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Auntie Patricia
what a wonderful story, lizzie!!!!!  
how inspiring!  
it's wonderful to hear your success story and
theory that there are many variations of ES
i think we can all work our way out of it.
i love to hear of mamas loving their daughters...  
fills my heart and makes it fly.  :)


On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Elizabeth thode wrote:

> Stefanie,
> My opinon is that ES is a multi layered condition.
> It is a combination of: nutritional deficiences,
> toxic overload and emf exposure (which fits under toxic over load).
> So the assumptions or statements being made, that there is no cure,
> is, in my opinion false.
> My daughter, a teen, was severely ES....it took me two years of usingvarious protocols, nutritional, mineral, detox, shielding, a bed sheet groundingsystem which does NOT plug into outlets, fixing house wiring, eliminating allwireless, using high quality supplements, supporting both thyroid and adrenalglands big time important, addressing any systemic infections, eliminatingwheat/corn/ some dairy....all foods organic..raw veggies,,,balancing the body's PH levels, correcting Reverse Polarity, using Reflexology to openblocked electrical pathways, going to great depths to filter the water,researching all foods/supplements to make sure I wasn't ADDING anyadditional toxins to her system.  I think of ES as layers upon layers of health issues that have been previouslygone un recognized. All of these layers have to be addressed. My daughter has gone from a ten being severe to a one.I'm just using the scale of ten to one, to describe her severity, andwhere she is now. As there are few
>  protocals for children, I had to proceed very slowly, often using trial and error, and process of elimination as my guide. All treatments I used are natural, no prescriptions. Essential oilswere vastly helpful in my protocal, as is: Iodine, Magnesium Chloride OIl,and other supplements as well as herbs and high quality anti oxidants, and Omega 3's, for her, in the form of the cleanest Salmon/Tuna I could find. which are checked for purity.  Blessings, Lizzie
>
>
> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:49:25 +0200
> Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.
>
>      And my 25pointsplan does wonders also.
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Charles Claessens
>
> member Verband Baubiologie
>
> www.milieuziektes.nl
>
> www.milieuziektes.be
>
> www.hetbitje.nl
>
> checked by Emsisoft
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>  From: Marc Martin
>
>  To: [hidden email]
>
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM
>
>  Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.
>
>
>
> On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.
>
>> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while
>
>> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.
>
>> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.
>
>
>
> Really?
>
>
>
> I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves
>
>  of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is
>
>  just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.
>
>
>
> My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more
>
>  mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to
>
>  eliminate.
>
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: This is interesting.

Stefanie Toth
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Hi Marc,

So you think electro sensible peole are mainly poisoned with certain
metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about it. There are certain
therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.

Stefanie


--- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:

Von: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 22:46 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
      On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:

> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.

> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while

> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.

> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.



Really?



I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves

of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is

just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.



My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more

mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to

eliminate.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 





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AW: What Shields Very Well -- Re: [eSens] Re: This is interesting.

Stefanie Toth
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I noticed already, for example trees. They absorb water and water is shielding.
So trees are a very good way of natural shielding.

Stefanie


--- Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:

Von: Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]>
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Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 11:54 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
      What I know can shield very well is organic matter: earth, flora and

fauna (which includes our body!). They don't reflect. They

absorb--very, very well.



Now, see how you can apply that in your own situations.



marcmartin2 wrote thus at 10:04 PM 23-10-12:

>--- In [hidden email], "ruki1996" <ruki1996@...> wrote:

> > "The Shield"

> > http://whywedonotheal.com/products-2/

>

>Indeed!  As it claims to absorb EMF (not reflect it), and

>doesn't require grounding...

>

>Marc





   
     

   
   






 





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Stefanie Toth
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I hope, but it makes pretty sense. I am glad I found the forum. Last 4 years were hell. I sleep since one year in a car. Now the hard work starts. Not easy to stick to such a diet?

Thanks Lizzie, Stefanie


--- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> schrieb am Do, 25.10.2012:

Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Datum: Donnerstag, 25. Oktober, 2012 07:32 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
     



Stefanie,

My opinon is that ES is a multi layered condition.

It is a combination of: nutritional deficiences,

toxic overload and emf exposure (which fits under toxic over load).

So the assumptions or statements being made, that there is no cure,

is, in my opinion false.

My daughter, a teen, was severely ES....it took me two years of usingvarious protocols, nutritional, mineral, detox, shielding, a bed sheet groundingsystem which does NOT plug into outlets, fixing house wiring, eliminating allwireless, using high quality supplements, supporting both thyroid and adrenalglands big time important, addressing any systemic infections, eliminatingwheat/corn/ some dairy....all foods organic..raw veggies,,,balancing the body's PH levels, correcting Reverse Polarity, using Reflexology to openblocked electrical pathways, going to great depths to filter the water,researching all foods/supplements to make sure I wasn't ADDING anyadditional toxins to her system.  I think of ES as layers upon layers of health issues that have been previouslygone un recognized. All of these layers have to be addressed. My daughter has gone from a ten being severe to a one.I'm just using the scale of ten to one, to describe her severity, andwhere she is
 now. As there are few protocals for children, I had to proceed very slowly, often using trial and error, and process of elimination as my guide. All treatments I used are natural, no prescriptions. Essential oilswere vastly helpful in my protocal, as is: Iodine, Magnesium Chloride OIl,and other supplements as well as herbs and high quality anti oxidants, and Omega 3's, for her, in the form of the cleanest Salmon/Tuna I could find. which are checked for purity.  Blessings, Lizzie



To: [hidden email]

From: [hidden email]

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:49:25 +0200

Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.



And my 25pointsplan does wonders also.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes.nl



www.milieuziektes.be



www.hetbitje.nl



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From: Marc Martin



To: [hidden email]



Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.



On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:



> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.



> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while



> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.



> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.



Really?



I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves



of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is



just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.



My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more



mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to



eliminate.



Marc



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Re: This is interesting.

Marc Martin
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--- In [hidden email], Stefanie Toth <stefaniet2@...> wrote:
> So you think electro sensible people are mainly poisoned with
> certain metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about
> it. There are certain therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.

In general, the people who recover from ES are those who treat their condition as heavy-metal poisoning -- typically mercury.  To deal with this, you first need to eliminate your current exposures to mercury -- get any silver dental fillings removed, stop eating fish or sushi that is high in mercury, etc.   Then you there are various ways to remove heavy metals from your body -- taking supplements that remove metals (e.g. alpha lipoic acid), saunas, ionic footbaths, etc.  

At the same time, people with high amounts of metals in them generally have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, fungus, and viruses.  And the process of removing heavy metals can make these things worse before they get better, so you may also need eat foods or take supplements that are anti-bacterial/fungal/viral.

There are of course other toxic exposures other than metals that can contribute (chemicals, etc.), and of course a lot of people don't get good nutrition because of junk foods, etc., so improving nutrition is also something that might help.

Marc

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Auntie Patricia
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stefanie,
try this:
http://www.electricsense.com/



On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:52 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> So you think electro sensible peole are mainly poisoned with certain
> metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about it. There are certain
> therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.
>
> Stefanie
>
>
> --- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:
>
> Von: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Betreff: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.
> An: [hidden email]
> Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 22:46 Uhr
>
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>  
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>      On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.
>
>> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while
>
>> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.
>
>> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.
>
>
>
> Really?
>
>
>
> I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves
>
> of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is
>
> just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.
>
>
>
> My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more
>
> mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to
>
> eliminate.
>
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: This is interesting

Marc Martin
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On October 25, Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]> wrote:
> stefanie,
> try this:
> http://www.electricsense.com/

You might also want to read the information on this website:

  http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/

Marc
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Re: This is interesting

Auntie Patricia
GREAT RESOURCE, MARC.
i've been exploring it for hours.
THANK YOU!  
am hot on the trail of some herbs...
wish i could afford a pendant.  
love, patricia


On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

> On October 25, Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> stefanie,
>> try this:
>> http://www.electricsense.com/
>
> You might also want to read the information on this website:
>
>  http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: This is interesting.

Elizabeth thode
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Stefanie,The information is telling us, that heavy metals in the bodyact as antennas for emfs.  Also any metals worn on the outside of the body, like jewelry, piercings, zippers, metal eye glasses. Those with silver fillings, crowns in their mouth, those who get flushots, all are included in this category.Lizzie
 To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:49 +0100
Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Marc,



So you think electro sensible peole are mainly poisoned with certain

metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about it. There are certain

therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.



Stefanie



--- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:



Von: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>

Betreff: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.

An: [hidden email]

Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 22:46 Uhr



 



On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:



> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.



> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while



> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.



> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.



Really?



I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves



of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is



just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.



My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more



mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to



eliminate.



Marc



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Kumara
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Exactly. That's why people don't get good wireless receptions in the
woods. If thick foliage is overhead, even GPS wouldn't work as
radiation from the satellites can't penetrate.

So, a good way to block radiation from neighbours is having hedges.

Stefanie Toth wrote thus at 05:55 PM 25-10-12:
>I noticed already, for example trees. They absorb water and water is
>shielding.
>So trees are a very good way of natural shielding.
>
>Stefanie

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RE: This is interesting

Elizabeth thode
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Well,
this is certainly interestng.

Especially
since I posted about the "geostress" or geopathic stress

a
few months ago....and here we see, it comes UP again.

 
For
those of you who are interested in reading some clear information

regarding
geostress, or what I call: geopathic stress,

see:

Geopathic Stress - Land & Spirit
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


www.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html

 

Blessings,

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
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      On October 25, Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]> wrote:

> stefanie,

> try this:

> http://www.electricsense.com/



You might also want to read the information on this website:



http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Stefanie Toth
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Hi Lizzie,

That makes sense, but why flushots? How is that related. I once did one because of this
crazy swine flu panic. After, I became very sick. Could that be the reason I became electro sensitive?

Stefanie


--- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 26.10.2012:

Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Betreff: RE: [eSens] This is interesting.
An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Datum: Freitag, 26. Oktober, 2012 02:55 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
     

Stefanie,The information is telling us, that heavy metals in the bodyact as antennas for emfs.  Also any metals worn on the outside of the body, like jewelry, piercings, zippers, metal eye glasses. Those with silver fillings, crowns in their mouth, those who get flushots, all are included in this category.Lizzie

 To: [hidden email]

From: [hidden email]

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:49 +0100

Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.



Hi Marc,



So you think electro sensible peole are mainly poisoned with certain



metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about it. There are certain



therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.



Stefanie



--- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:



Von: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>



Betreff: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.



An: [hidden email]



Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 22:46 Uhr



On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:



> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.



> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while



> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.



> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.



Really?



I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves



of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is



just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.



My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more



mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to



eliminate.



Marc



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Stefanie Toth
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Sushi. That is hard. Everything what I loved in my life.
Actually, I am thinking I should become a vegetarian.
Some doctors already said to me I should not eat meat too
much.

I removed already all mercury crones and made also
a drainage (cleaining) to get all out of my body.
Since my childhood I have cronical infections. Unfortunately,
I took many years antibotics. That was not helping my body.
I was totally poisoned for over 20 years. Then I started
many therapies, such as detoxing and my body got stablized.
I don't need to take antibotics anymore.

Then, 4 years ago I noticed that I am electro sensitive.
I put the power off and my infections reduce by themselve.
That was a revolution for me. Since then I try to find
an electro free zone to live and especially for sleeping.

Paralllel, I will now also think how I can continue to detox
my body.  Maybe then finally also the electro sensibility will
disappear, which was possible the source of all my problems
at first  place. This had been then over 40 years suffering,
searching, and treatment..

Thank you for all your suggestions and support,
Stefanie




--- marcmartin2 <[hidden email]> schrieb am Do, 25.10.2012:

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      --- In [hidden email], Stefanie Toth <stefaniet2@...> wrote:

> So you think electro sensible people are mainly poisoned with

> certain metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about

> it. There are certain therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.



In general, the people who recover from ES are those who treat their condition as heavy-metal poisoning -- typically mercury.  To deal with this, you first need to eliminate your current exposures to mercury -- get any silver dental fillings removed, stop eating fish or sushi that is high in mercury, etc.   Then you there are various ways to remove heavy metals from your body -- taking supplements that remove metals (e.g. alpha lipoic acid), saunas, ionic footbaths, etc.  



At the same time, people with high amounts of metals in them generally have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, fungus, and viruses.  And the process of removing heavy metals can make these things worse before they get better, so you may also need eat foods or take supplements that are anti-bacterial/fungal/viral.



There are of course other toxic exposures other than metals that can contribute (chemicals, etc.), and of course a lot of people don't get good nutrition because of junk foods, etc., so improving nutrition is also something that might help.



Marc





   
     

   
   






 





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Marc Martin
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On October 26, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That makes sense, but why flushots? How is that related.

Flu shots contain mercury -- that is how it is related.

Marc
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Elizabeth thode
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Flu
shots contain 25 mgs of mercury.

All
toxins are accumulative. This means they add up over time.

 

And
what happens is, the body reaches a tipping point, where it

reaches
its limit, goes past the point of what it can handle.

 

Remember
I said earlier that my working theory is that ES is a

Combination
of: Nutritional deficiencies, and Toxic Overload.

It
doesn’t matter which of the above comes first, because one opens the

door
to the other.

 

Flu
shots contain 25 mgs of mercury.

Mercury
competes for Iodine in the body. This means if the levels of Iodine are not

adequate,
mercury fills the spot where the Iodine should have been. The thyroid, a major
player in the body’s immune system, needs Iodine. And any factor that effects
the Immune system

weakens
the body’s ability to handle any toxins.

Warning: Your Flu Shot Contains a Dangerous Neurotoxin

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


articles.mercola.com/.../flu-vaccination-epa-safety-limit-for-...

 

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:42:39 +0100
Subject: RE: [eSens] This is interesting.
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Lizzie,



That makes sense, but why flushots? How is that related. I once did one because of this

crazy swine flu panic. After, I became very sick. Could that be the reason I became electro sensitive?



Stefanie



--- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 26.10.2012:



Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

Betreff: RE: [eSens] This is interesting.

An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>

Datum: Freitag, 26. Oktober, 2012 02:55 Uhr



 



Stefanie,The information is telling us, that heavy metals in the bodyact as antennas for emfs.  Also any metals worn on the outside of the body, like jewelry, piercings, zippers, metal eye glasses. Those with silver fillings, crowns in their mouth, those who get flushots, all are included in this category.Lizzie



To: [hidden email]



From: [hidden email]



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:49 +0100



Subject: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.



Hi Marc,



So you think electro sensible peole are mainly poisoned with certain



metals, and what so ever? How can I find more out about it. There are certain



therapies? You did a certain diet, and so.



Stefanie



--- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mi, 24.10.2012:



Von: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>



Betreff: Re: [eSens] This is interesting.



An: [hidden email]



Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Oktober, 2012 22:46 Uhr



On October 24, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:



> One scientist said, there is nothing at the moment that can heal electro sensible people.



> All research is just at the beginning. The only thing what you can do, is to stay a while



> out of all electro magnetic fields and then to say how your body reacts, maybe heals again.



> Based on my own experiences, this statment was mostly right.



Really?



I've come across many people who have been able to cure themselves



of their own ES.   People claiming that nothing can be done and that research is



just at the beginning are ignorant of these people's experiences.



My ES is "mostly gone" these days, although I'm aware that I have more



mercury detox to do, and probably more low-level chronic infections to



eliminate.



Marc



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Re: This is interesting.

Marc Martin
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On October 26, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Flu shots contain 25 mgs of mercury.

That should probably say 25mcg, not 25mg.  I'd think that
25mg of mercury would kill you immediately.

Marc
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RE: AW: [eSens] Re: This is interesting.

Elizabeth thode
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Marc wrote:  At the same time, people with high amounts of metals in them generally have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, fungus, and viruses.  And the process of removing heavy metals can make these things worse before they get better, so you may also need eat foods or take supplements that are anti-bacterial/fungal/viral.


Long term use of anti biotics destroys the balance of gut health. I have taken Probiotics for many years as part of our health protocol.

See:

Antibiotics Treatment May Be a Main Cause of
Obesity - Mercola

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/.../antibiotics-promote-obesity.aspx

Probiotics are Essential to a Healthy Gut
Flora - Mercola

articles.mercola.com/.../one-of-the-most-important-steps-yo

Causes and Natural Remedies for Yeast
Infections - Mercola

articles.mercola.com/.../natural-remedies-for-yeast-infections.aspx

Probiotics | Complete Probiotics
Supplements - Mercola.com

probiotics.mercola.com/probiotics.html

Lizzie

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Re: This is interesting.

Auntie Patricia
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"What's really in vaccines? Proof of MSG, formaldehyde, aluminum and mercury"

metals, yes...
bad chemicals, yes...
PLUS other awful things that should never
go into the bloodstream of any human or animal.

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_additives_thimerosal_formaldehyde.html

vaccines are modern voodoo... wishful thinking...
NOT based on factual evidence.  but heck! -
they're PROFITABLE - what more does a company
need, to be able to push big bucks into the public
relations industry to sell the things - and to get
them passed through the FDA, congress, etc?

BEWARE the MODERN MEDICINE MAN.

:)  love, patricia



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RE: This is interesting.

Elizabeth thode
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True, but 25 micro grams of mercury is still a huge amt,when you factor in all the other toxins in the body. Lizzie
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      On October 26, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Flu shots contain 25 mgs of mercury.



That should probably say 25mcg, not 25mg.  I'd think that

25mg of mercury would kill you immediately.



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Auntie Patricia
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stefanie, a lot of people are using kefir
to restore their 'good bacteria' after using
anti-biotics... see "good_kefir_grains' -
another yahoo list.  milk kefir and water kefir.  
patricia


On Oct 26, 2012, at 6:01 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:

> Sushi. That is hard. Everything what I loved in my life.
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> Since my childhood I have cronical infections. Unfortunately,
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> I was totally poisoned for over 20 years. Then I started
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