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Tesla's products

johnottawa80
Hi all,
I'm new here. Just wondering whether anybody has tried the products
from www.teslas.us. Elaine Hollingsworth (in her book 'Take control of
your health and escape the sickness industry') claims that many people
(including those at the Hippocrates Health Centre, which Elain
runs/ran) have reported amazing improvements in health and wellbeing
after having these products installed.

Thanks,
John Ottawa.

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Re: Tesla's products

Marc Martin
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I haven't tried these particular devices, but I can confirm that these
sorts of devices can indeed make life far more pleasant and a person
healthier. The problem I've found is that very few of those advertised
live up to their claims, at least in my own case. I've tried more
of these devices than I care to remember, and my success rate is
quite low -- I'd say that one in ten is helpful, and after trying
dozens of items, there are only a few brands of items that I
continue to use. But the ones I do use are indeed quite helpful
for my ES.

Marc

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:21:09 -0000, "johnottawa80" <[hidden email]> said:

> Hi all,
> I'm new here. Just wondering whether anybody has tried the products
> from www.teslas.us. Elaine Hollingsworth (in her book 'Take control of
> your health and escape the sickness industry') claims that many people
> (including those at the Hippocrates Health Centre, which Elain
> runs/ran) have reported amazing improvements in health and wellbeing
> after having these products installed.
>
> Thanks,
> John Ottawa.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Re: Tesla's products

johnottawa80
Hi Marc,
and thanks for your reply.
Yes, I know there are LOTS of such devices around, and that most of
them don't live up to their claims, as you write.
However, I find Elaine Hollingsworth kind of trustworthy (she has a
website at www.doctorsaredangerous.com), so I thought maybe these
devices that she recommends would be worth a try.(I don't think
she's involved with the company)
If somebody on this list had tried them with success, I would
CONSIDER trying the products myself.

John.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't tried these particular devices, but I can confirm that
these
> sorts of devices can indeed make life far more pleasant and a
person
> healthier. The problem I've found is that very few of those
advertised

> live up to their claims, at least in my own case. I've tried more
> of these devices than I care to remember, and my success rate is
> quite low -- I'd say that one in ten is helpful, and after trying
> dozens of items, there are only a few brands of items that I
> continue to use. But the ones I do use are indeed quite helpful
> for my ES.
>
> Marc
>
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:21:09 -0000, "johnottawa80"
<johnottawa80@...> said:
> > Hi all,
> > I'm new here. Just wondering whether anybody has tried the
products
> > from www.teslas.us. Elaine Hollingsworth (in her book 'Take
control of
> > your health and escape the sickness industry') claims that many
people
> > (including those at the Hippocrates Health Centre, which Elain
> > runs/ran) have reported amazing improvements in health and
wellbeing

> > after having these products installed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John Ottawa.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: Tesla's products

helen
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Hi John,

I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished to as far
away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy and keep me
awake at night.

Helen

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:21 AM, johnottawa80 <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm new here. Just wondering whether anybody has tried the products
> from www.teslas.us. Elaine Hollingsworth (in her book 'Take control of
> your health and escape the sickness industry') claims that many people
> (including those at the Hippocrates Health Centre, which Elain
> runs/ran) have reported amazing improvements in health and wellbeing
> after having these products installed.
>
> Thanks,
> John Ottawa.
>
>
>



--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


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Marc Martin
Administrator
> I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished to as
> far away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy and keep
> me awake at night.

Yes, some EMF devices can do that. I've had such a bad reaction to some
devices that I had to drive to a local park and put them in the trash
there, because I simply could not stand to have them anywhere near my
house.

Marc

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Steph Smith
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Hi Helen
 
That's interesting if only because I looked at that site when I saw it on the post and am ashamed to admit that I dismissed the products as a load of rubbish - my innate scepticism kicked in right away and I though "how coulda disc or a plate with a nice pattern on it have any effect?" so I am interested to see that it had some effect although it is a pity that it was a negative one - and wonder if this is what a plate would do how tolerable could it be to wear a disc near your solar plexus?
 
Take care
 
Steph

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Tesla's products
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:44 AM






Hi John,

I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished to as far
away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy and keep me
awake at night.

Helen

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:21 AM, johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@ yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm new here. Just wondering whether anybody has tried the products
> from www.teslas.us. Elaine Hollingsworth (in her book 'Take control of
> your health and escape the sickness industry') claims that many people
> (including those at the Hippocrates Health Centre, which Elain
> runs/ran) have reported amazing improvements in health and wellbeing
> after having these products installed.
>
> Thanks,
> John Ottawa.
>
>
>

--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics. com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217

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johnottawa80
In reply to this post by helen
Hi Helen,
thanks for letting me know.
This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
devices to try out.
Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
Have you tried any other protection devices?
If so: How did you react to them?

John.


> Hi John,
>
> I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
to as far
> away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
and keep me
> awake at night.
>
> Helen

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helen
Hi John,

My system would be the last to be out of balance except for my home EMF
issues.
I am vegetarian, eat only organic food and Grander water, don't drink, don't
smoke. I have no mercury fillings, gone years ago. I have done many Arise
and Shine cleanses, so I am on quite a healthy lifestyle.
When I began getting ill, I knew it was not my diet and eventually found the
cause to be the powerlines close by. I am still in the same house, but I can
tolerate a lot more. I sleep on a grounding sheet and have stetzer filters
in many outlets. I also use one of Vinny Pinto's coherent space devices.
(sold for experimental use only) I practice not thinking about the
powerlines or living in fear of them and I now manage quite well.

Cheers,
Helen

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM, johnottawa80 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Helen,
> thanks for letting me know.
> This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
> devices to try out.
> Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
> reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
> of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
> Have you tried any other protection devices?
> If so: How did you react to them?
>
> John.
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
> to as far
> > away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
> and keep me
> > awake at night.
> >
> > Helen
>
>
>



--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


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Steph Smith
Hi Helen
 
Can I ask you which coherent space device you are using and how long you have been using it for ? do you think this is helping you with the powerlinesproblem?
 
best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Sat, 8/11/08, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 8:40 AM






Hi John,

My system would be the last to be out of balance except for my home EMF
issues.
I am vegetarian, eat only organic food and Grander water, don't drink, don't
smoke. I have no mercury fillings, gone years ago. I have done many Arise
and Shine cleanses, so I am on quite a healthy lifestyle.
When I began getting ill, I knew it was not my diet and eventually found the
cause to be the powerlines close by. I am still in the same house, but I can
tolerate a lot more. I sleep on a grounding sheet and have stetzer filters
in many outlets. I also use one of Vinny Pinto's coherent space devices.
(sold for experimental use only) I practice not thinking about the
powerlines or living in fear of them and I now manage quite well.

Cheers,
Helen

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM, johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Helen,
> thanks for letting me know.
> This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
> devices to try out.
> Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
> reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
> of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
> Have you tried any other protection devices?
> If so: How did you react to them?
>
> John.
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
> to as far
> > away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
> and keep me
> > awake at night.
> >
> > Helen
>
>
>

--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics. com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217

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Red blotches and stinging/burning

laurel canyon
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I have EMF sensitivity and I was in front of the computer today for.. what was probably too long. I felt myself starting to sting and burn. By the time I got off and looked in the mirror, my entire chest area was so red it was almost purplish.. but also, this same burning  and red blotches is on my upper back side and upper arms and partly down my stomach area.
 
Has anyone had this happen to them? I did use a product also today..MMS, but I have used it before without this happening. I did rub it in those areas.. but also all over my body.. so I am not sure what is happening or why. It seems to maybe be the monitor(LCD), but I am not sure.




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Re: Tesla's products

helen
In reply to this post by Steph Smith
Hi Steph,

I am using the Auto-21 model and have had it for nearly 2 years. It
certainly brought my memory back and coherency of thinking functions. That
is, not so scrambled anymore. I used to need to sleep with it under my
pillow to get a good sleep, but now my dog sleeps with it. (She also suffers
from ES effects). Where I sleep now (after renovations) is around 2Mg not
12Mg as to the room I was previously in. When I do put it back under my
pillow, I always notice the difference!

Cheers,
Helen

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Helen
>
> Can I ask you which coherent space device you are using and how long you
> have been using it for ? do you think this is helping you with the
> powerlines problem?
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
> --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]<helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 8:40 AM
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> My system would be the last to be out of balance except for my home EMF
> issues.
> I am vegetarian, eat only organic food and Grander water, don't drink,
> don't
> smoke. I have no mercury fillings, gone years ago. I have done many Arise
> and Shine cleanses, so I am on quite a healthy lifestyle.
> When I began getting ill, I knew it was not my diet and eventually found
> the
> cause to be the powerlines close by. I am still in the same house, but I
> can
> tolerate a lot more. I sleep on a grounding sheet and have stetzer filters
> in many outlets. I also use one of Vinny Pinto's coherent space devices.
> (sold for experimental use only) I practice not thinking about the
> powerlines or living in fear of them and I now manage quite well.
>
> Cheers,
> Helen
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM, johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@ yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Helen,
> > thanks for letting me know.
> > This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
> > devices to try out.
> > Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
> > reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
> > of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
> > Have you tried any other protection devices?
> > If so: How did you react to them?
> >
> > John.
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
> > to as far
> > > away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
> > and keep me
> > > awake at night.
> > >
> > > Helen
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


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Re: Tesla's products

betty A
Helen , could you provide the link for that please.
 
thanks
Ada



"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Sun, 9/11/08, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 10:23 PM






Hi Steph,

I am using the Auto-21 model and have had it for nearly 2 years. It
certainly brought my memory back and coherency of thinking functions. That
is, not so scrambled anymore. I used to need to sleep with it under my
pillow to get a good sleep, but now my dog sleeps with it. (She also suffers
from ES effects). Where I sleep now (after renovations) is around 2Mg not
12Mg as to the room I was previously in. When I do put it back under my
pillow, I always notice the difference!

Cheers,
Helen

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

> Hi Helen
>
> Can I ask you which coherent space device you are using and how long you
> have been using it for ? do you think this is helping you with the
> powerlines problem?
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
> --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com<helenmurphybb% 40gmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com <helenmurphybb% 40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 8:40 AM
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> My system would be the last to be out of balance except for my home EMF
> issues.
> I am vegetarian, eat only organic food and Grander water, don't drink,
> don't
> smoke. I have no mercury fillings, gone years ago. I have done many Arise
> and Shine cleanses, so I am on quite a healthy lifestyle.
> When I began getting ill, I knew it was not my diet and eventually found
> the
> cause to be the powerlines close by. I am still in the same house, but I
> can
> tolerate a lot more. I sleep on a grounding sheet and have stetzer filters
> in many outlets. I also use one of Vinny Pinto's coherent space devices.
> (sold for experimental use only) I practice not thinking about the
> powerlines or living in fear of them and I now manage quite well.
>
> Cheers,
> Helen
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM, johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@ yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Helen,
> > thanks for letting me know.
> > This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
> > devices to try out.
> > Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
> > reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
> > of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
> > Have you tried any other protection devices?
> > If so: How did you react to them?
> >
> > John.
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
> > to as far
> > > away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
> > and keep me
> > > awake at night.
> > >
> > > Helen
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics. com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217

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helen
Hi Ada,

There wasn't a link, I got it through one of Vinnys many list groups. He
does not sell commercially, but that does not mean it is not available.
Vinny was also a member of this group for some time too. Do a google search
of his name "Vinny Pinto" and I am sure you will find an access point
somewhere there.
Cheers, Helen

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, ada iye <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Helen , could you provide the link for that please.
>
> thanks
> Ada
>
> "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I
> have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
>
> unknown
>
> --- On Sun, 9/11/08, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]<helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 10:23 PM
>
> Hi Steph,
>
> I am using the Auto-21 model and have had it for nearly 2 years. It
> certainly brought my memory back and coherency of thinking functions. That
> is, not so scrambled anymore. I used to need to sleep with it under my
> pillow to get a good sleep, but now my dog sleeps with it. (She also
> suffers
> from ES effects). Where I sleep now (after renovations) is around 2Mg not
> 12Mg as to the room I was previously in. When I do put it back under my
> pillow, I always notice the difference!
>
> Cheers,
> Helen
>
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Helen
> >
> > Can I ask you which coherent space device you are using and how long you
> > have been using it for ? do you think this is helping you with the
> > powerlines problem?
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > Steph
> >
> > --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com<helenmurphybb%
> 40gmail.com> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com <helenmurphybb% 40gmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
>
> > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 8:40 AM
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > My system would be the last to be out of balance except for my home EMF
> > issues.
> > I am vegetarian, eat only organic food and Grander water, don't drink,
> > don't
> > smoke. I have no mercury fillings, gone years ago. I have done many Arise
> > and Shine cleanses, so I am on quite a healthy lifestyle.
> > When I began getting ill, I knew it was not my diet and eventually found
> > the
> > cause to be the powerlines close by. I am still in the same house, but I
> > can
> > tolerate a lot more. I sleep on a grounding sheet and have stetzer
> filters
> > in many outlets. I also use one of Vinny Pinto's coherent space devices.
> > (sold for experimental use only) I practice not thinking about the
> > powerlines or living in fear of them and I now manage quite well.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Helen
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM, johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@ yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Helen,
> > > thanks for letting me know.
> > > This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
> > > devices to try out.
> > > Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
> > > reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
> > > of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
> > > Have you tried any other protection devices?
> > > If so: How did you react to them?
> > >
> > > John.
> > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
> > > to as far
> > > > away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
> > > and keep me
> > > > awake at night.
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Helen A Murphy
> >
> > Environomics. com.au
> > 0448 877 384
> > 03 9372 3217
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


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Re: coherent space devices

Marc Martin
Administrator
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> I am using the Auto-21 model and have had it for nearly 2 years. It
> certainly brought my memory back and coherency of thinking functions.

When Vinny briefly joined this discussion group, he lent me a
Auto-21 model for a few months. It certainly did help, although
having it too close to me caused me some chest pains as I recall.
Although I certainly could have purchased this from him, I did not,
as it cost over $400 and did not seem to provide any additional
protection over the devices I already owned.

I generally don't recommend these devices because they are very
expensive and I don't think Vinny offers a money back guarantee.

I have thought about buying the cheapest and smallest device
he offers, the IND-14. But at US$325, it is not exactly an
impulse purchase... :-)

Here is a link: http://www.coherentspace.info/products.html

Marc

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Re: Red blotches and stinging/burning

Marc Martin
Administrator
In reply to this post by laurel canyon
> I have EMF sensitivity and I was in front of the computer today for..
> what was probably too long. I felt myself starting to sting and burn. By
> the time I got off and looked in the mirror, my entire chest area was so
> red it was almost purplish
>  
> Has anyone had this happen to them? I did use a product also today.

Certainly red skin and burning is a common symptom of EMF sensitivity.
When using the computer, I usually just get it on my face. I've found
that I can eliminate it using a combination of EMF protection devices,
supplements, and skin lotion -- or just staying away from the computer! :-)

Marc

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Re: Red blotches and stinging/burning

Loni Rosser
Happens to me also. Avoidance is best. Long term effects concern. Loni

--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Red blotches and stinging/burning
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Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:58 AM






> I have EMF sensitivity and I was in front of the computer today for..
> what was probably too long. I felt myself starting to sting and burn. By
> the time I got off and looked in the mirror, my entire chest area was so
> red it was almost purplish
>  
> Has anyone had this happen to them? I did use a product also today.

Certainly red skin and burning is a common symptom of EMF sensitivity.
When using the computer, I usually just get it on my face. I've found
that I can eliminate it using a combination of EMF protection devices,
supplements, and skin lotion -- or just staying away from the computer! :-)

Marc
 














     

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Re: Tesla's products

Steph Smith
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Hi Helen
 
Thanks for posting back on this - did you also say on a previous post that you had used Graham Stetzer filters as well? If so where did you position them for maximum benefit and how many did you need to use?
 
best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Sun, 9/11/08, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 11:23 AM






Hi Steph,

I am using the Auto-21 model and have had it for nearly 2 years. It
certainly brought my memory back and coherency of thinking functions. That
is, not so scrambled anymore. I used to need to sleep with it under my
pillow to get a good sleep, but now my dog sleeps with it. (She also suffers
from ES effects). Where I sleep now (after renovations) is around 2Mg not
12Mg as to the room I was previously in. When I do put it back under my
pillow, I always notice the difference!

Cheers,
Helen

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

> Hi Helen
>
> Can I ask you which coherent space device you are using and how long you
> have been using it for ? do you think this is helping you with the
> powerlines problem?
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
> --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com<helenmurphybb% 40gmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com <helenmurphybb% 40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Tesla's products
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 8:40 AM
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> My system would be the last to be out of balance except for my home EMF
> issues.
> I am vegetarian, eat only organic food and Grander water, don't drink,
> don't
> smoke. I have no mercury fillings, gone years ago. I have done many Arise
> and Shine cleanses, so I am on quite a healthy lifestyle.
> When I began getting ill, I knew it was not my diet and eventually found
> the
> cause to be the powerlines close by. I am still in the same house, but I
> can
> tolerate a lot more. I sleep on a grounding sheet and have stetzer filters
> in many outlets. I also use one of Vinny Pinto's coherent space devices.
> (sold for experimental use only) I practice not thinking about the
> powerlines or living in fear of them and I now manage quite well.
>
> Cheers,
> Helen
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM, johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@ yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Helen,
> > thanks for letting me know.
> > This product is now very low on my list of possible EMF-protection-
> > devices to try out.
> > Interesting to know that it did something though, even though your
> > reaction was very negative. This can mean that your system is so out
> > of balance that the device was way too powerful for you.
> > Have you tried any other protection devices?
> > If so: How did you react to them?
> >
> > John.
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > I could not sleep anywhere near the plate and it has been banished
> > to as far
> > > away as I can put it. It did nothing except make me feel uneasy
> > and keep me
> > > awake at night.
> > >
> > > Helen
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
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Mental impairment

Flavio
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Dear Helen,

I have also suffered from that mental impairment due to EMFs you talk
about. Since my teenage years. As the years passed by I began
realizing it was due to EMF. That was 5 years ago. I moved houses
like 20 times, I made my parents crazy about it. I have learned doing
earth cleansings, avoiding EMFs, even intent protections, home made
polarizers. I have tried a succor punch. All helped arriving to that
realization. I have been considering buying a Vinnys device since it
came along but I thought it was expensive at the time but I feel I
gotta get one.

Flavio