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Safe wiring

KathyB


What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something  after the holidays.

Kathy


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Re: Safe wiring

BiBrun
I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
Or use conduit and twist with a drill.  Any kind of shielding is good if
you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best.
But if you have net currents it is all wasted.

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Re: Safe wiring

KathyB

Thanks Bill,

To get rid of any net, you put the dielectric coupler on & make sure no wiring is touching pipes or vents. I was told we can have them put in a grounding rod as well.

The electrician that showed, said we had a dielectric coupler on  the water heat tank. I thought you all recommended at the water main inside or out.

Kathy
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Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring
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Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM

I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
Or use conduit and twist with a drill.  Any kind of shielding is good if
you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best.
But if you have net currents it is all wasted.

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Re: Safe wiring

KathyB
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Is retrofitting a wire nut safe for a temporary fix?

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/article/0,,562098-8,00.html



 Retrofit a dielectric wire nut approved for aluminum wire onto each copper/aluminum connection in light
fixtures. These nuts have a special grease that stops corrosion while
maintaining conductivity. Make sure any replacement switches and
receptacles are labeled AL-compatible.




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Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring
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Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM

I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
Or use conduit and twist with a drill.  Any kind of shielding is good if
you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best.
But if you have net currents it is all wasted.

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Re: Safe wiring

BiBrun
If you have aluminum wires you should replace all the
wire nuts with this approved kind.  If the wires have
not been damaged this should make them safe.
Net current also comes from ganged neutral wires.

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> Retrofit a dielectric wire nut approved for aluminum wire onto each
> copper/aluminum connection in light
> fixtures. These nuts have a special grease that stops corrosion while
> maintaining conductivity. Make sure any replacement switches and
> receptacles are labeled AL-compatible.
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring
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> I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
> Or use conduit and twist with a drill.  Any kind of shielding is good if
> you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best.
> But if you have net currents it is all wasted.
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RE: Safe wiring

Elizabeth thode
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That's a great idea...the only problem is: most electricians don't UNDERSTAND HOW to do this.
I suggested MC CABLE which is "twisted wiring" enclosed in conduit. This is usually used in
commercial buildings and most electricians are familiar with the MC. (At least here in my
area of Michigan, anyway.)
As its already twisted-there's LESS room for mistakes when a non ES aware electrician uses the MC. Cable.
Lizzie
 
 

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> I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
> Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if
> you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best.
> But if you have net currents it is all wasted.
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RE: Safe wiring

Elizabeth thode
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Kathy,
The dialectric union goes inside the house, at the service entrance where the water pipe comes in to the house. The dialectric union is simply a piece of pipe, like a knuckle, that is NON CONDUCTIVE.
HOwever, this may not stop the net current or stray voltage due to being hooked into City water. Anyone who is connected to CITY water will have stray current piggybacking on the water lines.
See: http://www.emfservices.com/ground.htm     *Anyone on city water should read this link.
*A another idea is if all piping/plumbng is metal, to replace a section at service entrance with plastic piping to break the current. Service entrance is at the WALL, where the house connects to the city's water line.
Lizzie
 



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Thanks Bill,

To get rid of any net, you put the dielectric coupler on & make sure no wiring is touching pipes or vents. I was told we can have them put in a grounding rod as well.

The electrician that showed, said we had a dielectric coupler on  the water heat tank. I thought you all recommended at the water main inside or out.

Kathy
From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM

I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
Or use conduit and twist with a drill.  Any kind of shielding is good if
you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best.
But if you have net currents it is all wasted.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something  after the
> holidays.
>
> Kathy
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