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sctdh

Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over
50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
that typical?

Paul

Andrew McAfee

Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage 400-1500+
(the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a lot
of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now around
5-20.
Andrew
On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 PM, sctdh wrote:

> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over
> 50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
> might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
> that typical?
>
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sctdh

Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

I wonder if 600-1400 reading are than the filters can handle. The 1400 is the power strips for this computer. 600 in most walls, some as low as 200. I might need an electrician.

Paul

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage 400-1500+
(the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a lot
of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now around
5-20.
Andrew
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Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

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Yes, our (vintage 1920) house had readings this high. Our neighbor's house
(built at the same time, by the same builder, with the same floor plan)
had much lower readings. We were able to achieve good results with the
filters. We needed about 20 filters to do the whole job.

Emil

> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over 50
> is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i might
> have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is that
> typical?
>
> Paul

sctdh

Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

Thanks emil and everyone. I noticed that the readings went way down at night.

EMIL DETOFFOL <[hidden email]> wrote: Yes, our (vintage 1920) house had readings this high. Our neighbor's house
(built at the same time, by the same builder, with the same floor plan)
had much lower readings. We were able to achieve good results with the
filters. We needed about 20 filters to do the whole job.

Emil

> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over 50
> is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i might
> have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is that
> typical?
>
> Paul

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Andrew McAfee

Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

In reply to this post by sctdh

If you are in a house, have an electrician install two outlets off of
where your power comes into your house, one off the A Phase and one off
the B phase side. Install filters there and that will be the most
efficient way of lowering the outside frequencies from your neighbor's
dimmer switches, appliances, etc. Then you are left with what you are
creating in the house with your equipment and other radiation radiating
with the wires.
Sometimes the numbers drop easily and quickly with only a few filters
and in some places you'll need two power strips full of filters to get
it down to 50. There are many variables.
Andrew

On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Laidback wrote:

> I wonder if 600-1400 reading are than the filters can handle. The 1400
> is the power strips for this computer. 600 in most walls, some as low
> as 200. I might need an electrician.
>
> Paul
>
> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage
> 400-1500+
> (the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a lot
> of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now around
> 5-20.
> Andrew
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 PM, sctdh wrote:
>
>> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
>> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over
>> 50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
>> might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
>> that typical?
>>
>> Paul
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sctdh

Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

I rent my house so I don't know if I can make changes like that. I don't now what A and B phase are. Where does the power enter, is that the fuse box? There there outlets abotu sex feet away from the box, and one has a lower reading, like 200, the others have the average of around 500, but those fluctuation. Maybe I can try to do it with the 20 filters. I may move in a year so i can take the filters with me, unlike the fixed changes.

So is this wire noise often the main thing?
I have also grounded my bed and office chair and keep a distance from some things in the bedroom and office. I wonder how much my food is effected in the refrigerator. I don't use the top shelf under the motor.

Paul

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
If you are in a house, have an electrician install two outlets off of
where your power comes into your house, one off the A Phase and one off
the B phase side. Install filters there and that will be the most
efficient way of lowering the outside frequencies from your neighbor's
dimmer switches, appliances, etc. Then you are left with what you are
creating in the house with your equipment and other radiation radiating
with the wires.
Sometimes the numbers drop easily and quickly with only a few filters
and in some places you'll need two power strips full of filters to get
it down to 50. There are many variables.
Andrew

On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Laidback wrote:

Andrew McAfee

Re: Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter

Put filters near the breaker box to eliminate outside frequencies and
then experience with the rest of the house near the appliances. Don't
sleep near the filters and I recommend turning the power off to the
room where you sleep.
Get a body voltage meter and test to see how much voltage is running
through you in bed. Less that 50 millivolts is the goal. I had 7 volts
running through me once. There may be wires running underneath your
floor or in the wall that spill electrical fields over you.
I recommend getting rid of the wire spring mattress and bed and sleep
on a natural latex foam or organic cotton futon.
good luck.
Andrew
On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Laidback wrote:

> I rent my house so I don't know if I can make changes like that. I
> don't now what A and B phase are. Where does the power enter, is that
> the fuse box? There there outlets abotu sex feet away from the box,
> and one has a lower reading, like 200, the others have the average of
> around 500, but those fluctuation. Maybe I can try to do it with the
> 20 filters. I may move in a year so i can take the filters with me,
> unlike the fixed changes.
>
> So is this wire noise often the main thing?
> I have also grounded my bed and office chair and keep a distance
> from some things in the bedroom and office. I wonder how much my food
> is effected in the refrigerator. I don't use the top shelf under the
> motor.
>
> Paul
>
> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
> If you are in a house, have an electrician install two outlets off of
> where your power comes into your house, one off the A Phase and one off
> the B phase side. Install filters there and that will be the most
> efficient way of lowering the outside frequencies from your neighbor's
> dimmer switches, appliances, etc. Then you are left with what you are
> creating in the house with your equipment and other radiation radiating
> with the wires.
> Sometimes the numbers drop easily and quickly with only a few filters
> and in some places you'll need two power strips full of filters to get
> it down to 50. There are many variables.
> Andrew
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Laidback wrote:
>
>> I wonder if 600-1400 reading are than the filters can handle. The 1400
>> is the power strips for this computer. 600 in most walls, some as low
>> as 200. I might need an electrician.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage
>> 400-1500+
>> (the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a
>> lot
>> of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now around
>> 5-20.
>> Andrew
>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 PM, sctdh wrote:
>>
>>> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
>>> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over
>>> 50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
>>> might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
>>> that typical?
>>>
>>> Paul
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sctdh

Stetzer Filters

Why not sleep by the filters and how do you define "near?"

If i am going to spend $600 i would like to know how much stetzer filters helped the people here on this list. Is it worth it?

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
Put filters near the breaker box to eliminate outside frequencies and
then experience with the rest of the house near the appliances. Don't
sleep near the filters and I recommend turning the power off to the
room where you sleep.
Get a body voltage meter and test to see how much voltage is running
through you in bed. Less that 50 millivolts is the goal. I had 7 volts
running through me once. There may be wires running underneath your
floor or in the wall that spill electrical fields over you.
I recommend getting rid of the wire spring mattress and bed and sleep
on a natural latex foam or organic cotton futon.
good luck.
Andrew
On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Laidback wrote:

Andrew McAfee

Re: Stetzer Filters

Like I've said before, be sure you have a gauss meter that measures
magnetic fields so when you put the filters in you can check if the
magnetic fields get worse alone the wire or near your bed. If they get
worse, there is a neutral wire problem which can be fixed.
The harmonics are being shorted back onto the neutral wire and it'll
overload the wire if not connected properly with the other neutrals.
Charles Keen is the expert that taught me about this.
Charles Keen
EMF Services
www.emfservices.com
888-840-0668
.
So if there are no problems with your neutrals, put the filters so your
sleeping area is as calm as possible. If you have a filter next to your
head, you are going to get a magnetic field and audio frequency
harmonics near you which is not good.
Have them at least across the room if not down the hall.
If the filters whine or make squealing sounds, they are overloaded and
more need to be put on that wire to bring the "noise" down. I recommend
using the Quantum Conditioners Power Strip or buy Stetzer's power
strip which works well in reducing the harmonics and smooths out the
waves quite well.
Andrew

On Jun 3, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Laidback wrote:

> Why not sleep by the filters and how do you define "near?"
>
> If i am going to spend $600 i would like to know how much stetzer
> filters helped the people here on this list. Is it worth it?
>
>
>
> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Put filters near the breaker box to eliminate outside frequencies and
> then experience with the rest of the house near the appliances. Don't
> sleep near the filters and I recommend turning the power off to the
> room where you sleep.
> Get a body voltage meter and test to see how much voltage is running
> through you in bed. Less that 50 millivolts is the goal. I had 7 volts
> running through me once. There may be wires running underneath your
> floor or in the wall that spill electrical fields over you.
> I recommend getting rid of the wire spring mattress and bed and sleep
> on a natural latex foam or organic cotton futon.
> good luck.
> Andrew
> On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Laidback wrote:
>
>> I rent my house so I don't know if I can make changes like that. I
>> don't now what A and B phase are. Where does the power enter, is that
>> the fuse box? There there outlets abotu sex feet away from the box,
>> and one has a lower reading, like 200, the others have the average of
>> around 500, but those fluctuation. Maybe I can try to do it with the
>> 20 filters. I may move in a year so i can take the filters with me,
>> unlike the fixed changes.
>>
>> So is this wire noise often the main thing?
>> I have also grounded my bed and office chair and keep a distance
>> from some things in the bedroom and office. I wonder how much my food
>> is effected in the refrigerator. I don't use the top shelf under the
>> motor.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> If you are in a house, have an electrician install two outlets off
>> of
>> where your power comes into your house, one off the A Phase and one
>> off
>> the B phase side. Install filters there and that will be the most
>> efficient way of lowering the outside frequencies from your neighbor's
>> dimmer switches, appliances, etc. Then you are left with what you are
>> creating in the house with your equipment and other radiation
>> radiating
>> with the wires.
>> Sometimes the numbers drop easily and quickly with only a few filters
>> and in some places you'll need two power strips full of filters to get
>> it down to 50. There are many variables.
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Laidback wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if 600-1400 reading are than the filters can handle. The
>>> 1400
>>> is the power strips for this computer. 600 in most walls, some as low
>>> as 200. I might need an electrician.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage
>>> 400-1500+
>>> (the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a
>>> lot
>>> of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now around
>>> 5-20.
>>> Andrew
>>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 PM, sctdh wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
>>>> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and over
>>>> 50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
>>>> might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
>>>> that typical?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> wellness program Health promotion and wellness Health and
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sctdh

Re: Stetzer Power Strip

I can't find the power strip at their website. Where is it?

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: Like I've said before, be sure you have a gauss meter that measures
magnetic fields so when you put the filters in you can check if the
magnetic fields get worse alone the wire or near your bed. If they get
worse, there is a neutral wire problem which can be fixed.
The harmonics are being shorted back onto the neutral wire and it'll
overload the wire if not connected properly with the other neutrals.
Charles Keen is the expert that taught me about this.
Charles Keen
EMF Services
www.emfservices.com
888-840-0668
.
So if there are no problems with your neutrals, put the filters so your
sleeping area is as calm as possible. If you have a filter next to your
head, you are going to get a magnetic field and audio frequency
harmonics near you which is not good.
Have them at least across the room if not down the hall.
If the filters whine or make squealing sounds, they are overloaded and
more need to be put on that wire to bring the "noise" down. I recommend
using the Quantum Conditioners Power Strip or buy Stetzer's power
strip which works well in reducing the harmonics and smooths out the
waves quite well.
Andrew

On Jun 3, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Laidback wrote:

sctdh

Re: Stetzer Filters

In reply to this post by Andrew McAfee

I have outlets about 3 and 4 feet from the bed. How is that?

I have a conductive pad that is grounded.

I have a foam mattress but a metal frame underneath it.

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
Like I've said before, be sure you have a gauss meter that measures
magnetic fields so when you put the filters in you can check if the
magnetic fields get worse alone the wire or near your bed. If they get
worse, there is a neutral wire problem which can be fixed.
The harmonics are being shorted back onto the neutral wire and it'll
overload the wire if not connected properly with the other neutrals.
Charles Keen is the expert that taught me about this.
Charles Keen
EMF Services
www.emfservices.com
888-840-0668
.
So if there are no problems with your neutrals, put the filters so your
sleeping area is as calm as possible. If you have a filter next to your
head, you are going to get a magnetic field and audio frequency
harmonics near you which is not good.
Have them at least across the room if not down the hall.
If the filters whine or make squealing sounds, they are overloaded and
more need to be put on that wire to bring the "noise" down. I recommend
using the Quantum Conditioners Power Strip or buy Stetzer's power
strip which works well in reducing the harmonics and smooths out the
waves quite well.
Andrew

On Jun 3, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Laidback wrote:

Andrew McAfee

Re: Stetzer Filters

I would put filters in outlets that are further than 3 or 4 feet but
that is up to you.
In my measurements and advice from Charles Keen, it is better to have
the conductive pad under the bed so the electrical fields are drawn to
it and not you.
Test the metal frame to see how much current is flowing through it by
testing yourself and then touching it.
Andrew
On Jun 3, 2006, at 7:07 PM, Laidback wrote:

> I have outlets about 3 and 4 feet from the bed. How is that?
>
> I have a conductive pad that is grounded.
>
> I have a foam mattress but a metal frame underneath it.
>
> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Like I've said before, be sure you have a gauss meter that measures
> magnetic fields so when you put the filters in you can check if the
> magnetic fields get worse alone the wire or near your bed. If they get
> worse, there is a neutral wire problem which can be fixed.
> The harmonics are being shorted back onto the neutral wire and it'll
> overload the wire if not connected properly with the other neutrals.
> Charles Keen is the expert that taught me about this.
> Charles Keen
> EMF Services
> www.emfservices.com
> 888-840-0668
> .
> So if there are no problems with your neutrals, put the filters so your
> sleeping area is as calm as possible. If you have a filter next to your
> head, you are going to get a magnetic field and audio frequency
> harmonics near you which is not good.
> Have them at least across the room if not down the hall.
> If the filters whine or make squealing sounds, they are overloaded and
> more need to be put on that wire to bring the "noise" down. I recommend
> using the Quantum Conditioners Power Strip or buy Stetzer's power
> strip which works well in reducing the harmonics and smooths out the
> waves quite well.
> Andrew
>
> On Jun 3, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Laidback wrote:
>
>> Why not sleep by the filters and how do you define "near?"
>>
>> If i am going to spend $600 i would like to know how much stetzer
>> filters helped the people here on this list. Is it worth it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Put filters near the breaker box to eliminate outside frequencies
>> and
>> then experience with the rest of the house near the appliances. Don't
>> sleep near the filters and I recommend turning the power off to the
>> room where you sleep.
>> Get a body voltage meter and test to see how much voltage is running
>> through you in bed. Less that 50 millivolts is the goal. I had 7 volts
>> running through me once. There may be wires running underneath your
>> floor or in the wall that spill electrical fields over you.
>> I recommend getting rid of the wire spring mattress and bed and sleep
>> on a natural latex foam or organic cotton futon.
>> good luck.
>> Andrew
>> On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Laidback wrote:
>>
>>> I rent my house so I don't know if I can make changes like that. I
>>> don't now what A and B phase are. Where does the power enter, is that
>>> the fuse box? There there outlets abotu sex feet away from the box,
>>> and one has a lower reading, like 200, the others have the average of
>>> around 500, but those fluctuation. Maybe I can try to do it with the
>>> 20 filters. I may move in a year so i can take the filters with me,
>>> unlike the fixed changes.
>>>
>>> So is this wire noise often the main thing?
>>> I have also grounded my bed and office chair and keep a distance
>>> from some things in the bedroom and office. I wonder how much my food
>>> is effected in the refrigerator. I don't use the top shelf under the
>>> motor.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> If you are in a house, have an electrician install two outlets off
>>> of
>>> where your power comes into your house, one off the A Phase and one
>>> off
>>> the B phase side. Install filters there and that will be the most
>>> efficient way of lowering the outside frequencies from your
>>> neighbor's
>>> dimmer switches, appliances, etc. Then you are left with what you are
>>> creating in the house with your equipment and other radiation
>>> radiating
>>> with the wires.
>>> Sometimes the numbers drop easily and quickly with only a few filters
>>> and in some places you'll need two power strips full of filters to
>>> get
>>> it down to 50. There are many variables.
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Laidback wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if 600-1400 reading are than the filters can handle. The
>>>> 1400
>>>> is the power strips for this computer. 600 in most walls, some as
>>>> low
>>>> as 200. I might need an electrician.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage
>>>> 400-1500+
>>>> (the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a
>>>> lot
>>>> of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now
>>>> around
>>>> 5-20.
>>>> Andrew
>>>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 PM, sctdh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and took
>>>>> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and
>>>>> over
>>>>> 50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
>>>>> might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
>>>>> that typical?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Stetzer Filters

I can't have any filters in my bedroom by that standard.

The purpose of the pad is to ground my body. I measure the electrical current in my body and it drops when i am on the pad. With the power off the current drops even more if i unplug the pad, so that means a very small amount of current comes in from the earth.

As it turns out, I can't afford the filters right now. I also still want to hear what difference they make for everyone.

I never found the stetzer power strip, only the quantum. What is the difference?

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would put filters in outlets that are further than 3 or 4 feet but
that is up to you.
In my measurements and advice from Charles Keen, it is better to have
the conductive pad under the bed so the electrical fields are drawn to
it and not you.
Test the metal frame to see how much current is flowing through it by
testing yourself and then touching it.
Andrew
On Jun 3, 2006, at 7:07 PM, Laidback wrote:

Andrew McAfee

Re: Stetzer Filters

The best is to have the power off when you sleep and no pad in my
opinion.
Call Stetzer and they will tell you about their power strip. I don't
know the difference.
Andrew
On Jun 4, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Laidback wrote:

> I can't have any filters in my bedroom by that standard.
>
> The purpose of the pad is to ground my body. I measure the
> electrical current in my body and it drops when i am on the pad. With
> the power off the current drops even more if i unplug the pad, so that
> means a very small amount of current comes in from the earth.
>
> As it turns out, I can't afford the filters right now. I also still
> want to hear what difference they make for everyone.
>
> I never found the stetzer power strip, only the quantum. What is the
> difference?
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I would put filters in outlets that are further than 3 or 4 feet but
> that is up to you.
> In my measurements and advice from Charles Keen, it is better to have
> the conductive pad under the bed so the electrical fields are drawn to
> it and not you.
> Test the metal frame to see how much current is flowing through it by
> testing yourself and then touching it.
> Andrew
> On Jun 3, 2006, at 7:07 PM, Laidback wrote:
>
>> I have outlets about 3 and 4 feet from the bed. How is that?
>>
>> I have a conductive pad that is grounded.
>>
>> I have a foam mattress but a metal frame underneath it.
>>
>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Like I've said before, be sure you have a gauss meter that measures
>> magnetic fields so when you put the filters in you can check if the
>> magnetic fields get worse alone the wire or near your bed. If they get
>> worse, there is a neutral wire problem which can be fixed.
>> The harmonics are being shorted back onto the neutral wire and it'll
>> overload the wire if not connected properly with the other neutrals.
>> Charles Keen is the expert that taught me about this.
>> Charles Keen
>> EMF Services
>> www.emfservices.com
>> 888-840-0668
>> .
>> So if there are no problems with your neutrals, put the filters so
>> your
>> sleeping area is as calm as possible. If you have a filter next to
>> your
>> head, you are going to get a magnetic field and audio frequency
>> harmonics near you which is not good.
>> Have them at least across the room if not down the hall.
>> If the filters whine or make squealing sounds, they are overloaded and
>> more need to be put on that wire to bring the "noise" down. I
>> recommend
>> using the Quantum Conditioners Power Strip or buy Stetzer's power
>> strip which works well in reducing the harmonics and smooths out the
>> waves quite well.
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Laidback wrote:
>>
>>> Why not sleep by the filters and how do you define "near?"
>>>
>>> If i am going to spend $600 i would like to know how much stetzer
>>> filters helped the people here on this list. Is it worth it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Put filters near the breaker box to eliminate outside frequencies
>>> and
>>> then experience with the rest of the house near the appliances. Don't
>>> sleep near the filters and I recommend turning the power off to the
>>> room where you sleep.
>>> Get a body voltage meter and test to see how much voltage is running
>>> through you in bed. Less that 50 millivolts is the goal. I had 7
>>> volts
>>> running through me once. There may be wires running underneath your
>>> floor or in the wall that spill electrical fields over you.
>>> I recommend getting rid of the wire spring mattress and bed and sleep
>>> on a natural latex foam or organic cotton futon.
>>> good luck.
>>> Andrew
>>> On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Laidback wrote:
>>>
>>>> I rent my house so I don't know if I can make changes like that. I
>>>> don't now what A and B phase are. Where does the power enter, is
>>>> that
>>>> the fuse box? There there outlets abotu sex feet away from the box,
>>>> and one has a lower reading, like 200, the others have the average
>>>> of
>>>> around 500, but those fluctuation. Maybe I can try to do it with the
>>>> 20 filters. I may move in a year so i can take the filters with me,
>>>> unlike the fixed changes.
>>>>
>>>> So is this wire noise often the main thing?
>>>> I have also grounded my bed and office chair and keep a distance
>>>> from some things in the bedroom and office. I wonder how much my
>>>> food
>>>> is effected in the refrigerator. I don't use the top shelf under the
>>>> motor.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> If you are in a house, have an electrician install two outlets off
>>>> of
>>>> where your power comes into your house, one off the A Phase and one
>>>> off
>>>> the B phase side. Install filters there and that will be the most
>>>> efficient way of lowering the outside frequencies from your
>>>> neighbor's
>>>> dimmer switches, appliances, etc. Then you are left with what you
>>>> are
>>>> creating in the house with your equipment and other radiation
>>>> radiating
>>>> with the wires.
>>>> Sometimes the numbers drop easily and quickly with only a few
>>>> filters
>>>> and in some places you'll need two power strips full of filters to
>>>> get
>>>> it down to 50. There are many variables.
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Laidback wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if 600-1400 reading are than the filters can handle. The
>>>>> 1400
>>>>> is the power strips for this computer. 600 in most walls, some as
>>>>> low
>>>>> as 200. I might need an electrician.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> I have readings like that at work in a concert hall backstage
>>>>> 400-1500+
>>>>> (the meter blacks out). In my house it was up to 200. I have done a
>>>>> lot
>>>>> of work on the wiring and have filters installed and it is now
>>>>> around
>>>>> 5-20.
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 PM, sctdh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got my meter for high frequency noise on the wiring and
>>>>>> took
>>>>>> some readings. They say ideally readings should be under 25 and
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> 50 is a problem. My readings are between 600 and 1400. It seems i
>>>>>> might have a problem. Have other people had readings this high, is
>>>>>> that typical?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
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