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Jinna

Smartmeter killing a shrub

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https://youtu.be/lsuP_WBBr2c

Can this be true?

A short video showing a shrub dying after smart meter installation.

ED.vs.EMR

Re: Smartmeter killing a shrub

I think it's true because I've seen photos of the tops of green trees turning brown that were next to, or in the immediate path of, celltowers.

Also recall the "science experiment" by those 9th grade schoolgirls from a few years ago, I think in the UK or Denmark(?), during which they set a pot of seedlings next to the wifi routers in their classroom & the seedlings turned brown & would not grow. The girls won an award for their "experiment." It made headlines.

Wifi, celltowers, SmartMeters, all emit the same MWR (Microwave Radiation) so it would make sense that a SmartMeter could also kill a shrub.

HTH!

PS:

My Error: I did not mean to/intend to start a separate thread with the same subject earlier last night. Sorry about that! So I deleted this one:

http://es-forum.com/Re-Smartmeter-killing-a-shrug-td4032234.html

I thought I was "Replying" (via email) to Jinna's thread here:

http://es-forum.com/Smartmeter-killing-a-shrub-td4032225.html

I think the URL & title was updated & I had replied to an earlier emailed version, so maybe that's what "confused" Nabble(?) :)

Anyway, sorry for any confusion!

/EDvsEMR

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sailplane

Re: Smartmeter killing a shrub

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Jinna wrote

https://youtu.be/lsuP_WBBr2c

Can this be true?

A short video showing a shrub dying after smart meter installation.

I've looked around my area and I don't see and clear indication that smart meters here do any damage to plants growing around them. I see trees dying around cell towers though, and a European study has confirmed that towers do injure trees.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27552133

earthworm

Re: Smartmeter killing a shrub

Some smart-meters emit much more frequently than others, depending on the country and possibly the region as well.
Apart from wireless smart-meters there is also the PLC-system ( e.g. in France it is rolled out ) which transmits over the powerlines and also causes dirty electricity but no RF.
In parts of the U.S.A. the neutral wire goes into the ground, in which case dirty electricty ( or in fact all electricity ) becomes even a bigger problem, and certainly trees will be anything but grateful for being attacked in that manner as well.

Jinna

Re: Smartmeter killing a shrub

I just came back from Belgium.

The local countryside paper had an article about smart meters!! They are coming to Belgium too.

They wrote that smart meters only send VERY LITTLE radiation.

the shape is very different from the US (not round, but square).

As though we did not have enough problems.

I wonder if people could not say NO with the excuse that they do not want their data to be public (like what they use, when, how much etc).

As far as I understood, the data collected from smart meters will give the profile of what you do, when, for how long, they can say which device you are using, when it is on, off etc.

Isn't that pretty invasive? Wouldn't it be easy to simply decline or make the company take it off on grounds of privacy protection?

ED.vs.EMR

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Update: The Denmark schoolgirls' wifi vs. seedlings experiment/article I mentioned previously/below was originally at Intellihub back in 2013. Archive.org still has a copy:

"Ninth-grade Science Project finds Plants Don't Grow near WiFi":

http://web.archive.org/web/20130801065550/http://intellihub.com/2013/07/28/9th-grade-science-project-finds-plants-dont-grow-near-wi-fi

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ED.vs.EMR

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Re the Belgium articles re "Very Little" radiation from Smart Meters > that's what they ALL say.

If you pressed the utility on it, they would probably add something like so:

"The Smart Meters only transmit data (while radiating) to us for a few seconds, a few times a day." (Hence, their "very little" line.)

It's a semantics game. They do not tell the public the full story.

In the below video, the producer Josh del Sol visits Dr. David O. Carpenter at the University of Albany, NY. While driving there in the rain, Josh says the reality is that utilities have admitted in official settings (lawsuits, PUC hearings, etc.) that the SMs actually transmit MWR pulses up to 90,000 times a day.

Then in person, a short quote to Josh by Dr. Carpenter says it all. It went something like this:

"IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY TIMES the Smart Meter communicates WITH THE UTILITY. WHAT MATTERS IS: HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT TRANSMIT MWR PULSES!!!"

It's a brief but powerful piece of video. Send it to the Belgium newspaper &/or utility & see what they say THEN. :)

Reference:

--2017 slightly updated version of the 2013 "Take Back Your [Electric] Power" documentary, free to view at Mercola site:

"Must-See Documentary Reveals Dangers of Smart Meters":

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/08/05/smart-meter-dangers.aspx

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Jinna

Re: Smartmeter killing a shrub

You're totally right.

There are quite a few videos in youtube showing how strong are the pulses, and they happen every 5 -10 seconds. Non stop, day and night, 365 days a year.

If it only sent 5 pulses a day, the shrubs would NOT die, the bees would not go away never to return, people would not get so ill...

Why do we need smartmeters?

I find it first, an invasion of privacy.

Second: I hate the idea of someone else (specially a COMPANY) telling me what to do (I already shut all devices off, cut off the circuit breaker of my bedroom, etc etc).

Why do I need a company to know what I am doing every day, and telling me I should do OTHERWISE?

Even if smart meters were harmless: NO THANK you. I don't need this kind of help.

If they do that, without my consent, even if the house is rented, I would ask them to pull it off.

If they don't, as they are outside, I would say 'vandalism' occurred and someone broke it in the night.

Then put some barrier on the place, concrete it on the wall, so that they won't have any way to install it again.

If they do it again, I'll repeat the operation.

If a person outside comes to hurt you - and tell it's good for you - would you just shut up and let the person hurt you and everyone living in your house?

No way.

That is what they are doing with their smart solutions!