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Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?)
 
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> As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 thanks, Stephen. --- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote: > > Hi Debbi, > > Just from experience, shielding helps, but can not replace getting away > from the "bombardment" of emf. > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. > > In my story, I have been on the ridge above home, in clear line of sight > with a tower 7 miles away, and it hurts me significantly up there. Also > standing on the southern ridge, I am in line of sight with all the > neighbors satellite dishes in the valley bottom, pointed just over the > hill toward the satellites in orbit, so if anybody is transmitting via > satellite internet, I would also be getting a higher dose of 25-30 GHz. > <sarcasm> makes you really want to go hiking to hilltops to see the > view, eh? </sarcasm> > > But travel up the valley floor toward the national forest where there is > no cel-service, and my symptoms go down to near normal in an hour or two. > > So when you say you have 40 plus antennas at close range, I despair to > find no easy solutions to share with you to help. > > Stewart > http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html > > hspmn wrote: > > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks for the info re: the high frequency distribution. Why do you say 1200 ft sounds too close to shield sufficiently? Do you have a reference for this? Thanks, Debbi > > > |
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About the distance to powerlines, a lot of relevant info and reports is at my website.
Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen_vandevijvere To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) Re Stewart's post: > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 thanks, Stephen. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It depends on the voltage (which some people can tell from the
number and size of the insulators). But usually with big transmission lines I would think a mile to 5 miles is what you want. I believe the problem with power lines though is not usually the 60 Hz but the higher frequencies. These can sometimes be fixed by the power company if caused by loose hardware etc. Get an MFJ-856 from mfjenterprises.com and see if you can detect it at 135 MHz. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:05 AM, stephen_vandevijvere < [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Re Stewart's post: > > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter > distance. > > My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At > first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading > Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have > an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as > cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. > > If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close > but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... > > I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: > http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 > > thanks, > Stephen. > > --- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Debbi, > > > > Just from experience, shielding helps, but can not replace getting away > > from the "bombardment" of emf. > > > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter > distance. > > > > In my story, I have been on the ridge above home, in clear line of sight > > with a tower 7 miles away, and it hurts me significantly up there. Also > > standing on the southern ridge, I am in line of sight with all the > > neighbors satellite dishes in the valley bottom, pointed just over the > > hill toward the satellites in orbit, so if anybody is transmitting via > > satellite internet, I would also be getting a higher dose of 25-30 GHz. > > <sarcasm> makes you really want to go hiking to hilltops to see the > > view, eh? </sarcasm> > > > > But travel up the valley floor toward the national forest where there is > > no cel-service, and my symptoms go down to near normal in an hour or two. > > > > So when you say you have 40 plus antennas at close range, I despair to > > find no easy solutions to share with you to help. > > > > Stewart > > http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html > > > > hspmn wrote: > > > Hi Stuart, > > > Thanks for the info re: the high frequency distribution. Why do you say > 1200 ft sounds too close to shield sufficiently? Do you have a reference for > this? Thanks, Debbi > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?)
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Okey thank you, lots of info indeed:
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html You mention 300 metres (= approx. 0.2 miles) should be enough... In one of the German pdf (link is on that page) they mention, it's not safe within 500 metres (= approx. 0.3 miles) Also interesting and I copy/paste: On the other hand, when those powerline cables hang not single, but hang together with for instance three cables, the magnetic fields are much less (french method, see picture below). I just took a look at the power lines close to my house and they are not "according to the french method". I've also re-estimated the distance to the power lines and it is quite a bit further than the quarter mile I had guessed at first... Read on one of the links on Charles' site, seems they can measure the power lines from very far: Power line harmonic radiation (PLHR) is always detectable in high sensitivity ELF-VLF receiving systems even when measuring at location tens of kilometers away from the nearest power lines. The observed PLHR is either from direct radiation from the power lines or it is from the magnetosphere, where it has experienced amplification in wave-particle interactions. We have studied properties of PLHR measured at extremely low local noise surrounding at L-value of about 6. The nearest power line systems are about 40 km away and distance to those carrying strong currents is more than one hundred kilometers. http://www.minderstraling.nl/Powerlines/PLHR.rtf Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > About the distance to powerlines, a lot of relevant info and reports is at my website. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: stephen_vandevijvere > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:05 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) > > > Re Stewart's post: > > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. > > My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. > > If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... > > I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: > http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 > > thanks, > Stephen. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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stephen_vandevijvere wrote: > Re Stewart's post: > >> As I wrote on my ehs page, I need ... 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" >> the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on >> multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. >> > > My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post No, I think 1/4 mile to power lines is the _least_ thing to worry about. I thought it significant that when measuring body voltage, at this distance, it is zero. This leads me to believe the electric field is responsible for some of my sensitivity. Some will say it is not scientific, but it is a direct way to measure how much voltage the body is picking up, compared to the ground beneath your feet. Stewart |
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Bill Bruno wrote:
> It depends on the voltage (which some people can tell from the > number and size of the insulators). But usually with big transmission > lines I would think a mile to 5 miles is what you want. > There is a qualifier that probably affects my recommendation... I have not tested the BIG lines.... Stewart |
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Interesting are the observations by Henshaw, who states a distance of 400 meters, because through the wind, electrically charged particles are coming your way. Within these 400 meters, he found more leukemia than outside.
Also interesting is the California report. All chapters can be downloaded. In the netherlands, now all new powerline masts are not allowed more tham 0,2 uT or 200 nT. The company Tennet has developed o new system of mast, where the cables are closer to each other, and which should fulfill to thjis requirement. It is called Wintrackline. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen_vandevijvere To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) Okey thank you, lots of info indeed: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html You mention 300 metres (= approx. 0.2 miles) should be enough... In one of the German pdf (link is on that page) they mention, it's not safe within 500 metres (= approx. 0.3 miles) Also interesting and I copy/paste: On the other hand, when those powerline cables hang not single, but hang together with for instance three cables, the magnetic fields are much less (french method, see picture below). I just took a look at the power lines close to my house and they are not "according to the french method". I've also re-estimated the distance to the power lines and it is quite a bit further than the quarter mile I had guessed at first... Read on one of the links on Charles' site, seems they can measure the power lines from very far: Power line harmonic radiation (PLHR) is always detectable in high sensitivity ELF-VLF receiving systems even when measuring at location tens of kilometers away from the nearest power lines. The observed PLHR is either from direct radiation from the power lines or it is from the magnetosphere, where it has experienced amplification in wave-particle interactions. We have studied properties of PLHR measured at extremely low local noise surrounding at L-value of about 6. The nearest power line systems are about 40 km away and distance to those carrying strong currents is more than one hundred kilometers. http://www.minderstraling.nl/Powerlines/PLHR.rtf Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > About the distance to powerlines, a lot of relevant info and reports is at my website. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: stephen_vandevijvere > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:05 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) > > > Re Stewart's post: > > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. > > My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. > > If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... > > I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: > http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 > > thanks, > Stephen. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I have a question about absorbing stray voltage from a transformer on the ground in rear of our neighbor's yard. Are there dangers in stray ground currents from that? I don't know the strength, but could find out. How do you determine if your home is grounded properly? I dion't know what the biggest cause is. Aluminum wiring, that need to be redone or a combo of emf's. I just know my ears ring here as soon as I pull past the neighbor's gas meter pointing at our garage. I know they don't work for all, but would GS filters for older wiring until can fix it? Thanks, Kathy From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 12:37 PM Interesting are the observations by Henshaw, who states a distance of 400 meters, because through the wind, electrically charged particles are coming your way. Within these 400 meters, he found more leukemia than outside. Also interesting is the California report. All chapters can be downloaded. In the netherlands, now all new powerline masts are not allowed more tham 0,2 uT or 200 nT. The company Tennet has developed o new system of mast, where the cables are closer to each other, and which should fulfill to thjis requirement. It is called Wintrackline. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen_vandevijvere To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) Okey thank you, lots of info indeed: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html You mention 300 metres (= approx. 0.2 miles) should be enough... In one of the German pdf (link is on that page) they mention, it's not safe within 500 metres (= approx. 0.3 miles) Also interesting and I copy/paste: On the other hand, when those powerline cables hang not single, but hang together with for instance three cables, the magnetic fields are much less (french method, see picture below). I just took a look at the power lines close to my house and they are not "according to the french method". I've also re-estimated the distance to the power lines and it is quite a bit further than the quarter mile I had guessed at first... Read on one of the links on Charles' site, seems they can measure the power lines from very far: Power line harmonic radiation (PLHR) is always detectable in high sensitivity ELF-VLF receiving systems even when measuring at location tens of kilometers away from the nearest power lines. The observed PLHR is either from direct radiation from the power lines or it is from the magnetosphere, where it has experienced amplification in wave-particle interactions. We have studied properties of PLHR measured at extremely low local noise surrounding at L-value of about 6. The nearest power line systems are about 40 km away and distance to those carrying strong currents is more than one hundred kilometers. http://www.minderstraling.nl/Powerlines/PLHR.rtf Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > About the distance to powerlines, a lot of relevant info and reports is at my website. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: stephen_vandevijvere > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:05 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) > > > Re Stewart's post: > > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. > > My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. > > If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... > > I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: > http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 > > thanks, > Stephen. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It's a small step down transformer I would think. It had to be replaced in the fall. Found 20+ homes were out. Felt 75 % better w no electric, sad. I didn't notice a problem like I have here in homes w copper wiring. Just been here since spring, may have to move. From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:08 PM I have a question about absorbing stray voltage from a transformer on the ground in rear of our neighbor's yard. Are there dangers in stray ground currents from that? I don't know the strength, but could find out. How do you determine if your home is grounded properly? I dion't know what the biggest cause is. Aluminum wiring, that need to be redone or a combo of emf's. I just know my ears ring here as soon as I pull past the neighbor's gas meter pointing at our garage. I know they don't work for all, but would GS filters for older wiring until can fix it? Thanks, Kathy From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 12:37 PM Interesting are the observations by Henshaw, who states a distance of 400 meters, because through the wind, electrically charged particles are coming your way. Within these 400 meters, he found more leukemia than outside. Also interesting is the California report. All chapters can be downloaded. In the netherlands, now all new powerline masts are not allowed more tham 0,2 uT or 200 nT. The company Tennet has developed o new system of mast, where the cables are closer to each other, and which should fulfill to thjis requirement. It is called Wintrackline. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen_vandevijvere To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) Okey thank you, lots of info indeed: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html You mention 300 metres (= approx. 0.2 miles) should be enough... In one of the German pdf (link is on that page) they mention, it's not safe within 500 metres (= approx. 0.3 miles) Also interesting and I copy/paste: On the other hand, when those powerline cables hang not single, but hang together with for instance three cables, the magnetic fields are much less (french method, see picture below). I just took a look at the power lines close to my house and they are not "according to the french method". I've also re-estimated the distance to the power lines and it is quite a bit further than the quarter mile I had guessed at first... Read on one of the links on Charles' site, seems they can measure the power lines from very far: Power line harmonic radiation (PLHR) is always detectable in high sensitivity ELF-VLF receiving systems even when measuring at location tens of kilometers away from the nearest power lines. The observed PLHR is either from direct radiation from the power lines or it is from the magnetosphere, where it has experienced amplification in wave-particle interactions. We have studied properties of PLHR measured at extremely low local noise surrounding at L-value of about 6. The nearest power line systems are about 40 km away and distance to those carrying strong currents is more than one hundred kilometers. http://www.minderstraling.nl/Powerlines/PLHR.rtf Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > About the distance to powerlines, a lot of relevant info and reports is at my website. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: stephen_vandevijvere > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:05 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?) > > > Re Stewart's post: > > > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel > > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to > > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not "hear" > > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on > > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance. > > My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading Stewart's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby. > > If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know... > > I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic: > http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74 > > thanks, > Stephen. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Here's an offline reply by Lizzie (& subsequent emails) with an interesting grounding method that she ok'd to post.... Feb 11th, 2011 Hi Debbi, I am still learning to navigate the site. While I am a great researcher, I'm not so strong on computers. As for the alternate way to use the bed grounding system, and in answer to your question, yes, I have used this same method on both my bed and my daughters for the past year with much success. While I don't have a voltage meter to check her body's voltage, symptom wise, she is much better. Here is what we used. Instead of using a grounding rod in the ground, we got a ceramic planter, large, like 3-5 gallons. Filled it with good soil, not too sandy, not too clay, so it drains well. Got a 6 inch piece of copper rod, 1/2 across. And wire with 2 alligator clips on either end. The wire itself should not be longer then 12 in long...so we have the pots at the ends of our beds, so as to attach the clip to the bottom of the silver fabric. We put the copper rod in the middle of the planter, with about an inch sticking up. Attach one end of the alligator clip to the rod, the other end is attached to fabric I got from lessemf.com, the hi performance silver fabric. Although the white naturaelle will work, I used that because its what I had. That fabric goes under the bottom sheet, enough to cover the bed and tuck in. The planter must NEVER be allowed to go dry! And it must be watered with eitehr spring water or artesian well water. AS for the circuit thing, I think it has to do with my house being so badly wired! If you have read Dietrich Klinghard on the sleep sanctuary (google him he states that people will not heal being exposed to radiation, (I don't think he spec states dirty electric but it applies as well) so he suggests using a demand switch to turn off the power to sleep areas. But because my x lied about the ele and wiring being safe...I didn't know that shutting off the circuits would actually raise the magnetic fields, in this particular case. We were probably greatly saved by sleeping on non metal beds and by grounding them the way we did. HOwever, the energy in my house was awful when I shut down those circuits. *But too, my house also had lots of geopathic stress, haunted and things like the pool (gone now) the direct tv dish (now disconnected), and mirros taken down, all helped greatly to reduce both geopathic stress, and radiation being amplified by the nearby water tower. Some say electricity is not supposed to back up on the wiring, but when I shut off the circuits, that's what it felt like....I still cannot shut them down...so I am just going to totally disconnect the electrical from both the bedroom and the room under it, and use battery operated lights. I will post all of this as soon as I can... Feel free, if you know how, to add this info to the site. Lizzie From: "brudedj@ To: lizziethode Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:09:28 PM Subject: Re: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax? Need help, please. Hi Lizzie, Welcome to the ESens forum. I, too, am new to the group. Thanks for responding to my post. I like the idea of an alternative to grounding via outlet and outside ground for reasons you mentioned. Just curious, does your friend in Ireland have ES? Have you, as an ES, tried his idea yourself? (I'm still wondering if I'm too sensitive to use grounded sheets.) Also, my townhouse was built in 1994. I'm curious if you have a reference for your caution that turning off circuits might lead to higher EMF. I turn off two circuits in my lower level (not all the circuits - still leave furnace, laundry on) and I've tested with a Trifield meter. With the two circuits off, I do not get a higher EMF field. Also, with the two circuits off, the electric field around the light switches, outlets and ceiling fan/lights is 0.0 mV or close to that. This is a great reduction from when the circuits are on. I'm interested in hearing more from you about this, in case I'm missing something. I've been electrosensitive for about a year. I live in the city and I would like to move to a rural area. Actually my home town, a hamlet in North Dakota has no cell antennas in town, and I'm thinking of spending time there this summer to get some relief. Best regards, Debbi PS. You may have had a reason for emailing me privately... I think your post is excellent - it would be nice to see it on the ESens message board. :>) ----- Original Message ----- From: "lizziethode" < To: "hspmn" Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:14:39 PM Subject: Re: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax? Need help, please. Hi Everyone, My name is Lizzie, and I am new to this site, but not new to ES (unfortunately) and I wanted to offer a suggestion to bed grounding situation. A healer friend in Ireland told me that he uses the Hi performance silver fabric, like lessemf sells, puts it in betwe the sheets, and instead of using an outdoor groundng rod or an outlet, he uses a large ceramic planter, filled with good soil (Ie: not too sandy, not too much clay, must drain well) and places a 6 inch copper ground rod, 1/2 in dia in center of soil, with an inch of copper sticking up. Then he attaches the wire with the alligator clips, one end to the silver fabric, the other end to the rod in the planter. He says "never let the soil go dry>" and also, to use either Spring water or artesian well water to water the soil. Apparently he has had great success with this method, as it eliminates using outlets which may not be grounded, and also eliminates using outside ground, as stray voltage may be present in that area. Also, as to shutting down the power to the room, or installing demand switch, or turning off circuits, one need be cautious here. In older houses where the wiring is not grounded/ or wiring errors (common), shutting off one circuit, for example, can cause higher magnetic fields, as current or neutral can back up on the house wiring. Lizzie --- In [hidden email], "hspmn" <brudedj@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to this forum. My name is Debbi and I live in a townhouse in a suburb of Minneapolis, MN. I'm 1200 ft from a water tower with 40 plus cell antennas and at least 5 microwave antennas, new in August, some of which are pulsing at 23 GHz. This number really surprised me when I looked it up on antennasearch.com It seems very high. > > My symptoms of electrosensitivity are burning and tingling, and I am retired so I'm at home most of the time. I'm looking to shield myself either by using shielding fabric as sheets or curtains, and am wondering if anyone having experience or knowledge about this would share information with me. > > ArgenMesh fabric from lessemf.com protects to 40Ghz. Its conductivity is <0.5 Ohm per square. Would anyone on this forum > know if I were to use this fabric for sheets without grounding it, would there be any problem for me as an electrosensitive? > > One of the reasons I ask is because the folks at the Earthing Institute said if I were electrosensitive I should go easy on the grounded sheets they sell. > > Also, would someone please explain how the Ohm measurement related to the need for grounding. > > Also, I have metal mini-blinds on my windows near where I'm sleeping. They seem to block the rf from nearby neighbors' wifi when they are closed. (I've tested this with my Palm Pilot. I don't use wifi in my home.) I don't know if the metal blinds are protecting or harming me, since some say metal reflects RF. I don't have any RF devices in my sleeping area. > > Any experience, advice or help you can give would be greatly appreciated... > > Best regards, > Debbi > |
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