What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the holidays. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted.
Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best. But if you have net currents it is all wasted. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > > > What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the > holidays. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
Thanks Bill, To get rid of any net, you put the dielectric coupler on & make sure no wiring is touching pipes or vents. I was told we can have them put in a grounding rod as well. The electrician that showed, said we had a dielectric coupler on the water heat tank. I thought you all recommended at the water main inside or out. Kathy From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted. Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best. But if you have net currents it is all wasted. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > > > What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the > holidays. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Is retrofitting a wire nut safe for a temporary fix? http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/article/0,,562098-8,00.html Retrofit a dielectric wire nut approved for aluminum wire onto each copper/aluminum connection in light fixtures. These nuts have a special grease that stops corrosion while maintaining conductivity. Make sure any replacement switches and receptacles are labeled AL-compatible. From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted. Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best. But if you have net currents it is all wasted. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > > > What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the > holidays. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
If you have aluminum wires you should replace all the
wire nuts with this approved kind. If the wires have not been damaged this should make them safe. Net current also comes from ganged neutral wires. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:04 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > > Is retrofitting a wire nut safe for a temporary fix? > > http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/article/0,,562098-8,00.html > > Retrofit a dielectric wire nut approved for aluminum wire onto each > copper/aluminum connection in light > fixtures. These nuts have a special grease that stops corrosion while > maintaining conductivity. Make sure any replacement switches and > receptacles are labeled AL-compatible. > > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM > > I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted. > Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if > you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best. > But if you have net currents it is all wasted. > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the > > holidays. > > > > Kathy > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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That's a great idea...the only problem is: most electricians don't UNDERSTAND HOW to do this. I suggested MC CABLE which is "twisted wiring" enclosed in conduit. This is usually used in commercial buildings and most electricians are familiar with the MC. (At least here in my area of Michigan, anyway.) As its already twisted-there's LESS room for mistakes when a non ES aware electrician uses the MC. Cable. Lizzie > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:35:50 -0700 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring > > I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted. > Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if > you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best. > But if you have net currents it is all wasted. > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the > > holidays. > > > > Kathy > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Kathy, The dialectric union goes inside the house, at the service entrance where the water pipe comes in to the house. The dialectric union is simply a piece of pipe, like a knuckle, that is NON CONDUCTIVE. HOwever, this may not stop the net current or stray voltage due to being hooked into City water. Anyone who is connected to CITY water will have stray current piggybacking on the water lines. See: http://www.emfservices.com/ground.htm *Anyone on city water should read this link. *A another idea is if all piping/plumbng is metal, to replace a section at service entrance with plastic piping to break the current. Service entrance is at the WALL, where the house connects to the city's water line. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:47:06 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring Thanks Bill, To get rid of any net, you put the dielectric coupler on & make sure no wiring is touching pipes or vents. I was told we can have them put in a grounding rod as well. The electrician that showed, said we had a dielectric coupler on the water heat tank. I thought you all recommended at the water main inside or out. Kathy From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Safe wiring To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 4:35 PM I'm told it's worth using 3 conductor romex because it is twisted. Or use conduit and twist with a drill. Any kind of shielding is good if you can afford it, rigid metal with compression fittings is best. But if you have net currents it is all wasted. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > > > What kind of wiring is better for ES? We have to do something after the > holidays. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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