Silver lined clothes?

A silver garment can protect the parts it covers from microwaves.
But if it's a shirt that stops at the neck, then the field will be
concentrated at the neck or any other opening. So it only
makes sense if you are having symptoms in your chest for instance,
or if you cover your head too.

Some of the garments lose their conductivity after a couple months
of heavy use.

Bill

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:08 PM, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
wrote:


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In a message dated 7/10/2008 1:38:08 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

there so nowhere to hang out for an extended time. Thanks for your
prayer. You are right, even at the worst it is amazing how focusing
on the present and simply being alive... how good that can feel!
Solutions will come


That's the spirit !






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What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>  
> Yes, I use regular aluminum foil from the grocer.  I use the heavy
duty (thicker aluminum) one and also buy the long roll (around 18
inch as opposed to the 12 inch roll). 
>  
> Have you read back thru the archives here?  There was another
discussion on this very subject just last week.  Aluminum foil does
work very well if you can improve or don't mind the asthetics of it. 
But when using aluminum and other metals you have to take into
consideration frequencies bouncing back off of it from electrical
sources inside your room. 
>  
> You are an artist!  (I am a designer.)  You could fashion yourself
an aluminum screen with the aluminum over 2 or 3 wood panels or old
doors hinged together.  (You could overlay the foil over a string
design for an embossed effect and stain the creases with black
paint!  Would be cool!)  Used on both sides over wood panels/doors,
you would then have 2 layers of foil and could move it.  OR better
yet, you could have aluminum on one side and an rf absorbing material
on the opposite, then you wouldn't have a problem with bounce-back
of emfs.  I designed a similar room divider (without the embossing
and rf fabric) made of 4 doors with permanent triangular shelves
(shaped like a W) for plants, that I put on rollers and can move from
room to room when you don't want the divider in place.  The
triangular non-moveable shelves stabilize the system so it can be
easily rolled.  I used foil, in this instance, in the doors' recessed
panels for
> reflecting light back onto plants.  You can often find old doors
at a salvage yard for $10 or so (or sometimes for free from
neighbors!)  The absorbing fabric would be expensive, but you could
start out with aluminum on one or both sides and then go to the
fabric if you aren't satisfied with how the aluminum is working re
bounce-back.
>  
> There are many things you can use and perhaps using more than one
item would work better than hanging your hat on just one particular
fix.  For instance, in my house I am fixing up, I am planning to
shield from 2 cell towers in front by planting 7 strategically
placed white pine/cryptomeria trees, one strategically placed
arborvitae, using window film inside the windows, using a metal
window screen outside, and I am making drapery panels which I plan
to back with an rf absorber fabric which I can draw closed as
needed.   In addition, I am placing a couple indoor plants in front
of one window in the livingroom which will shield the particular
chair I will usually be sitting on.  For my bedroom, if these fixes
don't get it, I plan to make an enclosed garden off the bedroom (an L-
shaped enclosure in an existing L-shaped alcove on the end of the
house) using Hardee plank, which is a high absorption siding
material.  This is an idea I'd like
> to do either way, but since money is a factor, it is not on the
top of my list of fixes (and will likely not make it into my budget
or will have to wait about another decade).  lol 
>  
> I don't consider myself particularly knowledgeable in the area of
shielding, so there are probably alot of other ideas others here have
come up with besides these.  What I am doing might sound like
overkill, but none of it is highly expensive and it can be done one
fix at a time.  I am starting with the trees (because they will also
shield my yard) and metal screens, and will add from there as
needed.  painful.  The
> pain from a stainless steel bracelet that I wore once in direct
line
> from a cell tower made me feel like I had arthritis all over, very
> nauseous, and burned my skin where I was wearing it.  I took it off
> and my wrist was red.
> >  
> > What Marc says is true--metal seems to attract the emfs, which
can
> be good if they are attracted away from you.  On the other hand,
what mesh
> fabric or clothing is very expensive and if something else that I
can
> buy locally for a fraction of the cost will work I think maybe I'll
> try that.
> Since the strongest microwaves are coming from the cell mast
> about a block away I have wondered if I can shield the wall in that
> direction. I spend most of my time in the same place at a table
doing
> artwork and if most of the radation is coming from one direction
and
> I could work in the shadow of a shield that might feel better than
> wearing something. I also want shielding while I sleep. I have
> thought it might be worth the investment for silver mesh fabric
5'x6'
> and I could shield the wall in the daytime and either put this on
the
> bed (which is on the ground) or hang it in between me and the cell
> mast while I sleep. There are actually two masts and they aren't
very
> tall... about 90 feet. They are in a baseball park disguised as the
> tall light poles. There are other towers and antenna in other
> directions but not nearly so close.
> Also do the grahmn stetzer filters have any effect on cell tower
> radiation. And would the Q-link be of any help. It is so awkward to
> have so many options online and to not know which might actually
help

It's so nice that there is at least some things we can do that don't
cost any money and that can be helpful. A waterfall sounds wonderful.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Spiral...
>  
> I am doing similar things!  I spend alot of time outdoors in pine
groves, sitting to ground myself--base of spinal cord on ground.  I
have been trying to find info regarding the polarity of the body and
how it reacts with the Earth's gravity.  I am convinced that I have
a polarity incongruity of some type.  I recently realized that I seem
to have health cycles which match the cycle of the sun's solar
flares.  Sitting on the ground seems to help my entire day go
better.  I also like to frequent lakes/rivers and put my feet in the
water and walk there/meditate or work there.  Walking by the lake
energizes me.  When I walk a path by the river rapids I love it--lots
of negative ions--but it wears me out completely and I have to nap
afterwards.  But it is a good tiredness; a contented tiredness.  can out rub

I was wondering about that. EMF does affect my heart. I take
coenzme Q10 and that helps but my heart is a weaker area so that and
my head are the first things I think of covering. I also have thyroid
issues so will remember that. I will need to get a hood or something
so my neck gets covered. (If I do try clothes)
Which clothes loose their conductivity so fast?!? I have my eye on
the Silvertek long john style shirt and pants. The rating for that is
excellant, up to 18GHZ I believe. Do you know if that wears well? I
would just be sitting around or running errands in town and likely I
would need to wait for cooler weather to wear it. If I didn't wash
the clothes much wouldn't they hold up longer? My understanding is
that silver is anti-bacterial so the clothes wouldn't need the same
washing as regular. I'm unable to exert myself much so don't do a
whole lot of sweating (unless it is just plain too hot).

Kathy


--- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote: cell
> > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled and spend
> > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play a big
part in
> > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is not an
> > option (hope to move at the end of the lease as well). The
clothes are
> > appealing too as I could wear them when I go out as well. Do
clothes
> > need to be grounded? I don't trust the wiring in this apt so
couldn't
> > use the ground in the outlet.
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Regarding silver lined clothes, I've been wearing it for a long time,
I think possibly more than 2 years straight, almost 24/7, and it has
helped me a lot with my sensitivity, so I would highly recommend it.
The following is my experience with it. Around the time I first
tried experimenting with shielding cloths was when I was working near
a base station and possibly WiFi as well. Every now and then, I felt
as if my heart was being interrupted and I also got these recurring
light headaches, that didn't really hurt, but they were strange. I
hadn't had a headache before that for years, as far as I could
remember. After realizing the radiation around me, I tried buying
some shielding cloths from Less EMF. I found that when I wore those
shielding cloths (completely surrounding myself), that my heart
stopped feeling interrupted, and when I wore a hat with silver cloth
underneath it to line it, those headaches stopped. However, when I
took it off they would come back. My legs would also frequently feel
as if muscles were jumping, but after wearing pants with strong enough
shielding, I don't believe that's happened again for at least a year.
There was a time when my arms and legs felt strangely sore, and after
wearing the cloth, it went away within one day. My family at that
time thought it was psychological, but by now I think I've observed my
symptoms long enough (several years) to know that many of them are
not. In any case, I finally moved out of those high rf zones, because
I couldn't shield myself completely without people thinking I was
nuts. When spending a lot of time in rf areas, I think I was more
hypersensitive overall even to low exposures. Ever since moving away
from those areas, I think I've become less sensitive overall. While I
do recommend cloths when you can't avoid high rf, I still think
avoidance is the best.

The cloth from Less EMF is really expensive, though, which made me
reluctant to buy large quantities. This drove me to search for other
companies, and eventually, I found this company at shieldextrading.net
with an online store
http://store.fine-silver-productsnet.com/index.html. I believe their
Tulle is the same high performance silver shielding fabric that Less
EMF sells, but ShieldexTrading sells it at a more affordable price. I
used it for a vest. As for the pants, since I don't know how to sew
it, I got two of their Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants when it was on
sale. It was expensive, but having worn it day in and day out for
over a year, I think it was well worth the price. I think I will add
their website to the links.


--- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...> wrote:

Thanks for the website. I already ordered something form lessemf but
I do see the Tulle fabric and yes it is cheaper. This site doesn't
have any ratings on the fabric while lessemf does, but I did bookmark
it. Also they carry a hood which lessemf doesn't so I may want that
later. I am encouraged now regarding clothes. Did you wear them next
to your skin or on top of something? Also encouraging about the cap,
as I just ordered the silver lined cap from lessemf. I can't wait to
live somewhere far away form cell towers and Wi-fi. Finacially though
I can't pick and choose so may have to get lucky. Meanwhile I want to
do whatever I can.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@...> wrote:
>
> Regarding silver lined clothes, I've been wearing it for a long
time,
> I think possibly more than 2 years straight, almost 24/7, and it has
> helped me a lot with my sensitivity, so I would highly recommend
it.
> The following is my experience with it. Around the time I first
> tried experimenting with shielding cloths was when I was working
near
> a base station and possibly WiFi as well. Every now and then, I
felt
> as if my heart was being interrupted and I also got these recurring
> light headaches, that didn't really hurt, but they were strange. I
> hadn't had a headache before that for years, as far as I could
> remember. After realizing the radiation around me, I tried buying
> some shielding cloths from Less EMF. I found that when I wore those
> shielding cloths (completely surrounding myself), that my heart
> stopped feeling interrupted, and when I wore a hat with silver cloth
> underneath it to line it, those headaches stopped. However, when I
> took it off they would come back. My legs would also frequently
feel
> as if muscles were jumping, but after wearing pants with strong
enough
> shielding, I don't believe that's happened again for at least a
year.
> There was a time when my arms and legs felt strangely sore, and
after
> wearing the cloth, it went away within one day. My family at that
> time thought it was psychological, but by now I think I've observed
my
> symptoms long enough (several years) to know that many of them are
> not. In any case, I finally moved out of those high rf zones,
because
> I couldn't shield myself completely without people thinking I was
> nuts. When spending a lot of time in rf areas, I think I was more
> hypersensitive overall even to low exposures. Ever since moving
away
> from those areas, I think I've become less sensitive overall.  
While I
> do recommend cloths when you can't avoid high rf, I still think
> avoidance is the best.
>
> The cloth from Less EMF is really expensive, though, which made me
> reluctant to buy large quantities. This drove me to search for
other
> companies, and eventually, I found this company at
shieldextrading.net
> with an online store
> http://store.fine-silver-productsnet.com/index.html. I believe
their
> Tulle is the same high performance silver shielding fabric that Less
> EMF sells, but ShieldexTrading sells it at a more affordable
price. I
> used it for a vest. As for the pants, since I don't know how to sew
> it, I got two of their Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants when it was on
> sale. It was expensive, but having worn it day in and day out for
> over a year, I think it was well worth the price. I think I will
add
> their website to the links.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@>
wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering about that. EMF does affect my heart. I take
> > coenzme Q10 and that helps but my heart is a weaker area so that
and
> > my head are the first things I think of covering. I also have
thyroid
> > issues so will remember that. I will need to get a hood or
something
> > so my neck gets covered. (If I do try clothes)
> > Which clothes loose their conductivity so fast?!? I have my eye
on
> > the Silvertek long john style shirt and pants. The rating for
that is
> > excellant, up to 18GHZ I believe. Do you know if that wears well?
I
> > would just be sitting around or running errands in town and
likely I
> > would need to wait for cooler weather to wear it. If I didn't
wash
> > the clothes much wouldn't they hold up longer? My understanding
is
> > that silver is anti-bacterial so the clothes wouldn't need the
same
> > washing as regular. I'm unable to exert myself much so don't do a
> > whole lot of sweating (unless it is just plain too hot).
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@> wrote:
> > >
> > > A silver garment can protect the parts it covers from
microwaves.
> > > But if it's a shirt that stops at the neck, then the field will
be
> > > concentrated at the neck or any other opening. So it only
> > > makes sense if you are having symptoms in your chest for
instance,
> > > or if you cover your head too.
> > >
> > > Some of the garments lose their conductivity after a couple
months
> > > of heavy use.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:08 PM, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > As anyone had experience with silver lined clothes? There
is a
> > cell
> > > > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled and
spend
> > > > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play a
big
> > part in
> > > > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is not
an

> Did you wear them next to your skin or on top of something?

For the Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants, I wear that directly over the
skin. Originally, I was worried about that, but it's been fine. It's
a stretchy material similar to tights, so I'm able to wear pants/jeans
on top of it. However, for the vest that someone sewed for me using
the Tulle fabric, it's not that stretchy or comfortable on the skin,
and I prefer not to wash it, so I usually wear it sandwiched between
two shirts.

Oh... the ratings on the fabrics are on a different page
(http://www.shieldextrading.net). According to the data sheet on
Tulle in http://www.shieldextrading.net/images/pdfs/Tulle.pdf, it's
~60dB, I believe that's 99.9999% reduction.  

By the way, someone e-mailed asked me exactly which fabric I'm
referring to-- it's "Tulle Ag Conductive Mesh Fabric; Silver plated
knit mesh fabric -60" width. $29.28 per yard" under the "SHIELDEX
Metalized Fabrics & Conductive Fabric Tapes" section. Used to be
$24.73 per yard, so it's slightly more expensive before, but I think 1
yard should be enough to make a vest.  

I hadn't tried their hood, since I use Tulle for head covering as
well. The reason I chose Tulle amongst their other fabrics is that I
was told that it is the most transparent of shieldex's offerings, and
I like the 60dB rating, since 20dB (99%) is not strong enough for some
of the more powerful cell towers-- additionally, I like that it is
silver unlike some of their other cloths.

--- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...> wrote:

Darn!! I ordered too soon from lessemf. To their credit I already
have the fabric, I believe they have same day shipping and sent it
priority mail. I've never recieved anything so fast. But I could have
saved alot by ordering the Tulle. Can you purchase partial yards,
like half a yard? Thanks for the rating website. Tonight will be the
first I sleep with a shield up. I got to the hardware store too late
(to buy grounding rod and wire) but will be doing that in a few
days.  
The cap (baseball style) I bought from lessemf was a
dissapointment. I first planned to send it back, but after reading
the fine print, decided not to, there is a 20% restocking fee plus of
course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my
tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other
baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it
doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around
it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it
more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color
bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they
considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow.

Kathy.

--- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@...> wrote:
>
> > Did you wear them next to your skin or on top of something?
>
> For the Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants, I wear that directly over the
> skin. Originally, I was worried about that, but it's been fine.  
It's
> a stretchy material similar to tights, so I'm able to wear
pants/jeans think 1
> yard should be enough to make a vest.  
>
> I hadn't tried their hood, since I use Tulle for head covering as
> well. The reason I chose Tulle amongst their other fabrics is that
I
> was told that it is the most transparent of shieldex's offerings,
and
> I like the 60dB rating, since 20dB (99%) is not strong enough for
some
> of the more powerful cell towers-- additionally, I like that it is
> silver unlike some of their other cloths.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@>
wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the website. I already ordered something form lessemf
but
> > I do see the Tulle fabric and yes it is cheaper. This site
doesn't
> > have any ratings on the fabric while lessemf does, but I did
bookmark
> > it. Also they carry a hood which lessemf doesn't so I may want
that
> > later. I am encouraged now regarding clothes. Did you wear them
next
> > to your skin or on top of something? Also encouraging about the
cap,
> > as I just ordered the silver lined cap from lessemf. I can't wait
to
> > live somewhere far away form cell towers and Wi-fi. Finacially
though
> > I can't pick and choose so may have to get lucky. Meanwhile I
want to
> > do whatever I can.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Regarding silver lined clothes, I've been wearing it for a long
> > time,
> > > I think possibly more than 2 years straight, almost 24/7, and
it has
> > > helped me a lot with my sensitivity, so I would highly
recommend
> > it.
> > > The following is my experience with it. Around the time I
first
> > > tried experimenting with shielding cloths was when I was
working
> > near
> > > a base station and possibly WiFi as well. Every now and then,
I
> > felt
> > > as if my heart was being interrupted and I also got these
recurring
> > > light headaches, that didn't really hurt, but they were
strange. I
> > > hadn't had a headache before that for years, as far as I could
> > > remember. After realizing the radiation around me, I tried
buying
> > > some shielding cloths from Less EMF. I found that when I wore
those
> > > shielding cloths (completely surrounding myself), that my heart
> > > stopped feeling interrupted, and when I wore a hat with silver
cloth
> > > underneath it to line it, those headaches stopped. However,
when I
> > > took it off they would come back. My legs would also
frequently
> > feel
> > > as if muscles were jumping, but after wearing pants with strong
> > enough
> > > shielding, I don't believe that's happened again for at least a
> > year.
> > > There was a time when my arms and legs felt strangely sore,
and
> > after
> > > wearing the cloth, it went away within one day. My family at
that
> > > time thought it was psychological, but by now I think I've
observed
> > my
> > > symptoms long enough (several years) to know that many of them
are
> > > not. In any case, I finally moved out of those high rf zones,
> > because
> > > I couldn't shield myself completely without people thinking I
was
> > > nuts. When spending a lot of time in rf areas, I think I was
more
> > > hypersensitive overall even to low exposures. Ever since
moving
> > away
> > > from those areas, I think I've become less sensitive overall.  
> > While I
> > > do recommend cloths when you can't avoid high rf, I still think
> > > avoidance is the best.
> > >
> > > The cloth from Less EMF is really expensive, though, which made
me
> > > reluctant to buy large quantities. This drove me to search for
> > other
> > > companies, and eventually, I found this company at
> > shieldextrading.net
> > > with an online store
> > > http://store.fine-silver-productsnet.com/index.html. I believe
> > their
> > > Tulle is the same high performance silver shielding fabric that
Less
> > > EMF sells, but ShieldexTrading sells it at a more affordable
> > price. I
> > > used it for a vest. As for the pants, since I don't know how
to sew
> > > it, I got two of their Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants when it was
on
> > > sale. It was expensive, but having worn it day in and day out
for
> > > over a year, I think it was well worth the price. I think I
will
> > add
> > > their website to the links.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering about that. EMF does affect my heart. I
take
> > > > coenzme Q10 and that helps but my heart is a weaker area so
that
> > and
> > > > my head are the first things I think of covering. I also have
> > thyroid
> > > > issues so will remember that. I will need to get a hood or
> > something
> > > > so my neck gets covered. (If I do try clothes)
> > > > Which clothes loose their conductivity so fast?!? I have my
eye
> > on
> > > > the Silvertek long john style shirt and pants. The rating for
> > that is
> > > > excellant, up to 18GHZ I believe. Do you know if that wears
well?
> > I
> > > > would just be sitting around or running errands in town and
> > likely I
> > > > would need to wait for cooler weather to wear it. If I didn't
> > wash
> > > > the clothes much wouldn't they hold up longer? My
understanding
> > is
> > > > that silver is anti-bacterial so the clothes wouldn't need
the
> > same
> > > > washing as regular. I'm unable to exert myself much so don't
do a will <aquilawolf@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As anyone had experience with silver lined clothes?
There
> > is a
> > > > cell
> > > > > > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled
and
> > spend
> > > > > > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play
a
> > big
> > > > part in
> > > > > > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is
not
> > an
> > > > > > option (hope to move at the end of the lease as well).
The
> > > > clothes are
> > > > > > appealing too as I could wear them when I go out as well.
Do
> > > > clothes
> > > > > > need to be grounded? I don't trust the wiring in this apt
so

In a message dated 7/13/2008 4:05:55 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my
tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other
baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it
doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around
it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it
more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color
bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they
considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow.



We could hook up with a brave surgeon and get a silver mesh inserted under
our scalps permanently - now how about that !
PUK






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Hi Kathy,
 
The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies.  Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do.  Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot.  The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year.  If you live far enough south, magnoliatrees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen.  I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year.  It was over the roof in no time!  This one tree shields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions.  I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.  
 
If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens,as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves.  I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now).  And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition.  I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 otherpeople.  If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball.  Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed.  If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own.  Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia,you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.
 
Glad I was of some help,
Diane


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

 
 














     

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In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of
water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs
and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they


You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth
via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ?

puk






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If you looked hard enough you actually might find someone who would
try it. I think I'll stick with my cap!

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/13/2008 4:05:55 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,  
> aquilawolf@... writes:
>
> course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my
> tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other
> baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it
> doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana
around
> it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it
> more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color
> bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they
> considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is
shallow.
>
>
>
> We could hook up with a brave surgeon and get a silver mesh  
inserted under

Fortunately, there are already trees between me and the closest
(twin)cell tower. They are deciduous though. I'll keep that in mind
when I move. If I can't get away from radiation I can maybe pick a
spot with more trees.
I have an ash right in front of my apt living room window between
me and the tower and it grew really quick. I water it regular and it
is hugh compared to another ash that came up at the same time across
the parking lot. Yeah trees!

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kathy,
>  
> The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies.  Trees are
full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so
they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do.  Since they are
much larger than us, they can block alot.  The trees I have mentioned
(and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year.  If you
live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they
are evergreen.  I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a
southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at
least 6 feet a year.  It was over the roof in no time!  This one tree
shields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3
directions.  I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun
and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back
yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields
from frequencies.  
>  
> If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant
evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the
year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves.  I buy the trees when
they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places
would have them still now).  And I buy as large a tree I can find, as
long as it is in good condition.  I personally have sources to buy
fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more
than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it
yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people.  If you have the
help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close
to 7ft, not including the rootball.  Any more than that and you will
need it professionally delivered and installed.  If it is an
arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be
able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have
managed 7ft
> arborvitaes on our own.  Also, if you plan to remove bottom
branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done
with my magnolia, you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the
outside of your tree, as well. stop
> has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they
help
> scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
> you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that
there
> are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
> type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
> (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
> directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I
come
> up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and
I
> can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
> did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really
want
> to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will
let
> everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store
and

You mean once radiations are grounded they can erupt elsewhere? Don't
they just go deeper into the earth and get recycled into something
harmless? I thought that was the purpose of a grounding rod.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,  
> evie15422@... writes:
>
> The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are
full of  
> water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they
attract emfs  
> and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than
us, they  
>
>
> You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down
to earth

Hi, Maureen,
 
I can't refute or support anything you say here.  I am not schooled in these subjects.  I only know that trees shield me.  They might not work for everyone and they don't always work 100% for me.  Do I feel a difference behind one?  I surely do.  When I was looking for a new home, I was amazed how I could walk thru the yards of houses we were considering and becompletely fine, only to come to a gap in the landscaping and get an immediate headache.  There are probably reasons why trees work for me and not you.  There are areas I go to where trees do not help, as well.  These are areas where there are many close towers all over the place in a severalmile radius.  (One such town has 77 cell towers and nearly 100 microwavetowers--no amount of trees help me there!)  But in most of the areas I am in, trees do shield enough for me to be comfortable, because they are between me and only 1 or 2 towers. 
 
Diane

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, maureenan <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: maureenan <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:48 PM






Dear Evie

Did you know that fall out shelters were not built near to trees because the branches and leaves hold the harmful emissions.

And I'm not sure about trees shielding against emf and rf. I had several huge pines all the way down my yard and used to sit under one when it was badbut it didn't ease the effects felt from the high emf.

It seems logical that a tree that has its roots deep in the ground should be an excellent ground but I believe we're dealing with things outside of the norm of ordinary electricity.

Maureen
----- Original Message -----
From: Evie
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?

Hi Kathy,

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfsand microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ("Edith Bogue"), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one treeshields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard. It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft,not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself. My husband and I have managed 7ft
arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, youwill want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

Glad I was of some help,
Diane

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:
From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM
What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop
has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help
scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,
you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there
are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some
type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers
(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other
directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come
up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I
can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I
did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want
to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let
everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and
can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the
fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more
efficent.

Kathy

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Hi, Paul,
 
Nor do I have expertise in this subject.  I have no idea whether the emfsemerge somewhere else.  But my experience is it isn't seeming to bother me, if they are.  If that were the case tho, wouldn't we feel awful in a forest, instead of feeling revived and invigorated?  And, actually, the same is true for leaves harboring harmful whatever.  When you walk thru a forest, do you feel better or worse?  I feel better, personally. 
 
Diane

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Silver lined clothes?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:51 PM







In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
evie15422@yahoo. com writes:

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of
water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs
and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they

You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth
via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ?

puk

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In a message dated 7/14/2008 6:48:29 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hi, Paul,

Nor do I have expertise in this subject. I have no idea whether the emfs
emerge somewhere else. But my experience is it isn't seeming to bother me, if
they are. If that were the case tho, wouldn't we feel awful in a forest,
instead of feeling revived and invigorated? And, actually, the same is true for
leaves harboring harmful whatever. When you walk thru a forest, do you feel
better or worse? I feel better, personally.

Diane



I think that trees will of course offer some shade from RF, but most of the
forests/woods I have walked in are generally less irradiated on the basis
that the antennea is often not aim directly at large swathes of woodland as this
would be a waste of RF transmissions as they are largely uninhabited areas.
The temperature in a forest, the humidity, and general ambience will no
doubt seem protective. I have not had enough experience of wlaking in such areas
to make a solid decision on how they compare to say an open area with same
ambient radiation, but trees must make a difference hopefully a positive one
on the whole.

puk






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> When you walk thru a forest, do you feel
> better or worse? I feel better, personally.

When I walk through a forest, I usually get
allergies... :-)

Marc