I thought I would share this and maybe someone else has already done so, so sorry if it's a repeat.
Mid August this year, I started a two-week regimen of Echinacea & Goldenseal Root, which purportedly boosts the immune system. A few days later, along with the Echinacea & Goldenseal Root, I started taking Evening Primrose Oil gel caps, which is also an immune booster. And while that's underway, I'm reading the book, "Electromagnetic Radiation Survival Guide", by Dr. Jonathan Halpern, PhD. From the book I learned that aluminum foil works like an antenna. So I removed all the aluminum foil tape I had affixed to devices. In addition to the two supplements above I started taking activated charcoal. I believe I read about that here on the forum. Maybe from Mark. Another thing I learned from Dr. Halpern's book is "the utility companies can significantly reduce the contamination (of electricity) by installing special low pass filters between the grid and the consumer." Because I still am being burned and shocked by some devices, I wonder if that would benefit me? That is if I could get the electric company to do it. Oh, and I stopped wearing metal frame glasses, a suggestion by Jeromy Johnson, http://www.emfanalysis.com. Before, my glasses had metal frames. After sitting in front of the monitor for a period of time and I would happen to look in a mirror later, my face would be bright pink. Plastic frame glasses, no more pink faces! One of the things that reduced my suffering was to remove all the filters I had plugged into electrical outlets. After I had put the filters in, I felt my symptoms were getting worse. Plus, the backs of my hands and a little on the palms were getting little dark pink spots on them. The spots didn't seem to be on the outer skin but below the skin. That was discouraging! After removing the filters the spots have almost faded away. Not sure if the filters were the cause but the spots appeared not long after the filters and started going away after unplugging them all. My hands also burned while the filters were installed. Since April 2014, I have been keeping a daily journal of how I'm feeling, the weather, etc. I looked back at the journal and it's been since September 6 that I haven't had any symptoms! I do still get burned by my keyboard and mouse and Kindle. I don't know if any of the things I'm doing has made the elimination of symptoms possible or if it's a change in the atmosphere or what. I don't really care though because I feel really good right now. I guess before this turns in to a book, I'll stop for now!
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Thanks for sharing... looks like you're now doing a lot of things that I've been doing for awhile. Hard to say what exactly is the most helpful, though.
Interesting that the filters were actually causing you problems! Although as I recall, Stetzer filters gave me a sharp pain in my head, so I never really used them in the first place. Marc |
Hi, Marc! Yeah, I first purchased a single filter, not Stetzer. It was purported to cover a 5,000 sq ft house! That should have been my first clue!! I was so miserable at the time I was buying everything people were talking about. I had just learned that what I was suffering had a name. Anyway, later on I purchased a couple S filters from Amazaon. Still didn't notice anything . . . nothing changed. I know I was still suffering horrible symptoms. Then I purchased the package of S filters, 7 filters and the gauge. That's when my hands started burning and just prior to pulling all the filters out of the wall sockets, I started getting the bright pink spots on my hands, especially the backs of my hands. If you looked at the spots with a magnifying glass the spots actually looked like little little tiny webs of blood. (Not such a good explanation.) The spots didn't have any sensation, they were just there. I didn't know if it was the filters, still don't, just thought I'd try it without them.
Anyway, as we go along we try stuff, some of it works and some not and not everything works for everyone in the same way. Thanks for your response! Sometimes that helps, too, just hearing from other people who are experiencing EMS. Have a good one!
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Stetzer filters caused me to feel sicker. Most homes have wiring errors. When a Stetzer is plugged into an outlet on a circuit with a wiring error the magnetic field throughout the house will skyrocket to a dangerous level. Mr. Stetzer, the electrician, has to know all about this yet does not warn consumers about this.
Excerpt from Conrad Biologic http://www.conradbiologic.com/articles/EMFscams.html STETZER FILTERS The Stetzer device is a capacitor-type filter that does remove some of the powerline noise, but only differential mode noise below 100 KHz. Many vendors of these filters are either ignorant or dishonest because they claim it eliminates most of the noise, and they base this conclusion on readings that they obtain with the meter they sell with their device with the meter plugged in next to the device. The problem is that their meter only measures the type and frequencies of the noise that they remove (differential mode noise below about 100 KHz), but does not measure the type that they don't remove (differential mode noise above 100 Hz, and common mode noise). Furthermore, the way that the Stetzer filters remove some of the differential mode noise is by converting it into additional common mode noise (which they don't remove), and they are not very effective at a distance from the outlet where they are plugged in. Almost all computer-generated noise and switching power supply noise is at a much higher frequency than 100KHz. Stetzer filters aren't effective above 100KHz. Stetzer filters are used by plugging them into outlets throughout the house. But if the source of the noise is from within the house (such as computer equipment), the noise needs to be filtered out between the equipment and the outlet, before it reaches the outlet. If the noise comes from outside the home, filtering is best applied before the power enters the house. Although the latter would cost thousands of dollars and the Stetzer filters are far less expensive, this does not mean that Stetzer filters are an alternative that can have any significant benefit. The Stetzer filter is not a very effective filter. Any effective filter uses multiple stages of inductance and capacitance. Even the cheapest of computer filters employ both inductance and capacitance. The Stetzer filters do not use any inductors, only capacitors. Even in the very limited range that these filters operate (only differential mode noise and only between 4 and 100 KHz) the reduction is very small compared to the amount necessary to make a real difference for electrically sensitive persons - the noise reduction is only about 10 or 20 dB (see section 4. D) below), and it does nothing to common mode noise. Many electrically sensitive people have reported no benefit from Stetzer filters. And of course, powerline filters do nothing for ground currents or for emissions radiated directly from devices. The Stetzer filters can only be of benefit in situations where most of the noise is of the differential mode type and is below 100 KHz Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:53:24 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: Symptom Free Right Now! Hi, Marc! Yeah, I first purchased a single filter, not Stetzer. It was purported to cover a 5,000 sq ft house! That should have been my first clue!! I was so miserable at the time I was buying everything people were talking about. I had just learned that what I was suffering had a name. Anyway, later on I purchased a couple S filters from Amazaon. Still didn't notice anything . . . nothing changed. I know I was still suffering horrible symptoms. Then I purchased the package of S filters, 7 filters and the gauge. That's when my hands started burning and just prior to pulling all the filters out of the wall sockets, I started getting the bright pink spots on my hands, especially the backs of my hands. If you looked at the spots with a magnifying glass the spots actually looked like little little tiny webs of blood. (Not such a good explanation.) The spots didn't have any sensation, they were just there. I didn't know if it was the filters, still don't, just thought I'd try it without them. Anyway, as we go along we try stuff, some of it works and some not and not everything works for everyone in the same way. Thanks for your response! Sometimes that helps, too, just hearing from other people who are experiencing EMS. Have a good one!
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Kay
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> The Stetzer device is a capacitor-type filter that does remove some of the powerline noise, but only
> differential mode noise below 100 KHz. I think the audio/video world has much better EMF filters, although also more costly. Lately I ran across the "Venom Defender", which specifically targets the frequencies that are commonly generated by today's power supplies. Haven't tried one yet, as these are $200 per filter: http://www.audiopolitan.com/blog/shunyata-research-venom-defender-power-conditioner/ Marc |
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"(differential mode noise below about 100 KHz), but does not measure the type that they don't remove (differential mode noise above 100 Hz, and common mode noise)"
Maybe because the studies performed and the classified information Mr Stetzer is privy to show no concern for transients higher than 100 kHz? I don't know....but for Mr Conrad to call it a scam? That's a little overbearing, especially when there is no evidence supporting it and plenty of evidence showing they work. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2557071/ I use Stetzer filters to find errors in wiring. There have been many instances where a magnetic field will actually be lowered (if there are no errors) as seen in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaMJUIlj4zs "Many electrically sensitive people have reported no benefit from Stetzer filters." This may be due to another man made electric or magnetic field bothering them. There is no one step approach when dealing with AC electric, AC magnetic, RF, and power quality. |
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> Maybe because the studies performed and the classified information Mr
> Stetzer is privy to show no concern for transients higher than 100 kHz? I > don't know.... Yes, there are some people who think the higher frequencies are of no concern, but I think in my case at least, the higher frequencies are my primary issue. And I think these simple capacitor filters (and I mean all of them, not just the Stetzer filters) reduced the lower frequencies while at the same time increase the higher frequencies. I've had better luck with filters from the audio/video world -- for example the Furman "linear filtering" power strips (which specifically say they don't increase the higher frequencies). I can also tolerate PS Audios's "Noise Harvesters", which don't shunt the noise to the neutral, but rather use the noise to power an LED light. However, I haven't noticed any obvious benefit from using these, although when they flash a lot I see a corresponding increase in the Stetzerizer meter readings and also my symptoms (and they do reduce the meter readings, but not by much) Marc |
Gosh, this has gotten way to technical for me!
![]() I do have a question regards an observation today. Early on this morning I was at my computer, using my mouse and keyboard and was feeling a slight burning sensation, very slight compared to what it used to feel like. So, I got up from my desk for a while. Now I've been back at my computer using my keyboard and mouse and I can actually leave my hand resting on my mouse, no burning. I haven't been able to do that for going on three years. I haven't done anything inside my home that is different. What could be the cause? Possibly the answer lies somewhere in all the information from my original post! Thanks, everyone!
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I find that every day is different, whether you're aware of it or not. :-)
For example, your neighbors may be doing something that is dumping noise onto your electrical wiring, and you're feeling bad while it happens. Although I don't use the Stetzer filters, I did keep the meter, and I can see the noise increase and decrease throughout the day, even though there is nothing that I'm doing different in the house. Marc |
I didn't keep the Stetzer gauge I had but I do have a little tiny transistor radio that I run around my place periodically. With it I pretty much know where the hot spots are. I didn't think about using it this morning but I guess it wouldn't have mattered because there's nothing to do if it's coming from outside my home.
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You could have waited for things to settle down before using the computer. :-)
I find my power lines are noisy one minute, quiet the next... Marc |
I did wait for it to settle down! Almost as soon as it started I got up from my desk and went to do something else! I get smarter as time goes on "sometimes"!
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I me4asure a lot of frequencies between 5kHz and 10 Mhz, even up to 30MHz.
The Stetzer filters omly go to max 150kHz, not higher. The german Bajog filters can filter up to 30MHz. However, they can produce what I call *dirty air*, as also do the Stetzer filters. Stetzer advises to place some 20-30 filters in the house, which is not right. One should first locate the trouble-makers, eliminate them as best as you can, and use only maximum five filters in the house, otherwise unwanted resonances may occur. |
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> Yes, there are some people who think the higher frequencies are of no concern, but I think in my case >at least, the higher frequencies are my primary issue.
Interesting...I used to be super sensitive like you, but not so much once my bedroom was free of all EMF. After shutting the power down at the main panel, I found stray voltage/current traveling through the rebar in the concrete foundation. This was not good because I sleep under a Swiss canopy. Once I changed my bedroom to the second level, the body voltage dropped to 5 mV from 200mV. Touching the concrete with my bare feet brought it up around 600mV. I have slept much better and in turn my sensitivities have vanished. This has happened with quite a few people I know. |
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Having the right equipment and knowing how measure is key in knowing what's really going on.
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Thanks for the tip on the Bajog filters.
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"I can see the noise increase and decrease throughout the day, even though there is nothing that I'm doing different in the house."
Neighbors with solar panels, tied into the grid, will cause dirty electricity along with pulsed voltage. ![]() |
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How wonderful that you're EMF sensitivities have vanished!
Do you also turn off the electric circuit running under the floor of your bedroom (the room below)? I do this, but I've also had to put a barrier under the bed/canopy of Aaronia Shield fabric to block the fields coming from the floor below. Layers of over-lapped heavy duty aluminum foil will work just as well if they extend outward on all sides of the bed so that the canopy can make contact with the foil. Some people run an alligator clip wire from the foil and plug into the ground of an electric outlet, I haven't found it necessary to do that. Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:05:52 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: RE: Re: Symptom Free Right Now! > Yes, there are some people who think the higher frequencies are of no concern, but I think in my case >at least, the higher frequencies are my primary issue. Interesting...I used to be super sensitive like you, but not so much once my bedroom was free of all EMF. After shutting the power down at the main panel, I found stray voltage/current traveling through the rebar in the concrete foundation. This was not good because I sleep under a Swiss canopy. Once I changed my bedroom to the second level, the body voltage dropped to 5 mV from 200mV. Touching the concrete with my bare feet brought it up around 600mV. I have slept much better and in turn my sensitivities have vanished. This has happened with quite a few people I know.
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I need to figure out which breaker turns off the current to my bedroom. Then I've been giving serious consideration to buying a new bed, one with no inner springs in the mattress and no boxed springs below the mattress.
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Yes, eliminating innersprings in my mattress was very helpful. Although it took some trial and error to find such a mattress that didn't give me back pains!
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