Silver lined clothes?

In a message dated 7/14/2008 3:10:32 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

You mean once radiations are grounded they can erupt elsewhere? Don't
they just go deeper into the earth and get recycled into something
harmless? I thought that was the purpose of a grounding rod.

Kathy

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In my experience earth locally you will get it broadcast back locally the
earth cable needs to be full shielded and the earthling rod or better still
rods, should be well away from your vicinity. We also have the problem whne
earthing not to bring in unwanted RF energies from elsewhere ie from someone
else`s earthing system such as HAM radio etc,,
See how you feel ES does not lie or give you respite for nothing.
puk






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In a message dated 7/14/2008 10:58:42 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

When you walk thru a forest, do you feel
> better or worse? I feel better, personally.

When I walk through a forest, I usually get
allergies... :-)

Marc


Be careful of the big bad wolf to !






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Hi, Paul and Marc,
 
Nah!  This little Red Riding Hood just carries a big stick and her inhaler (and epi-pen).  lol
;)
 
Diane

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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] forest
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 5:54 PM







In a message dated 7/14/2008 10:58:42 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
marc@ufoseries. com writes:

When you walk thru a forest, do you feel
> better or worse? I feel better, personally.

When I walk through a forest, I usually get
allergies... :-)

Marc

Be careful of the big bad wolf to !

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In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:55:36 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hi, Paul and Marc,

Nah! This little Red Riding Hood just carries a big stick and her inhaler
(and epi-pen). lol
;)

Diane



I reckon your good humour is one of your greatest defences against life
raining down the occasional dead donkey - cheers Paul






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Hi, Maureen,
 
Yes, trees help me only with shielding outside power lines, cell or microwave towers, or transformers.  They do not help with in-house problems oremfs caused by dirty electricity or fan motors, etc.  They are much like using aluminum foil.  They have to be placed correctly or they will not shield at all.  But I like to use them because they really make the yard more peaceful from everything: traffic noises and smells, barking dogs, prying eyes, emfs....  you name it, trees seem to help absorb and shield it.  And trees grow and shield much quicker than most give them credit for.  They even help I think with some of the vibrational frequencies that bother me.
 
Re 77 towers, etc--yes, really excessive, don't you think?!?  We finally bought a house in a small town where there are 5 towers--I think 2 are microwaves, but all are over 3 miles away.  I looked for 2 1/2 years to find this!  Couldn't find a house in all that time that was mold-free, pesticide-free, +/or ES free anywhere within a 100 mile radius!  We almost bought a house a year ago in a town with only 3 towers, but then we found out that the area was slated for a large garbage treatment plant.  (Of course, locate it in the only clean area around!)  We were amazed that evenin the country away from everything, it was often as bad or worse than thetowns!  There the towers are much stronger frequencies.  It never occurred to me that finding a house would be so difficult.  I joked to a friend that I was going to move to Amish country and she (who lives closer to Amish country) replied that I could forget that....  she knew an Amish farmer
who just leased his grain silo out to a cell phone company for a tower site!  That beats all, doesn't it? 
 
Hope things are better for you and the people (not) in the house next to yours are quiet, es-wise, now.  
 
Thanks, Maureen;  
Diane
  


----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi, Maureen,

I can't refute or support anything you say here. I am not schooled in thesesubjects. I only know that trees shield me. They might not work for everyone and they don't always work 100% for me. Do I feel a difference behind one? I surely do. When I was looking for a new home, I was amazed how I couldwalk thru the yards of houses we were considering and be completely fine, only to come to a gap in the landscaping and get an immediate headache. There are probably reasons why trees work for me and not you. There are areas I go to where trees do not help, as well. These are areas where there are many close towers all over the place in a several mile radius. (One such town has 77 cell towers and nearly 100 microwave towers--no amount of trees help me there!) But in most of the areas I am in, trees do shield enough for me to be comfortable, because they are between me and only 1 or 2 towers.

Diane


----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi Kathy,

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfsand microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one treeshields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft,not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself. My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, youwill want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy














     

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Lolololol, Paul, 
 
I reckon you'd be correct.  (And reckon you use a bit of that yourself,eh?) 
 
Diane
 


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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] forest
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 4:34 PM







In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:55:36 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
evie15422@yahoo. com writes:

Hi, Paul and Marc,

Nah! This little Red Riding Hood just carries a big stick and her inhaler
(and epi-pen). lol
;)

Diane

I reckon your good humour is one of your greatest defences against life
raining down the occasional dead donkey - cheers Paul

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Hi again, Maureen,
 
I am almost the opposite--I can share with my family/friends far away, but not the close ones.  My local relatives are all very close-minded, provincial people.  My son in NYC and relatives out West are all very progressive minded.  They have no problem understanding what I am struggling with.  You should try talking about it with your family some.  You mightfind they are more open than you think.  My son read an article on another woman in Texas with ES.  He was stunned because he knew I had a problem, but didn't know how profoundly it affected me because I had never told him.  It opened up the entire subject for us and now we discuss possible helps for me and all sorts of things that might or might not have to do withES--solar flares, for instance, and body polarity, when he calls.  He isa really out-of-the-box thinker.  He comes up with all sorts of new spins on things.  I have been accused of this myself, but he can make me sound
completely normal by comparison.  lol
 
I used to have the problem with staying awake also, but I really think thatwas due to not enough exercise and movement on my part and/or too littlevit D.  (Vit D may play a part because I really notice this in the wintertime when I don't get out enough.)  I found that when I made a habit of frequenting parks for walking that my sleepiness went away after awhile (at first, I wanted to sleep as soon as I arrived back home!  I was reallysleepy!)  I find that if I miss my walks for several days that I endup falling asleep when I sit down and am quiet.  But if I go out fora walk at least every other day, I am not as apt to fall asleep when I am sitting down.  I swear sometimes I can even feel my blood coagulating--it feels almost like my blood stops moving in my body from being too sedate.  Of course I know that isn't actually what is happening, but that is what it feels like.  I need to work alot sitting down, so I try sitting on the
sofa with my feet propped up and I set a timer to remind me to break, asI can work for hours without moving if I am not interrupted.  Then at least if I do fall asleep I wake up when I hear the timer go off.  :)   
 
Sorry to hear you are still having such bad days.  Is there anywhere you can go for some peace?  I can imagine what you look like!  You are a cute martian, btw!  lol  ;)
 
Thank you, dear, re wishing me success in my new home.  I hope we can allfind peace from ES very soon,
Diane 



----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi, Maureen,

Yes, trees help me only with shielding outside power lines, cell or microwave towers, or transformers. They do not help with in-house problems or emfscaused by dirty electricity or fan motors, etc. They are much like using aluminum foil. They have to be placed correctly or they will not shield at all. But I like to use them because they really make the yard more peaceful from everything: traffic noises and smells, barking dogs, prying eyes, emfs.... you name it, trees seem to help absorb and shield it. And trees grow and shield much quicker than most give them credit for. They even help I think with some of the vibrational frequencies that bother me.

Re 77 towers, etc--yes, really excessive, don't you think?!? We finally bought a house in a small town where there are 5 towers--I think 2 are microwaves, but all are over 3 miles away. I looked for 2 1/2 years to find this! Couldn't find a house in all that time that was mold-free, pesticide-free, +/or ES free anywhere within a 100 mile radius! We almost bought a house a year ago in a town with only 3 towers, but then we found out that the area was slated for a large garbage treatment plant. (Of course, locate it in the only clean area around!) We were amazed that even in the country away from everything, it was often as bad or worse than the towns! There the towersare much stronger frequencies. It never occurred to me that finding a house would be so difficult. I joked to a friend that I was going to move to Amish country and she (who lives closer to Amish country) replied that I could forget that.... she knew an Amish farmer
who just leased his grain silo out to a cell phone company for a tower site! That beats all, doesn't it?

Hope things are better for you and the people (not) in the house next to yours are quiet, es-wise, now.

Thanks, Maureen;
Diane



----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi, Maureen,

I can't refute or support anything you say here. I am not schooled in thesesubjects. I only know that trees shield me. They might not work for everyone and they don't always work 100% for me. Do I feel a difference behind one? I surely do. When I was looking for a new home, I was amazed how I couldwalk thru the yards of houses we were considering and be completely fine, only to come to a gap in the landscaping and get an immediate headache. There are probably reasons why trees work for me and not you. There are areas I go to where trees do not help, as well. These are areas where there are many close towers all over the place in a several mile radius. (One such town has 77 cell towers and nearly 100 microwave towers--no amount of trees help me there!) But in most of the areas I am in, trees do shield enough for me to be comfortable, because they are between me and only 1 or 2 towers.

Diane


----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi Kathy,

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfsand microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one treeshields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft,not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself. My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, youwill want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

Hallo Evie,

trees are shielding because the water contained in the leafes. In electroacupuncture I could measure that about one inch of water is enough to block out the biological harmful effect of the microwaves of the mobile phone. Measuring this effect in front and behind an apple tree near a mobile station,there was a significant decrease of this harmful effect - 30-50% depending on the size of the tree. Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any metallic shielding. Though they are somewhat modified, which helps a little and gives the illusion that a perfect shielding with metallic material eventually would solve the problem. I have discussed the backgroundof this repeatedly in this list with no response, so i will not repeat myself here.
dietrich










----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 20
08 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi Kathy,

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfsand microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one treeshields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if y
ou are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If youhave the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will needit professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it willbe lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit largerone by yourself. My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, youwill want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno.com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno.com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed20description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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> I have discussed the background of this repeatedly in this list
> with no response, so i will not repeat myself here.

One can read the background of this in an article downloadable
from this page:

http://golden-ray.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=15

Marc

Thanks, Dietrich,
 
That is my experience also (tho I have gone on personal intuition and how things affect me, as I am not a scientist myself).  Thanks for sharing your experiment.  
 
Diane aka Evie 

--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Gruendg@aol.com <Gruendg@aol.com> wrote:

From: Gruendg@aol.com <Gruendg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 2:05 PM






Hallo Evie,

trees are shielding because the water contained in the leafes. In electroacupuncture I could measure that about one inch of water is enough to block out the biological harmful effect of the microwaves of the mobile phone. Measuring this effect in front and behind an apple tree near a mobile station,there was a significant decrease of this harmful effect - 30-50% depending on the size of the tree. Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any metallic shielding. Though they are somewhat modified, which helps a little and gives the illusion that a perfect shielding with metallic material eventually would solve the problem. I have discussed the background ofthis repeatedly in this list with no response, so i will not repeat myselfhere.
dietrich


----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 20
08 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi Kathy,

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfsand microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one treeshields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if y
ou are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If youhave the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will needit professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it willbe lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit largerone by yourself. My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, youwill want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed20descripti on. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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Gruendg wrote:
> Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves >
responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any
> metallic shielding.

I just want to point out that there are others who have ES who have
similarly benefited from silver mesh as you can see from the following
two programs:

http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=157&Itemid=128
regarding Sarah Dacre, and
http://www.robindestoits.org/-Portables,-Wifi-ondes-dangereuses-Emission-66-Minutes-sur-M6-20-05-2008_a348.html

It is so heart-warming to hear about other individuals using silver
mesh and RF detection devices, knowing that I am not alone in this. :)

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > I have discussed the background of this repeatedly in this list
> > with no response, so i will not repeat myself here.
>
> One can read the background of this in an article downloadable
> from this page:
>
>
http://golden-ray.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=15
>
> Marc
>


--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Dietrich,
>  
> That is my experience also (tho I have gone on personal intuition
and how things affect me, as I am not a scientist myself).  Thanks for
sharing your experiment.   electroacupuncture I could measure that about one inch of water is
enough to block out the biological harmful effect of the microwaves of
the mobile phone. Measuring this effect in front and behind an apple
tree near a mobile station, there was a significant decrease of this
harmful effect - 30-50% depending on the size of the tree. Silver
lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves
responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any
metallic shielding. Though they are somewhat modified, which helps a
little and gives the illusion that a perfect shielding with metallic
material eventually would solve the problem. I have discussed the
background of this repeatedly in this list with no response, so i will
not repeat myself here.
> dietrich
>
> Dear Evie
>
> Did you know that fall out shelters were not built near to trees
because the branches and leaves hold the harmful emissions.
>
> And I'm not sure about trees shielding against emf and rf. I had
several huge pines all the way down my yard and used to sit under one
when it was bad but it didn't ease the effects felt from the high emf.
>
> It seems logical that a tree that has its roots deep in the ground
should be an excellent ground but I believe we're dealing with things
outside of the norm of ordinary electricity. full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so
they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much
larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and
others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far
enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are
evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern
magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6
feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one tree shields a
24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I
strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic
noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an
added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.
>
> If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant
evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year,
due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go
on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would
have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as
it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large
trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot
tree (without the rootball) if y
> ou are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people.
If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree
that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball. Any more than that
and you will need it professionally delivered and installed. If it is
an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be
able to plant a bit larger one by yourself. My husband and I have
managed 7ft
> arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches
of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my
magnolia, you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of
your tree, as well. AOL email abrufen. Registrieren Sie sich jetzt kostenlos.

 
A Building Biologist said that trees would block some of the RF from the Cell towers.
 
Loni
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi Kathy,

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfsand microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one treeshields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft,not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself. My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, youwill want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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How about Ficus trees that grow really bushy. I live in AZ, the desert. Loni

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 11:25 AM






Hi Kathy,
 
The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies.  Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do.  Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot.  The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year.  If you live far enough south, magnoliatrees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen.  I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year.  It was over the roof in no time!  This one tree shields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions.  I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.  
 
If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens,as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves.  I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now).  And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition.  I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 otherpeople.  If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball.  Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed.  If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own.  Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.
 
Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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Hi, Loni,
 
Are ficus trees evergreen (leaves all year) where you are?  I have grown ornamental ficus but I do not know how they grow in nature.  If they keeptheir leaves, yes they will shield some.  The more moisture intense a tree's leaves are, tho, probably makes a difference in how well it shields.  But that said, I see great shielding benefits from trees like white pine and magnolia, which on the surface do not seem that moisture intense.  Hmmm, the desert!  You don't have the easiest landscape for using trees as shielding!
 
You can call your state landscaping and farming extention to ask which trees/large shrubs will grow in your area.  If there is a choice, you will also want trees/shrubs that grow quickly and are as large as possible, bothin height and width.  I have used arborvitae which is not very big in diameter (nor tall) in some instances, but that is because I only had a few feet of ground to work with or I was positioning the tree beside a window (to block frequencies that were from the east of a south-east facing window).  If I had had more space, I would have planted something much larger. As to height, one house I looked at that was well shielded, had very tall pines (75+ ft), very closely planted in a zigzag pattern surrounding the house from about 40 to 120 feet away (a large oval yard).  It wasnot confining nor did it create an overly dark yard.  But the height of the tree/shrub you use will determine how far from your house you can placeit.
 
The ficus don't get very tall, do they?  You WILL want a tree/shrub that is at least 5 to 10 feet higher than your house, if you plant it close tothe house.  Even taller if you plant it away from your house.  What you want to consider is the direction of the emfs/magnetic frequencies and the height and angle that they are coming in at and then block these by positioning a fleshy tree between you and the frequencies.  It is not enough to put a squat-low bush in front of your house--even alot of them.  The bush has to physically be between you and the frequency source.
 
Hope the ficus works out for you, Loni,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Loni Rosser <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Trees
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:04 PM






How about Ficus trees that grow really bushy. I live in AZ, the desert. Loni

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 11:25 AM

Hi Kathy,
 
The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies.  Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do.  Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot.  The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year.  If you live far enough south, magnoliatrees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen.  I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year.  It was over the roof in no time!  This one tree shields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions.  I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.  
 
If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens,as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves.  I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now).  And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition.  I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 otherpeople.  If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball.  Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed.  If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own.  Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.
 
Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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Thanks Diane, it will be some time before the trees get big enough anyway. I need shielding now. Loni

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Trees
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 1:02 PM






Hi, Loni,
 
Are ficus trees evergreen (leaves all year) where you are?  I have grown ornamental ficus but I do not know how they grow in nature.  If they keeptheir leaves, yes they will shield some.  The more moisture intense a tree's leaves are, tho, probably makes a difference in how well it shields.  But that said, I see great shielding benefits from trees like white pine and magnolia, which on the surface do not seem that moisture intense.  Hmmm, the desert!  You don't have the easiest landscape for using trees as shielding!
 
You can call your state landscaping and farming extention to ask which trees/large shrubs will grow in your area.  If there is a choice, you will also want trees/shrubs that grow quickly and are as large as possible, bothin height and width.  I have used arborvitae which is not very big in diameter (nor tall) in some instances, but that is because I only had a few feet of ground to work with or I was positioning the tree beside a window (to block frequencies that were from the east of a south-east facing window).  If I had had more space, I would have planted something much larger. As to height, one house I looked at that was well shielded, had very tall pines (75+ ft), very closely planted in a zigzag pattern surrounding the house from about 40 to 120 feet away (a large oval yard).  It wasnot confining nor did it create an overly dark yard.  But the height of the tree/shrub you use will determine how far from your house you can placeit.
 
The ficus don't get very tall, do they?  You WILL want a tree/shrub that is at least 5 to 10 feet higher than your house, if you plant it close tothe house.  Even taller if you plant it away from your house.  What you want to consider is the direction of the emfs/magnetic frequencies and the height and angle that they are coming in at and then block these by positioning a fleshy tree between you and the frequencies.  It is not enough to put a squat-low bush in front of your house--even alot of them.  The bush has to physically be between you and the frequency source.
 
Hope the ficus works out for you, Loni,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Trees
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:04 PM

How about Ficus trees that grow really bushy. I live in AZ, the desert. Loni

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 11:25 AM

Hi Kathy,
 
The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies.  Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do.  Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot.  The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year.  If you live far enough south, magnoliatrees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen.  I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year.  It was over the roof in no time!  This one tree shields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions.  I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.  
 
If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens,as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves.  I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now).  And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition.  I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 otherpeople.  If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball.  Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed.  If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own.  Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.
 
Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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