Hello,
some time ago we had discussions about the Spectran meters of Aaronia. Gigahertz Solutions had placed a study about that on their website, but this is all in german, and a number of members here have difficulty with the german language. In the mean time, the german group of the Buergerwelle did also some tests and published them on their website, but also in german. Now they have translated this into english, which I now announce here. Attached find please "Myth and reality: High-frequency measuring instruments test" http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/test_high_frequency_measuring_instruments.pdf If the information is important for you, we would be grateful if you could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your website. If you have any comments please send it to [hidden email] Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus |
Hello, I disagree with Mr. Claessens. The Spectrans (Aaronia) work. The proof is now on the Aaronia website. The first independent and well performed test by an official SAR test-laboratory for the Spectran that I read, from the highly known CETECOM ICT. (a report by Aaronia showing the errors in the Buergerwelle test, will also follow according the Aaronia). The complete CETECOM report (in English) can be downloaded from http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml Or in German, via http://www.elektrosmog.de/Spectran_Gutachten.htm#g1 Some of the conclusions from CETECOM: In 1.1.1. " The Spectrum Analyzer HF-2025E showed a sufficient measurement accuracy during the measurements of RMS-signal strength of pulsed and unpulsed signals as required by EMF-test specifications. It can therefore be applied for EMCE measurements of all tested signal types..." So, you could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your website. I am the owner of a Spectran HF-6080, and I can indeed make good measurements from the individual GSM, UMTS, etc. bands. Best regards, Joris Everaert Biologist. Belgium --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Hello, > > some time ago we had discussions about the Spectran meters of Aaronia. > Gigahertz Solutions had placed a study about that on their website, but this > is all in german, and a number of members here have difficulty with the > german language. > > In the mean time, the german group of the Buergerwelle did also some tests > and published them on their website, but also in german. > Now they have translated this into english, which I now announce here. > > Attached find please "Myth and reality: High-frequency measuring > instruments test" > http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/test_high_frequency_measuring_instrume nts.pdf > > > If the information is important for you, we would be grateful if you > could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your website. > > If you have any comments please send it to pr@... > > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > |
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Please advise where I can purchase the spectrans mentioned in the above
email. Peg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
--- In [hidden email], pegpare9@... wrote:
> > Please advise where I can purchase the spectrans mentioned in the above > email. Peg > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Just look at: http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml |
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Hello,
let me say this: Hold your breath for a while. This fairytale has not been closed yet. New developments in this soap will come in a few days. The quality of the Spectrans did not change overnight, so the earlier remarks are still valid. It is like *the Bold and the Beautifull* or *the big, the bad and the ugly*. Every week a new episode. Mr. Everaert is a nice person and a fine biologist. But he is not a specialist in measuring equipment. If a meter shows different *house numbers*, that does not mean that those measurements are correct. So we wait what the experts have to say. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joris Everaert" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 22:46 Subject: [eSens] Re: Spectrans > > Hello, > > I disagree with Mr. Claessens. The Spectrans (Aaronia) work. > > The proof is now on the Aaronia website. The first independent and > well performed test by an official SAR test-laboratory for the > Spectran that I read, from the highly known CETECOM ICT. > (a report by Aaronia showing the errors in the Buergerwelle test, > will also follow according the Aaronia). > > The complete CETECOM report (in English) can be downloaded from > http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml > > Or in German, via > http://www.elektrosmog.de/Spectran_Gutachten.htm#g1 > > Some of the conclusions from CETECOM: > In 1.1.1. > ".The Spectrum Analyzer HF-2025E showed a sufficient measurement > accuracy during the measurements of RMS-signal strength of pulsed > and unpulsed signals as required by EMF-test specifications. It can > therefore be applied for EMCE measurements of all tested signal > types..." > > > So, you could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your > website. > > I am the owner of a Spectran HF-6080, and I can indeed make good > measurements from the individual GSM, UMTS, etc. bands. > > Best regards, > Joris Everaert > Biologist. > Belgium > > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> some time ago we had discussions about the Spectran meters of > Aaronia. >> Gigahertz Solutions had placed a study about that on their > website, but this >> is all in german, and a number of members here have difficulty > with the >> german language. >> >> In the mean time, the german group of the Buergerwelle did also > some tests >> and published them on their website, but also in german. >> Now they have translated this into english, which I now announce > here. >> >> Attached find please "Myth and reality: High-frequency measuring >> instruments test" >> > http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/test_high_frequency_measuring_instrume > nts.pdf >> >> >> If the information is important for you, we would be grateful if > you >> could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your > website. >> >> If you have any comments please send it to pr@... >> >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Norton Antivirus >> > |
--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
> > Hello, > > let me say this: Hold your breath for a while. > > This fairytale has not been closed yet. > New developments in this soap will come in a few days. > > The quality of the Spectrans did not change overnight, so the earlier > remarks are still valid. > > It is like *the Bold and the Beautifull* or *the big, the bad and > Every week a new episode. > > Mr. Everaert is a nice person and a fine biologist. > But he is not a specialist in measuring equipment. > > If a meter shows different *house numbers*, that does not mean that those > measurements are correct. > > So we wait what the experts have to say. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus The EXPERTS! mr. claessens say that the Spectran meet ALL requirements. And if those experts from CETECOM says the earth is flat it IS flat ;-) No other experts can measure it better. What ever you or your "experts" will try to "prove" now, its not true or the test is simply done wrong, just as the Bürgerwelle did it totaly wrong. Sorry but the game is over! |
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Yes, Charles, I am indeed no technical expert. But for me, the CETECOM test is the first test that I see from an official EMC testing labo, and these experts say it works.. I just wanted to bring up the new information, and will be very interested in following discussions. Best regards, Joris Everaert --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Hello, > > let me say this: Hold your breath for a while. > > This fairytale has not been closed yet. > New developments in this soap will come in a few days. > > The quality of the Spectrans did not change overnight, so the earlier > remarks are still valid. > > It is like *the Bold and the Beautifull* or *the big, the bad and the ugly*. > Every week a new episode. > > Mr. Everaert is a nice person and a fine biologist. > But he is not a specialist in measuring equipment. > > If a meter shows different *house numbers*, that does not mean that those > measurements are correct. > > So we wait what the experts have to say. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joris Everaert" <joris.everaert@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 22:46 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Spectrans > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I disagree with Mr. Claessens. The Spectrans (Aaronia) work. > > > > The proof is now on the Aaronia website. The first independent > > well performed test by an official SAR test-laboratory for the > > Spectran that I read, from the highly known CETECOM ICT. > > (a report by Aaronia showing the errors in the Buergerwelle test, > > will also follow according the Aaronia). > > > > The complete CETECOM report (in English) can be downloaded from > > http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml > > > > Or in German, via > > http://www.elektrosmog.de/Spectran_Gutachten.htm#g1 > > > > Some of the conclusions from CETECOM: > > In 1.1.1. > > ".The Spectrum Analyzer HF-2025E showed a sufficient measurement > > accuracy during the measurements of RMS-signal strength of pulsed > > and unpulsed signals as required by EMF-test specifications. It > > therefore be applied for EMCE measurements of all tested signal > > types..." > > > > > > So, you could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your > > website. > > > > I am the owner of a Spectran HF-6080, and I can indeed make good > > measurements from the individual GSM, UMTS, etc. bands. > > > > Best regards, > > Joris Everaert > > Biologist. > > Belgium > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> some time ago we had discussions about the Spectran meters of > > Aaronia. > >> Gigahertz Solutions had placed a study about that on their > > website, but this > >> is all in german, and a number of members here have difficulty > > with the > >> german language. > >> > >> In the mean time, the german group of the Buergerwelle did also > > some tests > >> and published them on their website, but also in german. > >> Now they have translated this into english, which I now announce > > here. > >> > >> Attached find please "Myth and reality: High-frequency measuring > >> instruments test" > >> > > > > nts.pdf > >> > >> > >> If the information is important for you, we would be grateful if > > you > >> could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your > > website. > >> > >> If you have any comments please send it to pr@ > >> > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Charles Claessens > >> member Verband Baubiologie > >> www.milieuziektes.nl > >> www.milieuziektes.be > >> www.hetbitje.nl > >> checked by Norton Antivirus > >> > > > |
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Deception and misleading by the CETECOM
Test report of the CETECOM for Aaronia exposed. http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/statement_to_cetecom.pdf Best regards, Klaus Rudolph Citizens' Initiative Omega http://omega.twoday.net/ Member of the Buergerwelle Germany (incorporated society) Protectorate Union of the Citizens and Initiatives for the Protection against Electrosmog http://www.buergerwelle.de/ charles schrieb: > Hello, > > let me say this: Hold your breath for a while. > > This fairytale has not been closed yet. > New developments in this soap will come in a few days. > > The quality of the Spectrans did not change overnight, so the earlier > remarks are still valid. > > It is like *the Bold and the Beautifull* or *the big, the bad and the > ugly*. > Every week a new episode. > > Mr. Everaert is a nice person and a fine biologist. > But he is not a specialist in measuring equipment. > > If a meter shows different *house numbers*, that does not mean that those > measurements are correct. > > So we wait what the experts have to say. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joris Everaert" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 22:46 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Spectrans > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I disagree with Mr. Claessens. The Spectrans (Aaronia) work. > > > > The proof is now on the Aaronia website. The first independent and > > well performed test by an official SAR test-laboratory for the > > Spectran that I read, from the highly known CETECOM ICT. > > (a report by Aaronia showing the errors in the Buergerwelle test, > > will also follow according the Aaronia). > > > > The complete CETECOM report (in English) can be downloaded from > > http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml > > > > Or in German, via > > http://www.elektrosmog.de/Spectran_Gutachten.htm#g1 > > > > Some of the conclusions from CETECOM: > > In 1.1.1. > > ".The Spectrum Analyzer HF-2025E showed a sufficient measurement > > accuracy during the measurements of RMS-signal strength of pulsed > > and unpulsed signals as required by EMF-test specifications. It can > > therefore be applied for EMCE measurements of all tested signal > > types..." > > > > > > So, you could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your > > website. > > > > I am the owner of a Spectran HF-6080, and I can indeed make good > > measurements from the individual GSM, UMTS, etc. bands. > > > > Best regards, > > Joris Everaert > > Biologist. > > Belgium > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> some time ago we had discussions about the Spectran meters of > > Aaronia. > >> Gigahertz Solutions had placed a study about that on their > > website, but this > >> is all in german, and a number of members here have difficulty > > with the > >> german language. > >> > >> In the mean time, the german group of the Buergerwelle did also > > some tests > >> and published them on their website, but also in german. > >> Now they have translated this into english, which I now announce > > here. > >> > >> Attached find please "Myth and reality: High-frequency measuring > >> instruments test" > >> > > http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/test_high_frequency_measuring_instrume > > nts.pdf > >> > >> > >> If the information is important for you, we would be grateful if > > you > >> could pass it on and if possible, make a link to it on your > > website. > >> > >> If you have any comments please send it to pr@... > >> > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Charles Claessens > >> member Verband Baubiologie > >> www.milieuziektes.nl > >> www.milieuziektes.be > >> www.hetbitje.nl > >> checked by Norton Antivirus > >> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Health and wellness > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness&w1=Health+and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=lYI8B8UF6O4ROok_KpWbMQ> > Health wellness product > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+wellness+product&w1=Health+and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=7FG7KpKu_ab8sI-sfGXbBw> > Health and wellness program > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+program&w1=Health+and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=SdRoxwZKC3KlEgk4EdZDpQ> > > Health promotion and wellness > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w1=Health+and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=2N5rUTc4fwFZmwqyTa-mLw> > Health and wellness promotion > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w1=Health+and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=TWFLmBa9J_P4FmW0xiOmnw> > Business health wellness > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Business+health+wellness&w1=Health+and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=cq8JlfksEGFMRzKQ0DoSOA> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! 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