Strength of Cell Towers

Can someone send what cell towers omit?

It was explained 4G is 700 Mghz.

What is the rate of pulsing at short distance vs. so many ft?

What about stronger pulsing at phone bases?

Thanks, Kathy


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>What about stronger pulsing at phone bases?


I was at my sister's house & first night was ok because I guess my body burden topped out but the second night I burned to death. Migraine headache. I had to get the heck out.
 
Well they went to italy so I can stay there if I can tolerate and last night I figured out it was the
dang dect cordless phone burning me up. Unplugged it and I was fine!
 
I'm so grateful to have a bed to sleep in and a roof over my head for a couple of weeks.
 
Loni


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Can someone send what cell towers omit?

It was explained 4G is 700 Mghz.

What is the rate of pulsing at short distance vs. so many ft?

What about stronger pulsing at phone bases?

Thanks, Kathy

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> Can someone send what cell towers omit?
> It was explained 4G is 700 Mghz.

No, it was explained that 4G LTE offered by Verizon
in the USA is 700Mhz.  Other types of "4G" may
be different.  And the various 2G/3G towers
have their own frequencies, with AT&T being
different than Verizon, and International
being different than the USA.

But in general, I think they are all transmitting in
the range of 700 Mhz - 2500 Mhz.

Marc

I found out that AT & T launched their "Blackberry Torch" phone 3 weeks ago and that is
when I came home from camping and found my house intolerable.
 
Then on the 8th of Sept Verizon launched the "Bionic" phone and that particular day was agony!
 
Sept 4th AT & T launched the "LG Thrill 3D"  phone.
 
So we're getting more and more radiation and these companies don't care.
 
Marc;  At bull dog canyon where I sleep (used to) the whole park is blanketed with this burning frequency and I can't even find a safe place behind a burm or bushes. It's terrifying.
 
So is it the lower frequency 700 Mhz or the bandwith that is so harmful to me?
 
The 4G has been going on since last year here and only when these phones were released has it  been totally intolerable for me so I'm thinking it is this bandwith.
 
But I don't understand any of this technical stuff but would really like to know what is hurting me.
 
Loni

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> Can someone send what cell towers omit?
> It was explained 4G is 700 Mghz.

No, it was explained that 4G LTE offered by Verizon
in the USA is 700Mhz. Other types of "4G" may
be different. And the various 2G/3G towers
have their own frequencies, with AT&T being
different than Verizon, and International
being different than the USA.

But in general, I think they are all transmitting in
the range of 700 Mhz - 2500 Mhz.

Marc







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> I found out that AT & T launched their "Blackberry Torch" phone 3 weeks ago and that is
> when I came home from camping and found my house intolerable.

Might be a coincidence -- that phone uses the older 4G.
  
> Then on the 8th of Sept Verizon launched the "Bionic" phone and that particular day was agony!

That phone uses the newer 4G LTE.
  
> Sept 4th AT & T launched the "LG Thrill 3D"  phone.

Older 4G.

> So is it the lower frequency 700 Mhz or the bandwith that is so harmful to me?

Only the 4G LTE (the Verizon Bionic phones) is using that particular frequency,
and I don't even know if this is available in your area (as I'm sure they
start with the major cities and gradually spread it throughout the country).
Although I'm sure the Verizon website has coverage maps.

Marc

'
Mark,

4 G bothers me the most too. Awful being cooked. Would be nice if more felt it so something could be done faster. 

Feel different levels of burning out driving.


I don't look at others  phones much to tell you which bothers me more.


Kathy


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      > I found out that AT & T launched their "Blackberry Torch" phone 3 weeks ago and that is

> when I came home from camping and found my house intolerable.



Might be a coincidence -- that phone uses the older 4G.

  

> Then on the 8th of Sept Verizon launched the "Bionic" phone and that particular day was agony!



That phone uses the newer 4G LTE.

  

> Sept 4th AT & T launched the "LG Thrill 3D"  phone.



Older 4G.



> So is it the lower frequency 700 Mhz or the bandwith that is so harmful to me?



Only the 4G LTE (the Verizon Bionic phones) is using that particular frequency,

and I don't even know if this is available in your area (as I'm sure they

start with the major cities and gradually spread it throughout the country).

Although I'm sure the Verizon website has coverage maps.



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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What do you mean older 4G?  And wouldn't AT & T be increasing the bandwidth or whatever they do to make it transmit faster?
 
Loni
 

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> I found out that AT & T launched their "Blackberry Torch" phone 3 weeks ago and that is
> when I came home from camping and found my house intolerable.

Might be a coincidence -- that phone uses the older 4G.
 
> Then on the 8th of Sept Verizon launched the "Bionic" phone and that particular day was agony!

That phone uses the newer 4G LTE.
 
> Sept 4th AT & T launched the "LG Thrill 3D"  phone.

Older 4G.

> So is it the lower frequency 700 Mhz or the bandwith that is so harmful to me?

Only the 4G LTE (the Verizon Bionic phones) is using that particular frequency,
and I don't even know if this is available in your area (as I'm sure they
start with the major cities and gradually spread it throughout the country).
Although I'm sure the Verizon website has coverage maps.

Marc







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> What do you mean older 4G?  And wouldn't AT & T be increasing the bandwidth
> or whatever they do to make it transmit faster?

What I mean is that the term "4G" is used to mean all sorts of things --
some companies (e.g., AT&T) are even calling their old 3G systems "4G"!

AT&T is indeed in the process of upgrading speeds of their 4G systems,
with their 3G (HSPA) systems upgraded to HSPA+ (both being called "4G"),
and their own 700Mhz 4G LTE (incompatible with Verizon's 700Mhz 4G LTE),
is being rolled out soon - by the end of the year, AT&T expects to have
4G LTE available in 15 USA cities.

Marc

Loni wrote:
> So is it the lower frequency 700 Mhz or the bandwith that is so harmful to me?
>  
> The 4G has been going on since last year here and only when these phones were released has it  been totally intolerable for me so I'm thinking it is this bandwith.
>  

I would say you are correct. When more users come online, and start
using their new toys, the amount of traffic being transmitted from the
tower increases, and the transmissions from the phones themselves, if
they are nearby, will get you also. However, in urban areas where the
tower is closeby, say within a mile, then the cell phone does not need
to transmit at full power to be heard.

So focus on the towers as causing the most harm, and with the more
usage, the more transmitting of digital bursts, the higher bandwidth
being utilized, thus the higher power density, the higher readings on
good meters.

The other possibility, is the pattern of the communications protocol. I
have heard and read it is the digital content that we with ES are
reacting to, the pattern of the little digital jackhammers.

Also note, applying my statement to WiFi is okay, as the router in the
home becomes the equivalent of a tower.

Stewart

Loni wrote:
> Well they went to italy so I can stay there if I can tolerate and last night I figured out it was the
> dang dect cordless phone burning me up. Unplugged it and I was fine!
>  

Three cheers! Good for you!

Stewart

So that means more radiation when AT & T rolls that out correct?  Loni

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> What do you mean older 4G?  And wouldn't AT & T be increasing the bandwidth
> or whatever they do to make it transmit faster?

What I mean is that the term "4G" is used to mean all sorts of things --
some companies (e.g., AT&T) are even calling their old 3G systems "4G"!

AT&T is indeed in the process of upgrading speeds of their 4G systems,
with their 3G (HSPA) systems upgraded to HSPA+ (both being called "4G"),
and their own 700Mhz 4G LTE (incompatible with Verizon's 700Mhz 4G LTE),
is being rolled out soon - by the end of the year, AT&T expects to have
4G LTE available in 15 USA cities.

Marc







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Thanks Stewart! I have a couple of weeks with a roof over my head at night. Yay!  Loni

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Loni wrote:
> Well they went to italy so I can stay there if I can tolerate and last night I figured out it was the
> dang dect cordless phone burning me up. Unplugged it and I was fine!
>

Three cheers! Good for you!

Stewart








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> So that means more radiation when AT & T rolls that out correct?  Loni

Yes, the radiation level is going to increase until some of these cellphone
companies go out of business or agree to use compatible towers, or
people cut back on their phone usage...

Marc

What can we do about this?  I want to scream. Call FCC and complain? Congress? 
 
Any ideas anyone?  Frying in Arizona!   Loni

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> So that means more radiation when AT & T rolls that out correct?  Loni

Yes, the radiation level is going to increase until some of these cellphone
companies go out of business or agree to use compatible towers, or
people cut back on their phone usage...

Marc







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What would have stopped people from smoking in the 1950's?

On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Loni wrote:

Ob my God. There must be something we can do.

Kathy


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      > So that means more radiation when AT & T rolls that out correct?  Loni



Yes, the radiation level is going to increase until some of these cellphone

companies go out of business or agree to use compatible towers, or

people cut back on their phone usage...



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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They would have to have come out that it causes cancer.

Why can't we use we don't want to be exposed to a class 2 carcinogen?

You'd have to prove the ranges that would expose. Could use that for smart meters as well.

Kathy
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      What would have stopped people from smoking in the 1950's?



On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Loni wrote:



> What can we do about this?  I want to scream. Call FCC and complain? Congress?  

>  

> Any ideas anyone?  Frying in Arizona!   Loni

>



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How can we find out what we have in place now? Do you think they'd tell you the truth?

Kathy


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      > do you mean older 4G?  And wouldn't AT & T be increasing the bandwidth

> or whatever they do to make it transmit faster?



What I mean is that the term "4G" is used to mean all sorts of things --

some companies (e.g., AT&T) are even calling their old 3G systems "4G"!



AT&T is indeed in the process of upgrading speeds of their 4G systems,

with their 3G (HSPA) systems upgraded to HSPA+ (both being called "4G"),

and their own 700Mhz 4G LTE (incompatible with Verizon's 700Mhz 4G LTE),

is being rolled out soon - by the end of the year, AT&T expects to have

4G LTE available in 15 USA cities.



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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Doing a PR campaign that makes us, those complaining, look like the mainstream, calm, rational people and pitting the telecom industry as the villains, is a good start. Going after the minds of the sheeple and swinging their vote, is the goal. Get 10% of the population to believe/support us and the other 89% will follow. The other 1% is above/below/off the radar.

Get babies, mothers, old people, children doing YouTube adds, telling how evil the conniving, sinister telecom executives are trying to do what big tobacco did during the 40's, 50's, 60's to us all, the innocent victims.

Needs to have solid research/info behind the claims as well as nice, good looking professionals calmly reporting the facts, not excited, fringe whack jobs.

Got any body with a camera willing to do high end productions? Liz Barris with [hidden email]

is fund raising for her new video to finish editing and make it to the big screen.

This needs gut wrenching stories that will "move" people out of their addicted mind controlled states of stupor. Expect this to take at least 10-15 years.

The other way is the way of the terrorist. I won't condone that way because since "they" control everything, violence, as a response to the overwhelming control of the telecom industry, will be labelled as terrorism. You'll be in jail before sun down.


 


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Good points, Andrew.  But I would hope it would not take 10-15 years.  I firmly believe that if we brainstorm and really, I mean really focus on ways to get the info circulating that something can be done in say five years.  

On a sidenote, I've been trying to reach you.  You returned one message of mine but I have not been able to make live contact with you as of yet.   I've seen your interview with a local news station and then made the connection that you were the same person from this list and also connected with the symphony.   Your solid reputation means much to this 'movement'.  

Perry