Thanks for info on shielding...

Many thanks Charles and Paul for very good info. I will certainly look into
the blankets. Charles I was wondering if you could reccommend a good
European website that can ship Swiss Shield fabric, and I will use it on the
wall/windows rather than as a canopy. I can compare prices with Powerwatch
myself. I'm just looking for reliable alternative websites in the EU.

Best Wishes
Rachel (UK)

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Hello Rachel,

I do a lot of business with www.priggen.com
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Ps, I think that Swiss Shield is all right for windows, but too expensive
for walls.
The best thing for walls is this black paint, but don't forget the grounding
strips and plate.
They have to be placed first, and then with the roller brushed over.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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Thanks Charles for the website link and further info on wall shielding. It's
much appreciated :-) I will look into everything you have recommended.

Rachel (UK)

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--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
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> The best thing for walls is this black paint, but don't forget the
grounding
> strips and plate.


I've been using a special paper to shield. (it shields the phone mast
signal like dividing by ten the signal). But i've been told there
might be an electrical signal induced (like for the canopy), therefore
have to ground the paper.

So here is my question : how do I ground a paper material. I've
already added copper wire taped directly at the bottom of the paper,
but I'm afraid it's not enough electrical contact with the paper to
evacuate the electricity.


jean.

Hello Jean,

what special paper are you referring to?

If you are using the special wallpaper from Marburg, no grounding is needed.
However, its shielding factor is not great.

Grounding of shielding materials is necessary, when the material is
electro-conductive.
The aforementioned black paint is electro-conductive, but most other
materials are not.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "jean" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 14:08
Subject: [eSens] Re: Thanks for info on shielding...

I emailed you more explanation. It's divide between by 5 to 10 for
signal reduction (that is already interesting). It's carbon based.  
So no idea if it's electro conductive, I don't think there's any
metal in it. Best thing maybe would be to ask the producer. I still
know very little about the topic. It took me three months to decide
to wire the sheet of paper to the ground.

jean.




--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jean,
>
> what special paper are you referring to?
>
> If you are using the special wallpaper from Marburg, no grounding
is needed.
> However, its shielding factor is not great.
>
> Grounding of shielding materials is necessary, when the material is
> electro-conductive.
> The aforementioned black paint is electro-conductive, but most
other the
> > grounding
> >> strips and plate.
> >
> >
> > I've been using a special paper to shield. (it shields the phone
mast
> > signal like dividing by ten the signal). But i've been told there
> > might be an electrical signal induced (like for the canopy),
therefore
> > have to ground the paper.
> >
> > So here is my question : how do I ground a paper material. I've
> > already added copper wire taped directly at the bottom of the
paper,
> > but I'm afraid it's not enough electrical contact with the paper
to

Just a reminder about grounding shielding materials, or anything. If
you have "dirty" electricity in your building and/or on the ground (terra
firma) outside it, grounding can open up new circuits for that to travel on, from
which it broadcasts harmful frequencies into your living space.
This is a crucial issue that many ES folks are not yet aware of.
People still tend to think that the ground (terra firma) is safe to ground to,
wheras in many areas it is dangerous to ground to because of this very issue.
Regards,
Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com


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On the topic of sheilding - We have a 3G mast approx 1000mtrs away accross
feilds from us, I found that on a portion of my double glazed window to the
bedroom there was a signal picked up by esmog detctor so I decided to buy some
shielding. I found from the moment that I covered my bedroom window with
highperformance silvermesh material from Lessemf that I could sense a disturbing
Efeild, I tried to earth this away but did not show an improvement, I decided
not to earth as per similar thinking to Shivani I occurred to me that
especially earthing through your mains wiring you may be getting more than you
bargained for, at any time of the day/night earthing efficiency might vary I
suppose, so you might find earthing ok in afternoon but late evening it may
well emit rather than drain, if you see what I am saying. The mesh has
recently fallen off window so I left it off for a while, now here is the interesting
bit - I am sure that I feel that kinda "roman legion marching thorgh my head
feeling" more at night and reach for the headnet (incidently doubled wrapped
in a pillow case to avoid direct contact with my scalp) but strangely I feel
less drowsy when I awake ??!!
The sheilding issue is not as simple as companies make out, can introduce
additional problems me thinks definitely requires expert set-up with expert
measuring equip, after all I suppose the you could turn your room into a faradic
cage with a small gap leading to a microwave oven effect and then onto the
faraday effect where you quite nicely absorb what enters the room. Bit like
putting a grumpy horse into a room where it can get out, youre gonna get
kicked sooner or later. !

still kicking - Regards Paul


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Is there a way to tell if the grounding is contaminated?
If I have a body voltage meter and it registers 1 volt while I am in
bed and then when I touch the ground cord and it goes to 0, the current
is flowing toward Earth, right?
Is there a way to tell if I am getting bad earth currents up the cord
if it is already reading 0 on the body voltage meter?
thanks,
Andrew
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