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In parts of the east coast damaged by hurricane Sandy, Verizon is not rebuilding the wired telephone network. They are going all wireless. http://www.app.com/article/20130503/NJBIZ/305020135/Following-Sandy-s-destruction-Verizon-switches-all-wireless-service-Mantoloking Tim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Lovely NOT! Lizzie
To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 20:12:01 -0700 Subject: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless In parts of the east coast damaged by hurricane Sandy, Verizon is not rebuilding the wired telephone network. They are going all wireless. http://www.app.com/article/20130503/NJBIZ/305020135/Following-Sandy-s-destruction-Verizon-switches-all-wireless-service-Mantoloking Tim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I have an iPod Classic and I wanted to get a portable speaker for travel. My options for good sound were limited to devices that were called Bluetooth speakers that also allow you to sync with cell phones and computes to hear voices thru the speaker.
Well, there is no manual and no info about these devices to say if the Bluetooth is only enabled when you Sync with a wireless device. Against my better judgement I made a rash decision and got the JBL Flip Wireless Stereo Speaker that looks like a sausage. The IPod Classic plugs into it via a standard jack and I am assuming that since Bluetooth only receives signals, but does not transmit anything, that as long as I am just using the iPod through the plug in, that I am not activating any wireless frequencies. However, I do not know how these devices work. I measured it with my Acoustimeter and did not get anything from it when it was on. It has a NIckel Cad battery that has to be charged up. After I turn off the iPod, the light on the speakers keeps flashing for an hour. Is it seeking a wireless device? Anybody know if these Bluetooth devices are a no no for Electrosensitives? I have 13 days to return the item if necessary. While standing next to all the display models of Bluetooth Capable Speakers at Best Buy, I had a really bad reaction like I was being stabbed in the stomach. I normally only get that reaction to wireless, but there was a lot of stuff that was plugged in there that may have given off high EMF. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I could never have wireless. I MUST stay with copper. Verizon tried to
change my service and one week in I was sick. They came and converted me back to copper. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Oy Vay! :-)
________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:42 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless Lovely NOT! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 20:12:01 -0700 Subject: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless In parts of the east coast damaged by hurricane Sandy, Verizon is not rebuilding the wired telephone network. They are going all wireless. http://www.app.com/article/20130503/NJBIZ/305020135/Following-Sandy-s-destruction-Verizon-switches-all-wireless-service-Mantoloking Tim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You were very fortunate Estelle!
Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I could never have wireless. I MUST stay with copper. Verizon tried to change my service and one week in I was sick. They came and converted me back to copper. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I keep telling folk-- what's coming down is exacerbating. People kind of poo pooed the new Comcast wireless modems which feel way more dangerous than the current Verizon routers a few years ago.
Plus, I had a friend tell me basically the same thing that Comcast was now putting wireless antennas on utility poles to go directly into the home. So there you have it- lock and seal- inside and out- whether you want it or not, whether its good for you or not. Remember they haven't even begun promoting the white spaces, I think that's in 2015. 4G LTE hasn't hit my state just yet, nor Smart meters. Welcome to our happy microwave grid forever more. Put a buzz in your craw, don't it-- a little burn? Kind of like my week...help's gotta be on the way! Keep breathing and loving! Have an inspired week! Pam ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless Lovely NOT! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 20:12:01 -0700 Subject: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless In parts of the east coast damaged by hurricane Sandy, Verizon is not rebuilding the wired telephone network. They are going all wireless. http://www.app.com/article/20130503/NJBIZ/305020135/Following-Sandy-s-destruction-Verizon-switches-all-wireless-service-Mantoloking Tim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I think one of the saddest things to this story is that NONE of this stuff is being monitored, gauged or regulated. It is literally the "lead pipes" of our time. How stupid could people who believe themselves to be so "advanced" be. It's no wonder the world has had to be destroyed many times and begun again.
In Buddhism, it is said that GREED, ANGER and STUPIDITY are the 3 POISONS which destroy the happiness of individuals and societies. What has changed, anything? Pam ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless You were very fortunate Estelle! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I could never have wireless. I MUST stay with copper. Verizon tried to change my service and one week in I was sick. They came and converted me back to copper. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes, all indications are ever
increasing microwave radiation in our environment. My hope is that rural and remote areas will remain low RF, but it should still be less than living in cities and tied to the grid. Well said Pam! Keep breathing and loving! It's like one of my favorite lines, in one of my favorite movies, Resurrection, with Ellen Burstyn... "If life don't hand you nothing but lemons, you just make you a bunch of lemonade!" :-) Tim ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I keep telling folk-- what's coming down is exacerbating. People kind of poo pooed the new Comcast wireless modems which feel way more dangerous than the current Verizon routers a few years ago. Plus, I had a friend tell me basically the same thing that Comcast was now putting wireless antennas on utility poles to go directly into the home. So there you have it- lock and seal- inside and out- whether you want it or not, whether its good for you or not. Remember they haven't even begun promoting the white spaces, I think that's in 2015. 4G LTE hasn't hit my state just yet, nor Smart meters. Welcome to our happy microwave grid forever more. Put a buzz in your craw, don't it-- a little burn? Kind of like my week...help's gotta be on the way! Keep breathing and loving! Have an inspired week! Pam ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless Lovely NOT! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 20:12:01 -0700 Subject: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless In parts of the east coast damaged by hurricane Sandy, Verizon is not rebuilding the wired telephone network. They are going all wireless. http://www.app.com/article/20130503/NJBIZ/305020135/Following-Sandy-s-destruction-Verizon-switches-all-wireless-service-Mantoloking Tim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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So true Pam, and history keeps repeating itself... When will we learn? Hmmmm....
Reminds me of the adage... Money is the root of all evil. I think deeper than that, it's more about learning about power vs love. Money tempts our sense of power, but if balanced with love, money can work for us rather than against us. Tim ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I think one of the saddest things to this story is that NONE of this stuff is being monitored, gauged or regulated. It is literally the "lead pipes" of our time. How stupid could people who believe themselves to be so "advanced" be. It's no wonder the world has had to be destroyed many times and begun again. In Buddhism, it is said that GREED, ANGER and STUPIDITY are the 3 POISONS which destroy the happiness of individuals and societies. What has changed, anything? Pam ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless You were very fortunate Estelle! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I could never have wireless. I MUST stay with copper. Verizon tried to change my service and one week in I was sick. They came and converted me back to copper. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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ipod has bluetooth and wifi which can both be turned off in the settings
menu, my duaghter left the ipod downstairs once with wifi on and I had my esmog detector on for some reason, which picked up the wifi from the ipod searching for a network to link up with so ipod wifi is strong enough to register on a esmog puk In a message dated 5/5/2013 2:10:43 A.M. Dateline Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I have an iPod Classic and I wanted to get a portable speaker for travel. My options for good sound were limited to devices that were called Bluetooth speakers that also allow you to sync with cell phones and computes to hear voices thru the speaker. Well, there is no manual and no info about these devices to say if the Bluetooth is only enabled when you Sync with a wireless device. Against my better judgement I made a rash decision and got the JBL Flip Wireless Stereo Speaker that looks like a sausage. The IPod Classic plugs into it via a standard jack and I am assuming that since Bluetooth only receives signals, but does not transmit anything, that as long as I am just using the iPod through the plug in, that I am not activating any wireless frequencies. However, I do not know how these devices work. I measured it with my Acoustimeter and did not get anything from it when it was on. It has a NIckel Cad battery that has to be charged up. After I turn off the iPod, the light on the speakers keeps flashing for an hour. Is it seeking a wireless device? Anybody know if these Bluetooth devices are a no no for Electrosensitives? I have 13 days to return the item if necessary. While standing next to all the display models of Bluetooth Capable Speakers at Best Buy, I had a really bad reaction like I was being stabbed in the stomach. I normally only get that reaction to wireless, but there was a lot of stuff that was plugged in there that may have given off high EMF. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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True definition of money in socieity is that it was designed to "control".No, it doesn't have to evil on its face.But the intent behind the whole idea of moneywas to "control" the masses. Lizzie
To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 13:49:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless So true Pam, and history keeps repeating itself... When will we learn? Hmmmm.... Reminds me of the adage... Money is the root of all evil. I think deeper than that, it's more about learning about power vs love. Money tempts our sense of power, but if balanced with love, money can work for us rather than against us. Tim ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I think one of the saddest things to this story is that NONE of this stuff is being monitored, gauged or regulated. It is literally the "lead pipes" of our time. How stupid could people who believe themselves to be so "advanced" be. It's no wonder the world has had to be destroyed many times and begun again. In Buddhism, it is said that GREED, ANGER and STUPIDITY are the 3 POISONS which destroy the happiness of individuals and societies. What has changed, anything? Pam ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless You were very fortunate Estelle! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I could never have wireless. I MUST stay with copper. Verizon tried to change my service and one week in I was sick. They came and converted me back to copper. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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we have been conditioned to play a game
that few of us care to play… MONOPOLY. never cared for it. don't care for it. and i kinda resent having to play it. nobody should have to pay to live on planet earth. but if someone can get everyone to play the game, and he who builds the biggest pile of it, wins, then ? let them play, but let me be free of it. when people will do anything for it, then they can become quite destructive, for the game is all that matters to them… not life, not quality of life, but just that silly stuff that looks like green pieces of paper or metal discs or even just numbers on a screen… it's an insane game. thanks for letting me vent. :) love, patricia On May 5, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote: > Reminds me of the adage... Money is the root of all evil. I think > deeper than that, it's more about learning about power vs love. Money > tempts our sense of power, but if balanced with love, money can work for > us rather than against us. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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That's why I've decided to live only in the Star Trek universe! HA!
Tim ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 5:05 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless True definition of money in socieity is that it was designed to "control".No, it doesn't have to evil on its face.But the intent behind the whole idea of moneywas to "control" the masses. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 13:49:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless So true Pam, and history keeps repeating itself... When will we learn? Hmmmm.... Reminds me of the adage... Money is the root of all evil. I think deeper than that, it's more about learning about power vs love. Money tempts our sense of power, but if balanced with love, money can work for us rather than against us. Tim ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I think one of the saddest things to this story is that NONE of this stuff is being monitored, gauged or regulated. It is literally the "lead pipes" of our time. How stupid could people who believe themselves to be so "advanced" be. It's no wonder the world has had to be destroyed many times and begun again. In Buddhism, it is said that GREED, ANGER and STUPIDITY are the 3 POISONS which destroy the happiness of individuals and societies. What has changed, anything? Pam ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless You were very fortunate Estelle! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless I could never have wireless. I MUST stay with copper. Verizon tried to change my service and one week in I was sick. They came and converted me back to copper. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes, but there are ways to live in the world but not of it... We can network with others, barter, build community, become more self sufficient and self aware, etc. I may not be able to change the game, but I don't have to play it as often. I can lessen it's impact, just like ES!
I still stand by my Star Trek decision. :-) Tim ________________________________ From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless we have been conditioned to play a game that few of us care to play… MONOPOLY. never cared for it. don't care for it. and i kinda resent having to play it. nobody should have to pay to live on planet earth. but if someone can get everyone to play the game, and he who builds the biggest pile of it, wins, then ? let them play, but let me be free of it. when people will do anything for it, then they can become quite destructive, for the game is all that matters to them… not life, not quality of life, but just that silly stuff that looks like green pieces of paper or metal discs or even just numbers on a screen… it's an insane game. thanks for letting me vent. :) love, patricia On May 5, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote: > Reminds me of the adage... Money is the root of all evil. I think > deeper than that, it's more about learning about power vs love. Money > tempts our sense of power, but if balanced with love, money can work for > us rather than against us. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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not to get really heavy, tim, but i agree
with lizzie. the point is not just that we can use a different system to make exchange happen, but that those who accrue the most money also then can buy people to do things not only that the 'rich' do not care to do for themselves, such as cook or drive or whatever, but they can also buy people to go to war, to make laws that benefit those who do play the game well. they can afford to buy entire govts to do their bidding. that is the situation right now in the US. the govt does not do what the american people really want it to do… it does what the 'owners' of the 'biggest piles' want it to do. real people don't want to go to war. real people don't want chemtrails and EMFs and fluoride and GMOs. real people want to enjoy life, have families, be happy, creative, make a contribution to the quality of life on the planet, etc. they want to simply have a home and not have to move over and over again. the people with the biggest piles want simply to increase their piles - with oil, gold, silver, slavery, human tissue trafficking, bogus medicine, matters of law, whatever can make money for them… and many of their goals are not conducive to the continuation of life. when they finally catch on that they are cutting of the very branch they are sitting on, perhaps it will end. i think it will take a 'scrooge moment' for them to turn around. otherwise, they have it in their mind that they need to amass the biggest fortune - or they will surely die. that is the real problem with greed - it goes for riches for a few, rather than quality of life for all. this is opposed to universal laws, so something will give sooner or later. so i agree 100% that the real problem is that the game is all about control… and control by people who aren't necessarily loving or kind or wise or very evolved… for if they truly were evolved, 'enlightened', then they would never want to harm anyone. love, patricia On May 5, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote: > Yes, but there are ways to live in the world but not of it... We can network with others, barter, build community, become more self sufficient and self aware, etc. I may not be able to change the game, but I don't have to play it as often. I can lessen it's impact, just like ES! ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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The old school iPod Classic 160 GB is different than the iPod Touch. The iPod Classic does not have any wireless capability that is why I got it. It is just basic - you charge up the battery and go. The iPod Touch has a large display touch screen and Syncs with iCloud and wireless devices to download apps and access other wireless networks and phones and who knows what else - WiFi, etc.
Get your iPod Classic while they last, they may be discontinued. The only thing you have to worry about with the IPod Classic is exposure to the battery and EMF's that might be generated by having the earbuds on if you are sensitive to those frequencies, if any frequencies are being generated. C. Johnson [hidden email] Wireless Refugee --- On Sun, 5/5/13, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Bluetooth To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, May 5, 2013, 9:59 PM ipod has bluetooth and wifi which can both be turned off in the settings menu, my duaghter left the ipod downstairs once with wifi on and I had my esmog detector on for some reason, which picked up the wifi from the ipod searching for a network to link up with so ipod wifi is strong enough to register on a esmog puk In a message dated 5/5/2013 2:10:43 A.M. Dateline Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I have an iPod Classic and I wanted to get a portable speaker for travel. My options for good sound were limited to devices that were called Bluetooth speakers that also allow you to sync with cell phones and computes to hear voices thru the speaker. Well, there is no manual and no info about these devices to say if the Bluetooth is only enabled when you Sync with a wireless device. Against my better judgement I made a rash decision and got the JBL Flip Wireless Stereo Speaker that looks like a sausage. The IPod Classic plugs into it via a standard jack and I am assuming that since Bluetooth only receives signals, but does not transmit anything, that as long as I am just using the iPod through the plug in, that I am not activating any wireless frequencies. However, I do not know how these devices work. I measured it with my Acoustimeter and did not get anything from it when it was on. It has a NIckel Cad battery that has to be charged up. After I turn off the iPod, the light on the speakers keeps flashing for an hour. Is it seeking a wireless device? Anybody know if these Bluetooth devices are a no no for Electrosensitives? I have 13 days to return the item if necessary. While standing next to all the display models of Bluetooth Capable Speakers at Best Buy, I had a really bad reaction like I was being stabbed in the stomach. I normally only get that reaction to wireless, but there was a lot of stuff that was plugged in there that may have given off high EMF. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes, it is a heavy subject Patricia, and I'm trying my best to lighten my load. :-) I agree. My point is that we have the awareness of how we are being manipulated, but we also have the power and free will to not participate as we choose! In other words, we can choose enlightenment regardless if anyone else does or not. It's starts within us, in the choices that we make, and then it expands outward as we interact with others...
It's the same with ES. We choose not to participate in technology that harms us, and as we interact with our friends and families, that understanding can begin to change attitudes and awareness. :-) Tim ________________________________ From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless not to get really heavy, tim, but i agree with lizzie. the point is not just that we can use a different system to make exchange happen, but that those who accrue the most money also then can buy people to do things not only that the 'rich' do not care to do for themselves, such as cook or drive or whatever, but they can also buy people to go to war, to make laws that benefit those who do play the game well. they can afford to buy entire govts to do their bidding. that is the situation right now in the US. the govt does not do what the american people really want it to do… it does what the 'owners' of the 'biggest piles' want it to do. real people don't want to go to war. real people don't want chemtrails and EMFs and fluoride and GMOs. real people want to enjoy life, have families, be happy, creative, make a contribution to the quality of life on the planet, etc. they want to simply have a home and not have to move over and over again. the people with the biggest piles want simply to increase their piles - with oil, gold, silver, slavery, human tissue trafficking, bogus medicine, matters of law, whatever can make money for them… and many of their goals are not conducive to the continuation of life. when they finally catch on that they are cutting of the very branch they are sitting on, perhaps it will end. i think it will take a 'scrooge moment' for them to turn around. otherwise, they have it in their mind that they need to amass the biggest fortune - or they will surely die. that is the real problem with greed - it goes for riches for a few, rather than quality of life for all. this is opposed to universal laws, so something will give sooner or later. so i agree 100% that the real problem is that the game is all about control… and control by people who aren't necessarily loving or kind or wise or very evolved… for if they truly were evolved, 'enlightened', then they would never want to harm anyone. love, patricia On May 5, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote: > Yes, but there are ways to live in the world but not of it... We can network with others, barter, build community, become more self sufficient and self aware, etc. I may not be able to change the game, but I don't have to play it as often. I can lessen it's impact, just like ES! ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You are both correct.
To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 18:23:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless Yes, it is a heavy subject Patricia, and I'm trying my best to lighten my load. :-) I agree. My point is that we have the awareness of how we are being manipulated, but we also have the power and free will to not participate as we choose! In other words, we can choose enlightenment regardless if anyone else does or not. It's starts within us, in the choices that we make, and then it expands outward as we interact with others... It's the same with ES. We choose not to participate in technology that harms us, and as we interact with our friends and families, that understanding can begin to change attitudes and awareness. :-) Tim ________________________________ From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Replacing copper with wireless not to get really heavy, tim, but i agree with lizzie. the point is not just that we can use a different system to make exchange happen, but that those who accrue the most money also then can buy people to do things not only that the 'rich' do not care to do for themselves, such as cook or drive or whatever, but they can also buy people to go to war, to make laws that benefit those who do play the game well. they can afford to buy entire govts to do their bidding. that is the situation right now in the US. the govt does not do what the american people really want it to do it does what the 'owners' of the 'biggest piles' want it to do. real people don't want to go to war. real people don't want chemtrails and EMFs and fluoride and GMOs. real people want to enjoy life, have families, be happy, creative, make a contribution to the quality of life on the planet, etc. they want to simply have a home and not have to move over and over again. the people with the biggest piles want simply to increase their piles - with oil, gold, silver, slavery, human tissue trafficking, bogus medicine, matters of law, whatever can make money for them and many of their goals are not conducive to the continuation of life. when they finally catch on that they are cutting of the very branch they are sitting on, perhaps it will end. i think it will take a 'scrooge moment' for them to turn around. otherwise, they have it in their mind that they need to amass the biggest fortune - or they will surely die. that is the real problem with greed - it goes for riches for a few, rather than quality of life for all. this is opposed to universal laws, so something will give sooner or later. so i agree 100% that the real problem is that the game is all about control and control by people who aren't necessarily loving or kind or wise or very evolved for if they truly were evolved, 'enlightened', then they would never want to harm anyone. love, patricia On May 5, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote: > Yes, but there are ways to live in the world but not of it... We can network with others, barter, build community, become more self sufficient and self aware, etc. I may not be able to change the game, but I don't have to play it as often. I can lessen it's impact, just like ES! ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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