infection was gone within 5 days.

But, dealing with the infection cost me an extra $800 on top of what the dental work cost.

Colloidal Silver, GSE, Oregono, and Coconut Oil would not have been effective against such a full blown, ACUTE, aggressive and urgent infection such as this.  A topical or direct area treatment would be better than a systemic one.  In my present state of immune system weakness, I need to find the most effective and fast acting remedy I can to deal with an ACUTE infection on open wounds, so that my immune system can focus on healing the wound, not in dealing with an infection in the wound..  

Invasive DENTAL procedure with open wounds involved are prone to nasty infections in people with weaker immune systems.  If you do not want to take antibiotics, have a better plan ready for what to do in case you get an ACUTE infection, because there is a chance that  Colloidal Silver, GSE, Oregono and Coconut Oil  will not  be able to get ahold of the infection before you end up in the hospital.   Expensive and painful.

Of course, if I were in a situation where I had an ACUTE infection in an open wound in my mouth, and there was no medical care or fancy German Remedies available ----as a last restort, I might put Honey or Coconut Oil, or Oregono Oil, or Clove Oil,  on a Gauss pad and put that on the wound several times a day and hope for the best. 

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee




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        Could you not take colloidal silver or grapefruit seed extract instead of the antibiotics? I have used grapefruit seed extract to get rid of infections in my teeth and gums for several years so do many of the  people in the groups for Lynne Disease -- in fact the last time I took antibiotics I got infections in both eyes that took  me over 3 years to get rid of. Never again for any reason will I take antibiotics .



Coconut oil and oregano oil has been very effective at killing even hard to kill bacteria in studies also.



Low level lasers are very very effective at getting rid of pain too - I have been using a red LL laser to cope with pain from microwave radiation until I could get the money to fix my home per the instructions.  I have been amazed at how effective even a cheap red laser is.



blessings

              Shan












 





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I have used a rotation of essential oils that are quite effective anti fungals. The trick is, you DO have to shield the products from emfs, any products......otherwise, they lose their effectiveness. I use Melrose blend, which packs a mighty punch on fungal based infections (an essential oil blend from www.youngliving.com) and alternate with: oregano oil blended with Myrhh oil, and Iodine.It is best to alternate because fungals today, are multiplied 600%, by emfs. So I keep my "natural weapons" shielded, using the high performance fabric from lessemf. I also had two teeth pulled, that were root canals, and had them properly cleaned....I used the essential oil of Helycyrsum from young living, immediately after this procedure, had NO swelling, no bruising, and while I did ice it right away, I know the Helycrysum did most of hte work, as it is a blood cleanser. My mouth was healed within 48 hours! Truly amazing. I have not seen ANY results with Collodial Silver. As for topical versus oral, I have done both while treating numerous infections in the past. I use glass spray bottles and have my oils diluted to use on skin, mouth, ect....and then I would put 3-4 drops of the oil blend into a small glass of Ninxgia Red, which is an immune boosting drink young living sellls.Using natural methods, I found you have to be aggressive. Both oral and topical, and every 4 hours, and rotating between 2 and 3 remedies.Clove essential oil used straight will burn. It needs to be diluted.  Lizzie
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      Shan.



I would be interested to know if you ordered the laser over the internet and where you are using it to reduce pain.  I have used laser to kill bacteria in Root Canal teeth, but not for pain.



That is true that Colloidal Silver, GSE, Oregon, Coconut Oil have antibiotic qualities  Oregono is my friend and has saved my life more than once.  And Mary G. Enig, has very good information on Coconut Oill.  I have a large file of information on Coconut Oil and I have ordered Virgin Coconut Oil from the Phillipines for many years.  



But what I was referring to is that NO dentist I know of will do an invasive procedure like a dental implant unless the patient takes antibiotics to prevent infection.  They do not want the liability.  Maybe you could sign a waiver.  



But I advise anyone getting a dental implant to think very seriously about how to deal with an infection if one should arise.  When I had two root canal teeth pulled, I did not take antibiiotics, and got a horrible full blown infection.  Both sockets were full of puss and the dentist failed to tell me that he was going on a two week vacation the day after the procedure, so he was not available to do anything about it.  Plus, when I went to another dentist to try and go something about it, they said they did not want the liability of dealing with another dentist's  dental work.



I eventually got a Naturopath to inject Ozone in the sockets several times, which did nothing, then I finally got an Electrodermaltherapist to determine that the infection was fungal.  I refuse to take antibiotics and it turns out they wouldn't have done any good any way becaue the infection was entirely fungal.  He injected some very effective antifunal remedies from Germany in to the sockets and the infection was gone within 5 days.



But, dealing with the infection cost me an extra $800 on top of what the dental work cost.



Colloidal Silver, GSE, Oregono, and Coconut Oil would not have been effective against such a full blown, ACUTE, aggressive and urgent infection such as this.  A topical or direct area treatment would be better than a systemic one.  In my present state of immune system weakness, I need to find the most effective and fast acting remedy I can to deal with an ACUTE infection on open wounds, so that my immune system can focus on healing the wound, not in dealing with an infection in the wound..  



Invasive DENTAL procedure with open wounds involved are prone to nasty infections in people with weaker immune systems.  If you do not want to take antibiotics, have a better plan ready for what to do in case you get an ACUTE infection, because there is a chance that  Colloidal Silver, GSE, Oregono and Coconut Oil  will not  be able to get ahold of the infection before you end up in the hospital.   Expensive and painful.



Of course, if I were in a situation where I had an ACUTE infection in an open wound in my mouth, and there was no medical care or fancy German Remedies available ----as a last restort, I might put Honey or Coconut Oil, or Oregono Oil, or Clove Oil,  on a Gauss pad and put that on the wound several times a day and hope for the best.  



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



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Subject: [eSens] Re: Titanium dental implants

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Could you not take colloidal silver or grapefruit seed extract instead of the antibiotics? I have used grapefruit seed extract to get rid of infections in my teeth and gums for several years so do many of the  people in the groups for Lynne Disease -- in fact the last time I took antibiotics I got infections in both eyes that took  me over 3 years to get rid of. Never again for any reason will I take antibiotics .



Coconut oil and oregano oil has been very effective at killing even hard to kill bacteria in studies also.



Low level lasers are very very effective at getting rid of pain too - I have been using a red LL laser to cope with pain from microwave radiation until I could get the money to fix my home per the instructions.  I have been amazed at how effective even a cheap red laser is.



blessings



Shan



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    I started using the grapefruit seed extract several years ago - I had gone to visit some friends there and the second day I got an infected tooth . It would have cost more then I could afford to go to the dentist there so got some grapefruit seed extract and put 13 drops in a glass of water and gargled with it a few time before drinking the remainder, It tasted awful. Anyways I did that 3 times a day and a couple of times at night -- the pain and infection was totally gone in less then 3 days and has never come back.  

       I think I remember you saying you had MCS - well so do I. That was the first time I tried flying since I got MCS -- everyone I know who has MCS said I was crazy to take that chance . And they were right, I was crazy - I could not ever walk straight when I got to my destination and was lucky that I was met because there was no way I could have figured out how to get to their home. It was like I was doped - the chemicals in the plane plus the perfumes etc also did a number on my cognitive abilities as well as my immune system , so much so that I got Lyme Disease and one of its co-infections when I was in the States.

   In my opinion, you are selling the abilities of oregano oil, clove oil, colloidal silver, etc short.They have shown even in studies that they get rid of antibiotic resistant bugs like MRSA etc. Plus oregano oil, clove oil, coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract, and colloidal silver ALL kill fungus......... there are all used to get rid of candida too, which is a fungus.........

    I am sorry about your experience and the expense -I can imagine it must have been scary as well as expensive.


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This, in turn, encourages cell repair and growth. In fact, research has confirmed that an amazing 90% of humans with dementia show improvement when treated with infrared lasers such as those produced by the 700 LED bulbs contained in the helmet.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2376496/Special-helmet-which-beams-infrared-light-into-the-brain-could-cure-dementia.html

   However you are correct about the dentists -- it does not surprise me that most of them would insist on antibiotics. Have you ever tried a "Biological Dentist"?  They don't use mercury and are open to substitutes for drugs among other things .............you might also try 'Holistic" dentists as well as "Mercury Free" dentists. I think you said you lived in BC??  These dentists would not insist on antibiotics but would be open and at least somewhat knowledgeable about alternatives - I know several people whom have MCS, including my Environmental doctor, whom have used these dentists with good results.

    Mercury Free & Biological Dentists in British Columbia          
BRITISH COLUMBIA - CANADA:
Holistic Dentists / Mercury Free Dentists / Biological Dentists
http://www.talkinternational.com/holistic-dentists/biological-dentist-canada-bc.html

Whole bunch of links at this website
http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Dentistry/find_best_dentist.htm


  British Columbia
    Dr. Hugh Thomson (250) 374-5902 Kamloops B.C.
    Dr. Reiver (250) 562-5551 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. Madeson Basie (604) 222-8292 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. Rex Fortescue (604) 224-3288 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. Peter Brawn (604) 320-7252 Burnaby B.C.
    Dr. Rico Ricketts (604) 736-4535 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. Ara Elmajian (604) 876-9228 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. A. Gorrel (604) 943-2291 Delta B.C..
    Dr. Robert Lee (604) 943-4182 Delta B.C.
    Dr. Alvin Nirenberg (604) 985-4451 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. Michael Drance (604) 688-2354 Vancouver B.C.
    Dr. Peter Balogh (604) 434-0248 Burnaby, B.C.
    Dr. Erika Komagata (604) 685-6615 Vancouver. B.C.
    Dr.David Charbonneau (604) 473-4880 Burnaby B.C.
    Dr. Dino S. Paulos  (250) 658-0742  Victoria, BC

   
     Most of the following info is over six years old and I need to check to see how much of it is still the same..........
 

Burnaby
-- Dr. Jonathan Kao Visit our Web Site  - Phone (604) 877-1878      
   City Dental Wellness Centre Visit our Web Site
    Phone (604)877-1878  
-- Dr. Riko Ricketts  Visit our Web Site Phone: (604) 736-4535  
               
Kelowna          
-- Dr. B. Broaderip & Associates  Visit our Web Site Phone: (250) 861-8777                              
 
Vancouver              
-- Dr. Madeson Basie Phone: (604) 222-8292

Mercury Free Dentists
http://mercuryfreedentists.com/

http://www.talkinternational.com/holistic-dentists/biological-dentist-canada-bc.html


Mercury Free & Biological Dentists in Ontario
http://www.talkinternational.com/health/dentists_canada_ontario.htm

Find a Holistic dentist in Ontario      http://www.dentalfind.com/Holistic_Dentistry/Ontario/Niagara_on_the_Lake/

Mercury Free Dentists in Canada
http://www.testfoundation.org/hgfreedentists.htm#CANADA


Mercury Free and Biological Dentists World Wide
http://www.talkinternational.com/health/mfdsindex1.htm


   But just google "holistic" or "biological" or "mercury free" dentists and the country and/or province where you live.


  As for lasers, I bought my red laser  on the internet from Sandi Radomski ND
I got the one she named  'Advanced' which is a red laser with a wider beam then the average pen laser - these lasers also have a wavelength of 635nm and strength of 5mw -- this is supposed to be the frequency of a healthy living cell.
http://www.allergyantidotes.com/etox_lasers.htm

 Basically the laser stimulates the body to heal itself -- the laser also sets into motion changes which result in changing the frequency of damaged cells to that of healthy living cells. Healthy cells are  not damaged nor do they have inflammation nor pain -- pain can not and does not exist in cells which are healthy.


Blue light destroys antibiotic-resistant staph infection
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/30/content_10735134.htm

Describes how The Biophoton Light Therapy Units with HIGH-Intensity Red Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs), which simulate the action of a Laser, were first used for Skin, Hair and Scalp Health Problems. Later, they were used therapeutically for Pain Reduction (Acupuncture, Reflex Points &/or Pain Areas), Immunological Disorders and Exhaustion States.
http://healingtools.tripod.com/BLT.html


      There are many studies about using lasers for pain --- that is probably the first thing I used it for.......now I have started to use it for detoxing and getting rid of allergies and sensitivities which is  actually what I had originally intended to do with the low level laser. However as long as the frequencies are causing biological damage I will need to use a laser for pain but more importantly for healing damage to the brain, heart , eyes, etc.

Introduction to Low Level Light Therapy (LLLT) for pain relief
James D Carroll
Page 12.  
Effects of Low-Level Laser Therapy and Eccentric Exercises in the Treatment of Recreational Athletes With Chronic Achilles Tendinopathy.
Stergioulas A, Stergioula M, Aarskog R, Lopes-Martins RA, Bjordal JM
Peloponnese University, Sparta, Laconia, Greece.
BACKGROUND: Eccentric exercises (EEs) are recommended for the treatment of Achilles
tendinopathy, but the clinical effect from EE has a slow onset.
HYPOTHESIS: The addition of lowlevel laser therapy (LLLT) to EE may cause more rapid clinical improvement.
STUDY DESIGN: Randomized controlled trial; Level of evidence,
1. METHODS: A total of 52 recreational athletes with chronic Achilles tendinopathy symptoms were randomized to groups receiving either EE + LLLT or EE + placebo LLLT over 8 weeks in a blinded manner. Low-level laser therapy (lambda =820 nm) was administered in 12 sessions by irradiating 6 points along the Achilles tendon with a power density of 60 mW/cm(2) and a total dose of 5.4 J per session.
RESULTS: The results of the intention-to-treat analysis for the primary outcome, pain intensity during physical activity on the 100-mm visual analog scale, were significantly lower in the LLLT group than in the placebo LLLT group, with 53.6 mm versus 71.5 mm (P = .0003) at 4 weeks, 37.3 mm versus 62.8 mm (P = .0002) at 8 weeks, and 33.0 mm versus 53.0 mm (P = .007) at 12 weeks after randomization. Secondary outcomes of morning stiffness, active dorsiflexion, palpation tenderness, and crepitation showed the
same pattern in favor of the LLLT group.
CONCLUSION: Low-level laser therapy, with the parameters used in this study, accelerates clinical recovery from chronic Achilles tendinopathy when added to an EE regimen. For the LLLT group, the results at 4 weeks were similar to the placebo LLLT group results after 12 weeks
CONTENTS:
Introduction to Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) for pain relief
How Low Level Light Therapy (LLLT) works
Back and neck pain
Neuropathic pain
Tendinopathies
Postoperative pain
Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of LLLT
Analgesic action of LLLT
http://www.thorlaser.com/downloads/research/THOR-LLLT-Pain-Research-Digest-Sept-2011.pdf

Achilles Pain, Stiffness, and Muscle Power Deficits: Achilles Tendinitis
American Physical Therapy Association guidelines recommend LLLT for Achilles tendonitis. (2010) .
Clinical Guidelines. INTERVENTIONS â€" LOW-LEVEL LASER THERAPY: Clinicians should consider the use of low-level laser therapy to decrease pain and stiffness in patients with Achilles tendinopathy. (Recommendation based on moderate evidence.)
http://www.jospt.org/issues/articleID.2480/article_detail.asp


   The last month I have been looking into how to make a helmet with lasers to treat/heal the brain - I have found directions how to make a helmet that is reasonably priced ,if one does not count the cost of the 300+ lasers that are used. And this laser helmet has been used by a group of people for the last 2 years for  growing hair,so the helmet works.  

Transcranial light therapy improves memory, cognition in traumatic brain injury
http://www.wellsphere.com/general-medicine-article/transcranial-light-therapy-improves-memory-cognition-in-traumatic-brain-injury/1388593

The helmet that could turn back the symptoms of Alzheimer's
Dr Dougal claims that only ten minutes under the hat a day is enough to have an effect.
Low level infra-red red is thought to stimulate the growth of cells of all types of tissue and encourage their repair. It is able to penetrate the skin and even get through the skull.
"But what if there was a technology that told the cells to repair themselves and that technology was something as simple as a specific wavelength of light?"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-510172/The-helmet-turn-symptoms-Alzheimers.html

New Treatments for Alzheimer's Shown to Improve Memory
According to Dr. Gordon Dougal and Dr. Abdel Ennaceur, who conducted the studies, the helmet has the potential to reverse — at least in part — some of the symptoms of Alzheimer's, including memory loss and anxiety. The helmet works by using "light beam technology," which has the unique capacity to penetrate the skull and stimulate the brain.
This, in turn, encourages cell repair and growth. In fact, research has confirmed that an amazing 90% of humans with dementia show improvement when treated with infrared lasers such as those produced by the 700 LED bulbs contained in the helmet.
http://undergroundhealthreporter.com/treatments-for-alzheimers

Special helmet which beams infrared light into the brain could cure dementia
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2376496/Special-helmet-which-beams-infrared-light-into-the-brain-could-cure-dementia.html

            blessings
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   Thank you Lizzie - much very helpful info.

    I had wondered if the frequencies effected natural alternatives -- well now I know why my anti-fungals do not seem to be working lately... .after being on antibiotics for 13 months ,I now have a really good dose of candida.

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   And thanks for sharing what works for you! I think I will be trying those oils.............

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You are welcome.  I have a friend who got me started on using the essential oils. She has a  cell phone, and also has a cordless phone. She called me one day, last year, complaining her " essential oils" didn't work anymore. That's strange, I thought, mine work fine! Then it dawned on me. If you put food in a micro wave, it cooks the nutreints right out of them. So it would make sense that the same thing would happen to herbs, natural remedies, when exposed to cell phone radiation. My daughter just took a trip, and I packed all her supplements/herbs/oils emerg med kit inside a shielded envelope I made.  I have another friend, who uses a cell phone, had a very sick kid with yeasty mouth/high fever that wouldn't break/ canker sores in mouth and on mouth......the kid's mouth was totally WHITE inside. YEAST.my friend only uses natural stuff...but couldn't get her child better. She had tried: Colloidial Silver and ORegano oil diluted. It barely made a dent. And what did make the dent was the Oregano, as the Silver only works on bacteria, and mosteverything today is always a fungal. And with fungals, you get much better & faster results if you alternate the herbs/oils  and you use them every 4 hrs. And do both, oral and topical. Leave no stone un turned is my motto! I had that little girl at my house for two days.........her mom had tried for a week to whip that nasty fungal infection. In two days.........POOF. Gone....She came with a fat canker lip sores,, fever, white mouth, and big sores in her mouth...she left with no fat lips, almost totally healed, red mouth normal color, no fever....And what I used in my email, is exactly what I used on that little girl. Oh, except I did make up a lip lotion for her, using the Melrose Oil and olive oil and myrhh.  The cancer sores are not fever blisters like people think. This is from PH being too acidic. Baking Soda in water also is a good natural remedy to try. Start with 1/4 teaspoon in 5 oz of water, and sip. Do this 3 times a day, last dose before bedtime. It helps to alkalize the blood. Its very safe. I take higher doses, but I've been doing this awhile. Yeast/mold/candida disease can only thrive in an acidic body. Anything that helps to alkalize will make the body yeast unfriendly. (Avocodos, cucumbers, garlic, all very alkaline foods.)SEE: Mighty Mallet of Baking Soda - Sodium Bicarbonate - IMVA sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/index.../mighty-mallet-of-baking-soda/Cached - SimilarYou +1'd this publicly. UndoBaking soda (sodium bicarbonate) lives up to the image on the Arm & Hammer's box; it is the ultimate heavyweight workhorse medicine that every healthcare ...Sodium Bicarbonate Dosages and Treatments – IMVA » Baking ... sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/.../baking-soda-every-cancer-patients-b...Cached - SimilarYou +1'd this publicly. UndoAs if it were not humiliating enough for orthodox oncologists to learn that the lowly chemical sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is important in the treatment of ... And no cell phones or wireless in my house certainly helped. **Also, I hope you taking a good brand of Probiotics. I prefer Mercola's. Best I've found anywhere. Well worth the money. As you get rid of bad yeast, you need to be replacing with good yeast. This is a very important part of the remedy. Otherwise, the bad guys willl just keep filling in those empty spaces. REad: Mercola Probiotics | Complete Probiotics - Mercola.com probiotics.mercola.com/ Lizzie
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I had wondered if the frequencies effected natural alternatives -- well now I know why my anti-fungals do not seem to be working lately... .after being on antibiotics for 13 months ,I now have a really good dose of candida.



That is a good idea for how to protect the natural products too - I guess the EMFs would effect coconut oil this way too? Well this is a pain in the neck but I am glad I know so I can remedy the problem. I guess the emfs would do the same thing to herbs too?



And thanks for sharing what works for you! I think I will be trying those oils.............



blessings

                     Shan



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In my opinion, you are selling the abilities of oregano oil, clove oil,
colloidal silver, etc short.They have shown even in studies that they
get rid of antibiotic resistant bugs like MRSA etc. Plus oregano oil,
clove oil, coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract, and colloidal silver
ALL kill fungus.........
Nope, I don't  take antiboitocs and drugs, only Herbs and Homeopaths for infections.   My immune system can get overwhelmed by an Acute infection and I know from experience that these naturakl antibiotics can be very effective.





Have you ever tried a "Biological Dentist"?



I have gone to Biological and Bioterrain Dentists for 30 years and
they do not require antibiotics, but most manistream dentists who do
implants would require them.  I see one of the most  advanced
Alternative Dentists on the West Coast.  I have had Stbinet from him
for Cavitations, microscopic exam of gum scrapings, before most
dentists even heard  of it, Materials Testing,  Cintanest instead of Novacaine, Digital X-rays, Panoramic X-rays, and he also uses an Electrodermaltherapist in conjunction with  many procedures.


 
I think you said you lived in BC??



Nope.  I am in Seattle, Washington, the Alternative Medicine Capital of the U.S.  But thank you anyway for the huge list of Alternative Dentists in B.C.  That was very helpful of you.  Maybe someone on the list from B.C.will find it useful.
You presented lots of good articles on Phototherapy.  I purchased a PHOTOTHERAPY WAND from the LIGHT ENERGY COMPANY back in the late 1980's.  It has RED LED lights on it and have used it on muscle pain. But I have always wanted a Blue LED wantd after I heard that Blue LED lights got rid of gum infections, but they were not available..  I also have the FULL SPECTRUM Work Lights and the SAD  Lightbox from the LIGHT ENERGY COMPANY.  If blue LED lights are now available to the public, I will certainly be getting them.

Phototherapy with LED lights also helps heal excema.  But, I am interested in the laser for pain and healing and will look into that.  Thanks for all the fantastic information.
C. Johnson
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Blue light destroys antibiotic-resistant staph infection

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/30/content_10735134.ht








 





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