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Shielding fabrics

ronsehs-2
There was some discussion about fabrics being used to create a shield fromcell transmissions thru the walls that I guess I missed. I have used a faraday canopy but found that it only took my cell phone down from 5 bars to 3which is only about a 40% reduction & not good enough to stop my brain from frying. I was going to go the shielding paint route but if there are fabrics out there that works well (better than a faraday)
I would like to know about it & where to get it especially if it is less cost. Which is the best fabric to use against micro waves?

Thanks Ron

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BiBrun
> a faraday canopy but found that it only took my cell phone down from 5 bars
> to 3 which is only about a 40%
> reduction
> *W*hat kind of material did you try? And was it new? I'm not sure if the
> 'bars' on a cell phone are linear, they are probably logarithmic, but I
> don't know the scale. Also, if 5 bars is max, you may have actually had 20
> bars. twpinc.com and lessemf.com are the main US distributors of such
> stuff that I know of.
>






>
>


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ronsehs-2
Hi Bill

I had purchased the standard Farady canopy new. It was not the heavy duty one that Emil says works better. My cell phone maxes out at 5 bars & did only lower to 3 bars. My headaches continued in the canopy so my head told me it was not working too.

So I need some WALL FABRIC to cover the wall & stop cell microwaves from entering my house. Previous discussions seem to say that they taped the clothto the walls & had almost complete blockage of signals. I need to know EXACTLY which fabric was used & where to get it.

Thanks Ron

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BiBrun
The guy I know who is most serious about this glues extra-wide, heavy duty
aluminum foil.
He feels that stapling it isn't as good because the staples penetrate.
Overlap
seams by at least 4 inches. You want the window screening in contact with
the
wall shield all around. You can use diluted elmers glue or wallpaper paste.
Be careful around outlets etc. You should probably have the power off or
some
other protection.

Having metal on the outside of the building too is a plus.

But how do you know it's not an AC magnetic field causing your problem?
Admittedly 3 bars probably is enough to cause symptoms, but none of
this will stop magnetic fields if present.

I should add that there's also some who say that one will not be healthy in
a metal box. Stopping the signals is good, but there are natural signals
that
will also be blocked. You may get some relief (and worse cell coverage)
blocking
the walls only.



On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, ronsehs <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Bill
>
> I had purchased the standard Farady canopy new. It was not the heavy duty
> one that Emil says works better. My cell phone maxes out at 5 bars & did
> only lower to 3 bars. My headaches continued in the canopy so my head told
> me it was not working too.
>
> So I need some WALL FABRIC to cover the wall & stop cell microwaves from
> entering my house. Previous discussions seem to say that they taped the
> cloth to the walls & had almost complete blockage of signals. I need to know
> EXACTLY which fabric was used & where to get it.
>
> Thanks Ron
>
>
>


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Re: Shielding fabrics

BiBrun
I meant walls and windows only (try windows first if there is metal in the
walls, like with
stucco). But to really get to low RF levels the ceiling should
be addressed too, and perhaps the floor.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The guy I know who is most serious about this glues extra-wide, heavy duty
> aluminum foil.
> He feels that stapling it isn't as good because the staples penetrate.
> Overlap
> seams by at least 4 inches. You want the window screening in contact with
> the
> wall shield all around. You can use diluted elmers glue or wallpaper
> paste.
> Be careful around outlets etc. You should probably have the power off or
> some
> other protection.
>
> Having metal on the outside of the building too is a plus.
>
> But how do you know it's not an AC magnetic field causing your problem?
> Admittedly 3 bars probably is enough to cause symptoms, but none of
> this will stop magnetic fields if present.
>
> I should add that there's also some who say that one will not be healthy in
>
> a metal box. Stopping the signals is good, but there are natural signals
> that
> will also be blocked. You may get some relief (and worse cell coverage)
> blocking
> the walls only.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, ronsehs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Bill
>>
>> I had purchased the standard Farady canopy new. It was not the heavy duty
>> one that Emil says works better. My cell phone maxes out at 5 bars & did
>> only lower to 3 bars. My headaches continued in the canopy so my head told
>> me it was not working too.
>>
>> So I need some WALL FABRIC to cover the wall & stop cell microwaves from
>> entering my house. Previous discussions seem to say that they taped the
>> cloth to the walls & had almost complete blockage of signals. I need to know
>> EXACTLY which fabric was used & where to get it.
>>
>> Thanks Ron
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Shielding fabrics

Loni Rosser
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The windows are where the most RF comes in. Blocking the walls & not doing anything about the windows is useless in my opinion. I put the shielding onthe windows only & has helped a great deal. I had a Building Biologist measure the frequencies also. Loni

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From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Shielding fabrics
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:28 PM


 



The guy I know who is most serious about this glues extra-wide, heavy duty
aluminum foil.
He feels that stapling it isn't as good because the staples penetrate.
Overlap
seams by at least 4 inches. You want the window screening in contact with
the
wall shield all around. You can use diluted elmers glue or wallpaper paste.
Be careful around outlets etc. You should probably have the power off or
some
other protection.

Having metal on the outside of the building too is a plus.

But how do you know it's not an AC magnetic field causing your problem?
Admittedly 3 bars probably is enough to cause symptoms, but none of
this will stop magnetic fields if present.

I should add that there's also some who say that one will not be healthy in
a metal box. Stopping the signals is good, but there are natural signals
that
will also be blocked. You may get some relief (and worse cell coverage)
blocking
the walls only.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, ronsehs <rschranz@hotmail. com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Bill
>
> I had purchased the standard Farady canopy new. It was not the heavy duty
> one that Emil says works better. My cell phone maxes out at 5 bars & did
> only lower to 3 bars. My headaches continued in the canopy so my head told
> me it was not working too.
>
> So I need some WALL FABRIC to cover the wall & stop cell microwaves from
> entering my house. Previous discussions seem to say that they taped the
> cloth to the walls & had almost complete blockage of signals. I need to know
> EXACTLY which fabric was used & where to get it.
>
> Thanks Ron
>
>
>

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Re: Shielding fabrics

Emil at Less EMF Inc
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>Which is the best fabric to use against micro waves?
>
> Thanks Ron


See AL100 at http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#2272
and
Pure Copper Polyester Taffeta at http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#1212

There is ALWAYS some leakage (though gaps, seams, switch plates, etc). So,
often an absorber material http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#259N is placed
in the inside surface of the shielding fabric to capture any RF that has
leaked inside the enclosure.

Emil