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dental amalgams -- Re: [eSens] Re: This is interesting.

Kumara
I second removal of dental amalgams. Best thing I've ever done for my
health. I had 10 of small to mid-sized ones. I was *relatively* ok
with them till I was heavily exposed to wireless signals from a
mobile phone mast, which was just meters away from where I slept!

Being ignorant then, I was continually bombarded for months and my
health deteriorated like never before.

I've set up this little website to educate others: http://www.no-amalgam.cu.cc/

kb

marcmartin2 wrote thus at 01:33 AM 26-10-12:

>--- In [hidden email], Stefanie Toth <stefaniet2@...> wrote:
> > So you think electro sensible people are mainly poisoned with
> > certain metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about
> > it. There are certain therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.
>
>In general, the people who recover from ES are those who treat their
>condition as heavy-metal poisoning -- typically mercury.  To deal
>with this, you first need to eliminate your current exposures to
>mercury -- get any silver dental fillings removed, stop eating fish
>or sushi that is high in mercury, etc.   Then you there are various
>ways to remove heavy metals from your body -- taking supplements
>that remove metals (e.g. alpha lipoic acid), saunas, ionic footbaths, etc.
>
>At the same time, people with high amounts of metals in them
>generally have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, fungus, and
>viruses.  And the process of removing heavy metals can make these
>things worse before they get better, so you may also need eat foods
>or take supplements that are anti-bacterial/fungal/viral.
>
>There are of course other toxic exposures other than metals that can
>contribute (chemicals, etc.), and of course a lot of people don't
>get good nutrition because of junk foods, etc., so improving
>nutrition is also something that might help.
>
>Marc
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Stefanie Toth
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Thanks Lizzie, so it is also related to mercury.
Stefanie


--- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 26.10.2012:

> Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
> Betreff: RE: [eSens] This is interesting.
> An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Datum: Freitag, 26. Oktober, 2012 18:40 Uhr
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> Flu
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> what happens is, the body reaches a tipping point, where it
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> I said earlier that my working theory is that ES is a
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> of: Nutritional deficiencies, and Toxic Overload.
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> doesn’t matter which of the above comes first, because one
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> Flu
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> mercury fills the spot where the Iodine should have been.
> The thyroid, a major
> player in the body’s immune system, needs Iodine. And any
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> the body’s ability to handle any toxins.
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:42:39 +0100
> Subject: RE: [eSens] This is interesting.
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> That makes sense, but why flushots? How is that related. I
> once did one because of this
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> crazy swine flu panic. After, I became very sick. Could that
> be the reason I became electro sensitive?
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> --- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
> schrieb am Fr, 26.10.2012:
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> Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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> Betreff: RE: [eSens] This is interesting.
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> An: "[hidden email]"
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> Datum: Freitag, 26. Oktober, 2012 02:55 Uhr
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> Stefanie,The information is telling us, that heavy metals in
> the bodyact as antennas for emfs.  Also any metals worn
> on the outside of the body, like jewelry, piercings,
> zippers, metal eye glasses. Those with silver fillings,
> crowns in their mouth, those who get flushots, all are
> included in this category.Lizzie
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> To: [hidden email]
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> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:49 +0100
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.
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> Hi Marc,
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> So you think electro sensible peole are mainly poisoned with
> certain
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> metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about it.
> There are certain
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> therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.
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> Stefanie
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> --- Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:
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> Von: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
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> Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 22:46 Uhr
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> On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
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> > One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that
> can heal electro sensible people.
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> > All research is just at the beginning. The only thing
> what you can do, is to stay a while
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> > out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how
> your body reacts, maybe heals again.
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> > Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly
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> My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I
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Stefanie Toth
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Yes, I did a huge clean up a few years ago with a doctor doing orthomolecular medicin. Nevertheless, in the evironment we live I guess we have to do that now regularly.
I need to take that even more serious. It needs time and money, and these day both is also tight.

Blessing, Stefanie


--- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 26.10.2012:

Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Betreff: RE: AW: [eSens] Re: This is interesting.
An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Datum: Freitag, 26. Oktober, 2012 18:57 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
      Marc wrote:  At the same time, people with high amounts of metals in them generally have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, fungus, and viruses.  And the process of removing heavy metals can make these things worse before they get better, so you may also need eat foods or take supplements that are anti-bacterial/fungal/viral.

 



Long term use of anti biotics destroys the balance of gut health. I have taken Probiotics for many years as part of our health protocol.



See:



Antibiotics Treatment May Be a Main Cause of

Obesity - Mercola

 

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/.../antibiotics-promote-obesity.aspx



Probiotics are Essential to a Healthy Gut

Flora - Mercola



articles.mercola.com/.../one-of-the-most-important-steps-yo



Causes and Natural Remedies for Yeast

Infections - Mercola



articles.mercola.com/.../natural-remedies-for-yeast-infections.aspx



Probiotics | Complete Probiotics

Supplements - Mercola.com



probiotics.mercola.com/probiotics.html



Lizzie





   
     

   
   






 





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Stefanie Toth
In reply to this post by Auntie Patricia
Thanks. That's interesting :-) .
I am so angry. I was a teenager when they started to put me full
of anti-biotics. At the end my hair was fallen out. Fortunately, I found
at the end help, but it is still  not over. If you say something, then you are
a kind of trouble maker.

Stefanie


--- Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 26.10.2012:

Von: Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: AW: [eSens] Re: This is interesting.
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Freitag, 26. Oktober, 2012 21:43 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
      stefanie, a lot of people are using kefir

to restore their 'good bacteria' after using

anti-biotics... see "good_kefir_grains' -

another yahoo list.  milk kefir and water kefir.  

patricia



On Oct 26, 2012, at 6:01 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:



> Sushi. That is hard. Everything what I loved in my life.

> Actually, I am thinking I should become a vegetarian.

> Some doctors already said to me I should not eat meat too

> much.

>

> I removed already all mercury crones and made also

> a drainage (cleaining) to get all out of my body.

> Since my childhood I have cronical infections. Unfortunately,

> I took many years antibotics. That was not helping my body.

> I was totally poisoned for over 20 years. Then I started

> many therapies, such as detoxing and my body got stablized.

> I don't need to take antibotics anymore.

>

> Then, 4 years ago I noticed that I am electro sensitive.

> I put the power off and my infections reduce by themselve.

> That was a revolution for me. Since then I try to find

> an electro free zone to live and especially for sleeping.

>

> Paralllel, I will now also think how I can continue to detox

> my body.  Maybe then finally also the electro sensibility will

> disappear, which was possible the source of all my problems

> at first  place. This had been then over 40 years suffering,

> searching, and treatment..

>

> Thank you for all your suggestions and support,

> Stefanie

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> --- marcmartin2 <[hidden email]> schrieb am Do, 25.10.2012:

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> Von: marcmartin2 <[hidden email]>

> Betreff: [eSens] Re: This is interesting.

> An: [hidden email]

> Datum: Donnerstag, 25. Oktober, 2012 19:33 Uhr

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>      --- In [hidden email], Stefanie Toth <stefaniet2@...> wrote:

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>> So you think electro sensible people are mainly poisoned with

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>> certain metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about

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>> it. There are certain therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.

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> In general, the people who recover from ES are those who treat their condition as heavy-metal poisoning -- typically mercury.  To deal with this, you first need to eliminate your current exposures to mercury -- get any silver dental fillings removed, stop eating fish or sushi that is high in mercury, etc.   Then you there are various ways to remove heavy metals from your body -- taking supplements that remove metals (e.g. alpha lipoic acid), saunas, ionic footbaths, etc.  

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> At the same time, people with high amounts of metals in them generally have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, fungus, and viruses.  And the process of removing heavy metals can make these things worse before they get better, so you may also need eat foods or take supplements that are anti-bacterial/fungal/viral.

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Auntie Patricia
stefanie, i hope you will try kefir.  
it has helped me a lot.
you can make it from milk (i use goat milk)
or from water and add fruit for flavor.

also, our bodies reflect our thoughts.
i have made some videos that help
release old angst.  here's one...
http://youtu.be/cPvNSoyW4Pg

clearing our minds of fear, anger, sorrow,
regret, guilt, etc... is imperative for health.
our thoughts can stress us out, all by themselves...
and we carry them with us, wherever we go...
until and unless we consciously let them go.
when i first discovered this fact, i sat on
my sofa all day long, releasing the past...
it helped significantly.  i had less burden
to carry around on my shoulders.  it's a bit like
spring cleaning of the clutter between
our ears and lightening our load... such a relief!  

here's another:  
http://youtu.be/jJzqygpyO7Q

this has saved my life.  i was going down fast
and this lightened me and allowed me to think
differently.  my thoughts had been poisoning
me.  

love, patricia



On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:

> Thanks. That's interesting :-) .
> I am so angry. I was a teenager when they started to put me full
> of anti-biotics. At the end my hair was fallen out. Fortunately, I found
> at the end help, but it is still  not over. If you say something, then you are
> a kind of trouble maker.
>
> Stefanie


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Mercury
keep in mind sometimes our bodies are so polluted we cannot help but have these negative thoughts..so keep this in mind as best you can..

it is not you, it is not how we were created,
we are in pain our bodies hurt
our mind is overran with thoughts not even ours because of these toxins in our brain and gut (which are often one and the same)

i went through a lot of emotional issues when detoxing and still do, anger, regret, sadness, sense of loss, abandonement by friends and family. These are normal feelings and we have to as best we can grieve with them-the feelings and hope/pray that they too shall pass


--- In [hidden email], Auntie Patricia <auntiepatricia@...> wrote:

>
> stefanie, i hope you will try kefir.  
> it has helped me a lot.
> you can make it from milk (i use goat milk)
> or from water and add fruit for flavor.
>
> also, our bodies reflect our thoughts.
> i have made some videos that help
> release old angst.  here's one...
> http://youtu.be/cPvNSoyW4Pg
>
> clearing our minds of fear, anger, sorrow,
> regret, guilt, etc... is imperative for health.
> our thoughts can stress us out, all by themselves...
> and we carry them with us, wherever we go...
> until and unless we consciously let them go.
> when i first discovered this fact, i sat on
> my sofa all day long, releasing the past...
> it helped significantly.  i had less burden
> to carry around on my shoulders.  it's a bit like
> spring cleaning of the clutter between
> our ears and lightening our load... such a relief!  
>
> here's another:  
> http://youtu.be/jJzqygpyO7Q
>
> this has saved my life.  i was going down fast
> and this lightened me and allowed me to think
> differently.  my thoughts had been poisoning
> me.  
>
> love, patricia
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:
>
> > Thanks. That's interesting :-) .
> > I am so angry. I was a teenager when they started to put me full
> > of anti-biotics. At the end my hair was fallen out. Fortunately, I found
> > at the end help, but it is still  not over. If you say something, then you are
> > a kind of trouble maker.
> >
> > Stefanie
>


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Auntie Patricia
true, mercury... in some ways.  

the body is a communication device and it
is a graphic indicator of our state of mind.
when it is not relaxed and at ease, then
we do not breathe fully, freely and deeply...
and the stress gets stuck in the body,
manifesting as physical symptoms.

it is not an easy task to let go of the stress
while we are under duress, true.  so it
behooves us to rest in a safe place.  and
when we are able to reflect, to then let go
of all the internal stressors that might linger
even tho we are out of immediate danger.
we humans carry fear with us while animals
will lay down, rest, and get back to peace.  

i guess the bottom line is to see ourselves
apart from our thoughts...  they are like
the radio programs that are constantly
in the air, but we don't have to tune in and
we don't have to take them home with us,
as if they ARE us.  :)   they are also like
the software that runs our computers - we
cannot see them, but they are there and
we can turn our inner computer off and
give it time to sort itself out...  such as...

"Do I have to hold on to this thought?  No?  
Then i can let it go now and breathe again."

problem is, the body stores the tension
from unhappy thoughts.  and that makes
disease, illnesses of every description.  
actually, this is a very good site... takek this
and generalize it to other diseases as well
(louise hay has a little book "Heal Your Body"
that offers some ideas of thoughts that go
with certain diseases... i have seen people
clear a thought and the physical symptom
also releases - i am a hypnotherapist who
DEhypnotizes people from 'fear' (aka
anything that is less than love/peace).  

so if we can let go of the old, then we travel
lighter.  we become dis-ease/stress/tension-
free, and we can breathe again.  

hoping/praying that negative thoughts will
pass is one thing... and maybe similar to
letting them go, but we can also, in a very
conscious way, let go of them.  this is a
sign i keep on my desk to remind me that
i am not a 'victim' of my thoughts:  

"Until you make the unconscious conscious,
it will direct your life and you will call it fate."

when i become conscious of the unconscious
thoughts i carry, it no longer directs my life
and i am free.

to consciously distance ourselves from old
programming is a very powerful thing.  
EFT - emotional freedom technique - is a
very good tool to use to let go of old stuff.  
also, see the other tools on my website -
http://mind.patriciarobinett.com/tools/ -
everything is free and well-tested.  :)  

love, patricia


On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Mercury wrote:

> keep in mind sometimes our bodies are so polluted we cannot help but have these negative thoughts..so keep this in mind as best you can..
>
> it is not you, it is not how we were created,
> we are in pain our bodies hurt
> our mind is overran with thoughts not even ours because of these toxins in our brain and gut (which are often one and the same)
>
> i went through a lot of emotional issues when detoxing and still do, anger, regret, sadness, sense of loss, abandonement by friends and family. These are normal feelings and we have to as best we can grieve with them-the feelings and hope/pray that they too shall pass
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Auntie Patricia <auntiepatricia@...> wrote:
>>
>> stefanie, i hope you will try kefir.  
>> it has helped me a lot.
>> you can make it from milk (i use goat milk)
>> or from water and add fruit for flavor.
>>
>> also, our bodies reflect our thoughts.
>> i have made some videos that help
>> release old angst.  here's one...
>> http://youtu.be/cPvNSoyW4Pg
>>
>> clearing our minds of fear, anger, sorrow,
>> regret, guilt, etc... is imperative for health.
>> our thoughts can stress us out, all by themselves...
>> and we carry them with us, wherever we go...
>> until and unless we consciously let them go.
>> when i first discovered this fact, i sat on
>> my sofa all day long, releasing the past...
>> it helped significantly.  i had less burden
>> to carry around on my shoulders.  it's a bit like
>> spring cleaning of the clutter between
>> our ears and lightening our load... such a relief!  
>>
>> here's another:  
>> http://youtu.be/jJzqygpyO7Q
>>
>> this has saved my life.  i was going down fast
>> and this lightened me and allowed me to think
>> differently.  my thoughts had been poisoning
>> me.  
>>
>> love, patricia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. That's interesting :-) .
>>> I am so angry. I was a teenager when they started to put me full
>>> of anti-biotics. At the end my hair was fallen out. Fortunately, I found
>>> at the end help, but it is still  not over. If you say something, then you are
>>> a kind of trouble maker.
>>>
>>> Stefanie
>>
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