TEETH

Just lately at least 3 of my old plastic fillings plus 1 metal have fallen  
out, I am left with the dillema of wether to benefit from free traetment as
I am on unemployment allowance or pay private fees- heres the catch -
The free work will give me metal filling and the quote for non metal ie  
plastic composite fillings and porcelain caps amounts to £2000 ! Any advice
welcome, what about gold fillings etc...
 
help
 
Paul uk PUK


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You can't put a price on your health, go private but shop around first for a better deal!  Metal (mercury) fillings are a major suspect for beingthe cause of electrosensitivity.  If you really can't afford the treatment, get them pulled out, much better than having mercury implanted in your mouth.





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From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Mon, 11 January, 2010 12:54:42
Subject: [eSens] TEETH

 
Just lately at least 3 of my old plastic fillings plus 1 metal have fallen
out, I am left with the dillema of wether to benefit from free traetment as
I am on unemployment allowance or pay private fees- heres the catch -
The free work will give me metal filling and the quote for non metal ie
plastic composite fillings and porcelain caps amounts to £2000 ! Any advice
welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

help

Paul uk PUK

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> Any advice welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

I think gold will still act as an antenna for EMFs, and
will still contribute to problems. I had the gold in
my mouth removed, along with the mercury...

Composite fillings and crowns I think are the way to go.

Marc

If you use composites I would go for the one that is cured with
UV light. Less BPA exposure.

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Hi, Paul,
 
I SO know your dilemma!  I am currently on what seems to be permanent hold, waiting for new filling materials to be invented.  I don't do well with the current composites and I won't get any of the metal fillings.  Also some of my teeth cannot be pulled due to their roots being wrapped in nerves.  I have no real advice, but can just give you a bit of an idea of what to do till you figure it out, Paul.  lol 
 
I have looked (Googled) into how to re-enamel my teeth naturally.  (Won't necessarily work, but I have lived for the last decade with honking huge holes and not been bothered with pain, so it is at least doing something!  lol )  First try an enameling toothpaste.  I have read that "Pro-enamel" is a good one.  (I am not currently using it, so don't know the gf status if any are wondering that.  But I think I did read on the cd forum that it was.)  Also eat ALOT of greens--lettuces and veggies with chlorophyl are good for rebuilding enamel.
 
Also, do a great job brushing and flossing.  I also do "oil pulling"--that is where you swish and gargle an oil (I use safflower or sunflower oil) in your mouth for 20 mins or so.  You can check this out on a home remedy site such as  www.curezone.com  Actually, I have it saved from here:
 
http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/oil_pulling.html
 
 It takes huge resolve to do this, by the way--you want to gag somewhere around 5 mins when you first start this program.  Oil pulling acts on the principle that toxins are attracted to fats.  You really do not want to swallow any of this oil during the 20 mins.  (I dothis while I take my shower, or while I am on my treadmill.)  Spit itout well *remember this is toxic and spit it where it will not contaminateanything*, then swish and gargle again with salt water and spit that out.  Brush your teeth (I often brush with oregano oil diluted with a few drops of olive oil) and gargle with a good antiseptic mouthwash.  Then, once a day I dip my brush into a small amount of food gradehydrogen peroxide and brush with that.  I then clean my brush by cleaning it in peroxide .  Sounds like alot of work, I know.  Takes only about 5 mins once you get the hang of it, not counting the oil pulling.  This regimen was recommended by Andrew Weil a
long time ago in one of his newsletters.
 
Hope all is well on the mold front, btw. 
Take care,
Diane


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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] TEETH
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 7:54 AM


 



Just lately at least 3 of my old plastic fillings plus 1 metal have fallen
out, I am left with the dillema of wether to benefit from free traetment as
I am on unemployment allowance or pay private fees- heres the catch -
The free work will give me metal filling and the quote for non metal ie
plastic composite fillings and porcelain caps amounts to £2000 ! Any advice
welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

help

Paul uk PUK

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In a message dated 12/01/2010 23:38:04 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

antiseptic mouthwash. Then, once a day I dip my brush into a small amount
of food grade hydrogen peroxide and brush with that. I then clean my
brush by cleaning it in peroxide . Sounds like alot of work, I know. Takes
only about 5 mins once you get the hang of it, not counting the oil pulling.
This regimen was recommended by Andrew Weil a
long time ago in one of his newsletters.

Hope all is well on the mold front, btw.
Take care,
Diane



Puk replies - so kind , heaps of thanks - On another related note does
anyone here suffer from Bruxism ie teeth grinding, it is possible that due to
the stress of enduring radiation poisoning from the Plasma TV in the
vicinity that I have begun to teeth grind at night or perhaps in my case teeth
clench, anger stress and so on. the situation is the apitomy of stressfull as
it seems so out of my control, and that at the flick of a switch my
wellbeing is slowly dismantled - p


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Hi Paul and Diane
 
Paul I know exactly what you are on about - I am in the same boat too - I saw my NHS dentist in November and need two large fillings done, but she will do them in metal and even if I ask her to do them in porcelain she won't do it holistically with a special dam to avoid the mercury going down my throat etc. There is a dentist about 50 miles away who would do theholistic work, but I can't get to her at the minute and in the meantime I am trying to keep postponing my normal dentist just so that I can keep my NHS status - its a nightmare.
 
The bottom line for me is that I have 2 big root canals one of which was badly done about 15 years ago and when I am near a computer or wifi or people's cell phones I get dreadful throat pain on that side of my mouth and neck - so I'm thinking that isn't co-incidental - it is highly likely that mercury is leaking out of those root filled teethinto the jawbone and surrounding tissue and I want to have these teeth removed. This is music that has to be faced [I'm a dreadful baby about the dentist!!!]
 
But in the meantime Diane's advice is brilliant - I had really EMF sensitive  teeth at the start of last year and used the pro-enamel paste [pricey] and it did a great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read I think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Ohman!!
 
Let me know how you get on with the teeth - it is hard not to think in my case that the amalgam fillings are linked to my ill health and the ES.
 
all the best
 
Steph

--- On Tue, 12/1/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] TEETH
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 23:37


 



Hi, Paul,
 
I SO know your dilemma!  I am currently on what seems to be permanent hold, waiting for new filling materials to be invented.  I don't do well with the current composites and I won't get any of the metal fillings.  Also some of my teeth cannot be pulled due to their roots being wrapped in nerves.  I have no real advice, but can just give you a bit of an idea of what to do till you figure it out, Paul.  lol 
 
I have looked (Googled) into how to re-enamel my teeth naturally.  (Won't necessarily work, but I have lived for the last decade with honking huge holes and not been bothered with pain, so it is at least doing something!  lol )  First try an enameling toothpaste.  I have read that "Pro-enamel" is a good one.  (I am not currently using it, so don't know the gf status if any are wondering that.  But I think I did read on the cd forum that it was.)  Also eat ALOT of greens--lettuces and veggies with chlorophyl are good for rebuilding enamel.
 
Also, do a great job brushing and flossing.  I also do "oil pulling"--that is where you swish and gargle an oil (I use safflower or sunflower oil) in your mouth for 20 mins or so.  You can check this out on a home remedy site such as  www.curezone. com  Actually, I have it saved from here:
 
http://www.earthcli nic.com/Remedies /oil_pulling. html
 
 It takes huge resolve to do this, by the way--you want to gag somewhere around 5 mins when you first start this program.  Oil pulling acts on the principle that toxins are attracted to fats.  You really do not want to swallow any of this oil during the 20 mins.  (I dothis while I take my shower, or while I am on my treadmill.)  Spit itout well *remember this is toxic and spit it where it will not contaminateanything*, then swish and gargle again with salt water and spit that out.  Brush your teeth (I often brush with oregano oil diluted with a few drops of olive oil) and gargle with a good antiseptic mouthwash.  Then, once a day I dip my brush into a small amount of food gradehydrogen peroxide and brush with that.  I then clean my brush by cleaning it in peroxide .  Sounds like alot of work, I know.  Takes only about 5 mins once you get the hang of it, not counting the oil pulling.  This regimen was recommended by Andrew Weil a
long time ago in one of his newsletters.
 
Hope all is well on the mold front, btw. 
Take care,
Diane

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From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com>
Subject: [eSens] TEETH
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 7:54 AM

 

Just lately at least 3 of my old plastic fillings plus 1 metal have fallen
out, I am left with the dillema of wether to benefit from free traetment as
I am on unemployment allowance or pay private fees- heres the catch -
The free work will give me metal filling and the quote for non metal ie
plastic composite fillings and porcelain caps amounts to £2000 ! Any advice
welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

help

Paul uk PUK

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Hi,

There is an enamel on toothpaste called Oravive that is fluoride free:
oravie.com

The pressure you get going into your neck is likely from the lymph being impeded from the root canals. It's not uncommon, plus the gutta percha they pack the canal with is never tight enough to prevent bacteria in there.
The emf fields seem to change the barometric pressure in your body - whether your jaw there, or sinus, or brain, etc.

Getting them out is probably the only relief on that part.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

When I saw the endo he said my lymph glands were swollen. He suggested thatthere could be something else going on. Ya know, they don't much believe in reactions.
 
So you don't believe the gutta percha  with the filling material over it keeps the bacteria out.
 
Root Canals are just nightmares. Loni 
 


--- On Sat, 2/20/10, snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: TEETH
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 1:10 PM


 



Hi,

There is an enamel on toothpaste called Oravive that is fluoride free:
oravie.com

The pressure you get going into your neck is likely from the lymph being impeded from the root canals. It's not uncommon, plus the gutta percha they pack the canal with is never tight enough to prevent bacteria in there.
The emf fields seem to change the barometric pressure in your body - whether your jaw there, or sinus, or brain, etc.

Getting them out is probably the only relief on that part.

~ Snoshoe

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" great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read I think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!!"

Hi all

Does anyone know if other oils would do the job?
thanks
cindi





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I think this post didn't go through a couple hours ago as I was getting kicked offline:

Hi Loni,

Nope, it doesn't seal. Here's some links and snips about it. The last one may be an alternative for some of you needing nasty dental work.
Formaldehyde, lovely

Root Canal Cover-Up
Dr. Meinig found that the material gutta-percha, the most widely used root filling, a rubbery-like substance that packs more easily if it is somewhat warmed. However, when it cools and sets for a few days, shrinkage takes place. It is this expansion and contraction of the gutta-percha that causes a lot of the problems with infections....
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Education/Dentistry/Root_Canal_Cover-Up
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75% of root canals have bacterial infections, (I have read all, and from reading on it, I tend to agree with that.)

A "root canal" allows a patient to keep a dead tooth in his or her mouth. The fallacy with this concept is that the body doesn't like dead things in it and will try, sometimes desperately, to get rid of the dead thing. Notwithstanding, the fact that it may be "handy" to save a tooth for "dental convenience", it does not change the fact that root canal treatments can devastate the human immune system.

Gutta-percha endodontic filling points were found to contain approximately20% gutta-percha (matrix), 66% zinc oxide (filler), 11% heavy metal sulfates (radiopacifier), and 3% waxes and/or resins (plasticizer).

All conventional root canals still do employ toxic substances to sterilize the interior of the tooth, such as eugenol (oil of clove) and formocresol (formaldehyde-creosote).

In the 1950s. Reinhold Voll, a German M.D., using an electro-acupuncture biofeedback system he had developed, discovered that each tooth in the mouth relates to a specific acupuncture meridian.

When you have a root canal, or even a big filling, or crown or anything that is not compatible with the body, it sets up an interference field, blocking or altering the energy meridian passing through it. It will affect different parts along that meridian, different organ systems in the body. And usually will cause it to have a problem as well.

If the tooth is removed, the energy does tend to pass through it. However, without the tooth in the bone, it is still altered. (Too bad on that, but I'm still happier w/o teeth than metal, xenoestrogens, root canal, cracked and fluorosed teeth in, lol.)

Without stimulation from a tooth, blood circulation and lymphatic drainage will be impaired, and the bone and tissue surrounding the extraction site can become diseased and die. Infections in the teeth, and toxins, have no place to go but down; down into the jaw bone and into the rest of the body, creating systemic pathologies. ...

Of equal interest is the relationship of root filled teeth to traditional Chinese medicine and body energies. ...
http://tuberose.com/Root_Canals.html 
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There are many reasons why root canal treatments fail, but all of them involve bacterial growth inside the tooth. ...
http://www.metrodentist.net/latest/why-do-root-canal-treatments-fail.html --
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One dentist who wants the number of root canals performed to plummet ratherthan rise is Dr. Richard Hansen, D.M.D., Director of the Center for Advanced Dentistry in Fullerton, California. Dr. Hansen is recognized as one of the world's foremost experts on laser dentistry. The latest generation of laser equipment and techniques affords people an option to avoid conventionalroot canals, repair previously performed dental work, and prevent the needfor root canals in the future. ...
http://www.cdchealth.com/rootcanals.html

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> When I saw the endo he said my lymph glands were swollen. He suggested that there could be something else going on. Ya know, they don't much believein reactions.
>  
> So you don't believe the gutta percha  with the filling material over it keeps the bacteria out.
>  
> Root Canals are just nightmares. Loni 
>  
>
>

Hi, Cindi,
 
I do not use coconut oil.  Any oil will work, but it should not be an oil you use often to cook with (which is why I did not choose coconut oil--I rather like to eat some dishes with that in it).  I use safflower oil because I do not use that one to cook with.  The thing with using anoil you cook with is you could set up a sensitivity reaction at some pointby oil pulling.  So I choose my least favorite oil, knowing if that should happen, I will not have to give up an oil I like.  Also, there is "memory" of use--the oil tastes bad while pulling.  You don't want to eat your meals thinking about the taste of oil pulling.
 
Good luck; I found oil-pulling a useful endeavor,
Diane

--- On Sat, 2/20/10, cindi <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: cindi <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: TEETH
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 5:18 PM


 



" great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read Ithink on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!!"

Hi all

Does anyone know if other oils would do the job?
thanks
cindi

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Thanks so much Diane for your helpful insights.
cindi
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From: Evie
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: TEETH


Hi, Cindi,

I do not use coconut oil. Any oil will work, but it should not be an oil you use often to cook with (which is why I did not choose coconut oil--I rather like to eat some dishes with that in it). I use safflower oil because I do not use that one to cook with. The thing with using an oil you cook with is you could set up a sensitivity reaction at some point by oil pulling. So I choose my least favorite oil, knowing if that should happen, I will not have to give up an oil I like. Also, there is "memory" of use--the oil tastes bad while pulling. You don't want to eat your meals thinking about the taste of oil pulling.


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Hey thanks Snoshoe for all of this. Great info!  I am set to get this dang tooth pulled on Wed. Can't wait to get this gutta percha/zinc oxide plus plastic filling out of my mouth.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 2/20/10, snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: TEETH
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 3:49 PM


 



I think this post didn't go through a couple hours ago as I was getting kicked offline:

Hi Loni,

Nope, it doesn't seal. Here's some links and snips about it. The last one may be an alternative for some of you needing nasty dental work.
Formaldehyde, lovely

Root Canal Cover-Up
Dr. Meinig found that the material gutta-percha, the most widely used root filling, a rubbery-like substance that packs more easily if it is somewhat warmed. However, when it cools and sets for a few days, shrinkage takes place. It is this expansion and contraction of the gutta-percha that causes a lot of the problems with infections.. ..
http://www.life- enthusiast. com/index/ Education/ Dentistry/ Root_Canal_ Cover-Up
-----
75% of root canals have bacterial infections, (I have read all, and from reading on it, I tend to agree with that.)

A "root canal" allows a patient to keep a dead tooth in his or her mouth. The fallacy with this concept is that the body doesn't like dead things in it and will try, sometimes desperately, to get rid of the dead thing. Notwithstanding, the fact that it may be "handy" to save a tooth for "dental convenience" , it does not change the fact that root canal treatments can devastate the human immune system.

Gutta-percha endodontic filling points were found to contain approximately 20% gutta-percha (matrix), 66% zinc oxide (filler), 11% heavy metal sulfates (radiopacifier) , and 3% waxes and/or resins (plasticizer) .

All conventional root canals still do employ toxic substances to sterilize the interior of the tooth, such as eugenol (oil of clove) and formocresol (formaldehyde- creosote) .

In the 1950s. Reinhold Voll, a German M.D., using an electro-acupuncture biofeedback system he had developed, discovered that each tooth in the mouth relates to a specific acupuncture meridian.

When you have a root canal, or even a big filling, or crown or anything that is not compatible with the body, it sets up an interference field, blocking or altering the energy meridian passing through it. It will affect different parts along that meridian, different organ systems in the body. And usually will cause it to have a problem as well.

If the tooth is removed, the energy does tend to pass through it. However, without the tooth in the bone, it is still altered. (Too bad on that, but I'm still happier w/o teeth than metal, xenoestrogens, root canal, cracked and fluorosed teeth in, lol.)

Without stimulation from a tooth, blood circulation and lymphatic drainage will be impaired, and the bone and tissue surrounding the extraction site can become diseased and die. Infections in the teeth, and toxins, have no place to go but down; down into the jaw bone and into the rest of the body, creating systemic pathologies. ...

Of equal interest is the relationship of root filled teeth to traditional Chinese medicine and body energies. ...
http://tuberose. com/Root_ Canals.html
--------
There are many reasons why root canal treatments fail, but all of them involve bacterial growth inside the tooth. ...
http://www.metroden tist.net/ latest/why- do-root-canal- treatments- fail.html --
------
One dentist who wants the number of root canals performed to plummet ratherthan rise is Dr. Richard Hansen, D.M.D., Director of the Center for Advanced Dentistry in Fullerton, California. Dr. Hansen is recognized as one of the world's foremost experts on laser dentistry. The latest generation of laser equipment and techniques affords people an option to avoid conventionalroot canals, repair previously performed dental work, and prevent the needfor root canals in the future. ...
http://www.cdchealt h.com/rootcanals .html

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote:
>
> When I saw the endo he said my lymph glands were swollen. He suggested that there could be something else going on. Ya know, they don't much believein reactions.
>  
> So you don't believe the gutta percha  with the filling material over it keeps the bacteria out.
>  
> Root Canals are just nightmares. Loni 
>  
>
>









     

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