Remote Locations?

>However, I have certainly
>noticed here that people have moved to remote locations
>only to discover that it was intolerable there too!
 
Hey Marc you mentioned this. Do you remember why it was intolerable. I know there are cell towers even in remote locations so maybe that is why. I certainly feel better away from all the pollution.
 
Loni


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I'm watching a Discovery channel special about the "Ghost Bears" of the Mid-Coast Islands in British Columbia. I'd so love to live there, but know that B.C. is having Smart Meters installed as we speak! I'm actually trying to find out of the Mid-Coast islands will also be getting SMs, b/c if not, I might start trying to find a way to live on the protected lands of the Kidisu people, altho Marc is right, there's so many variables now, that it's almost impossible to determine if your "remote" location is actually remote enough! Sigh :|

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      >However, I have certainly

>noticed here that people have moved to remote locations

>only to discover that it was intolerable there too!

 

Hey Marc you mentioned this. Do you remember why it was intolerable. I know there are cell towers even in remote locations so maybe that is why. I certainly feel better away from all the pollution.

 

Loni



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> Hey Marc you mentioned this. Do you remember why it was intolerable. I know there are cell
> towers even in remote locations so maybe that is why. I certainly feel better away from all the
> pollution.

I seem to recall cases where there was a cellphone or microwave tower off in the
distance?  

Also, if the house you are living in has electricity, then the problems may be coming
from inside the house -- bad wiring, nasty electronics, etc.

Marc

Hi Marc!
 
How do you check for bad wiring?  Any nasty electronics? Aren't they all nasty?
 
Also what's the difference between cell antennas and microwave antennas?
 
Loni

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Remote Locations?
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> Hey Marc you mentioned this. Do you remember why it was intolerable. I know there are cell
> towers even in remote locations so maybe that is why. I certainly feel better away from all the
> pollution.

I seem to recall cases where there was a cellphone or microwave tower off in the
distance?

Also, if the house you are living in has electricity, then the problems may be coming
from inside the house -- bad wiring, nasty electronics, etc.

Marc







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> How do you check for bad wiring?  Any nasty electronics? Aren't they all nasty?

Well, a consumer could check the outlets using an outlet tester.  And I suppose
they could check for excessive EMF coming from the walls, but an electrician
would be needed to fix that.

And no, not all electronics are nasty -- some are far nastier than others,
and it's not apparent from just by looking at them.  I often cite by
5 Blu-ray players as an example -- I only consider one of them to
be "tolerable".
 
> Also what's the difference between cell antennas and microwave antennas?

Cell antennas communicate with cellphones, and microwave antennas
are for more specialized, industrial/business usage.

Marc

Marc,
 
Where would I get an outlet tester?
 
Which Blue Ray Player do you have? My husband wants one!
 
Isn't cell antennas considered microwave radiation?  There is a microwave antenna on the mountain near by. Would that be considered more powerful radiation?
 
Loni
 


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Subject: Re: [eSens] Remote Locations?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 5:12 PM


 



> How do you check for bad wiring?  Any nasty electronics? Aren't they all nasty?

Well, a consumer could check the outlets using an outlet tester. And I suppose
they could check for excessive EMF coming from the walls, but an electrician
would be needed to fix that.

And no, not all electronics are nasty -- some are far nastier than others,
and it's not apparent from just by looking at them. I often cite by
5 Blu-ray players as an example -- I only consider one of them to
be "tolerable".
 
> Also what's the difference between cell antennas and microwave antennas?

Cell antennas communicate with cellphones, and microwave antennas
are for more specialized, industrial/business usage.

Marc







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> Where would I get an outlet tester?

Probably a local hardware store would have them.  Or Amazon.com:

  http://www.amazon.com/50542-Receptacle-Tester-Improper-Indicator/dp/B002LZTKIA
  
> Which Blue Ray Player do you have? My husband wants one!

You husband probably won't want the one that I found to be the most
tolerable from an ES standpoint, because it is the oldest and most
sluggish (long wait times) Blu-ray player I tried!  But it's the Sony BDP-S1,
which originally cost $1000 in 2006, but I got a used one for $60 on eBay:

  http://www.blu-ray.com/Sony-BDP-S1/5/

I found some newer models (some which have built-in ethernet and wi-fi!)
to not be tolerable, but this one is perfectly fine.

> Isn't cell antennas considered microwave radiation?  There is a microwave
> antenna on the mountain near by. Would that be considered more
> powerful radiation?

Cellphone antennas are using the microwave spectrum.  But there are
other towers/antennas transmitting in this spectrum -- and other spectrums!
I can't really say which would be more harmful...

Marc

Buy a outlet checker at the hardware store. It will light up to indicate if
your circuits are wired correct.


less EMF has an outlet checker that will tell you the #'s beyond most.

Cell phone antennas omit microwave radiation. 

Kathy

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      Marc,

 

Where would I get an outlet tester?

 

Which Blue Ray Player do you have? My husband wants one!

 

Isn't cell antennas considered microwave radiation?  There is a microwave antenna on the mountain near by. Would that be considered more powerful radiation?

 

Loni

 


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Also what's the difference between cell antennas and microwave antennas?

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Cell antennas communicate with cellphones, and microwave antennas

are for more specialized, industrial/business usage.



Marc





   
     

   
   


 



 










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Thanks Marc

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
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Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 11:36 AM


 



> Where would I get an outlet tester?

Probably a local hardware store would have them. Or Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/50542-Receptacle-Tester-Improper-Indicator/dp/B002LZTKIA
 
> Which Blue Ray Player do you have? My husband wants one!

You husband probably won't want the one that I found to be the most
tolerable from an ES standpoint, because it is the oldest and most
sluggish (long wait times) Blu-ray player I tried! But it's the Sony BDP-S1,
which originally cost $1000 in 2006, but I got a used one for $60 on eBay:

http://www.blu-ray.com/Sony-BDP-S1/5/

I found some newer models (some which have built-in ethernet and wi-fi!)
to not be tolerable, but this one is perfectly fine.

> Isn't cell antennas considered microwave radiation?  There is a microwave
> antenna on the mountain near by. Would that be considered more
> powerful radiation?

Cellphone antennas are using the microwave spectrum. But there are
other towers/antennas transmitting in this spectrum -- and other spectrums!
I can't really say which would be more harmful...

Marc







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Thanks Kathy. So you think the lessemf outlet checker is better than the store bought?  Loni

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Buy a outlet checker at the hardware store. It will light up to indicate if
your circuits are wired correct.

less EMF has an outlet checker that will tell you the #'s beyond most.

Cell phone antennas omit microwave radiation. 

Kathy

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Subject: [eSens] Re: Outlet Testers

 

Marc,

 

Where would I get an outlet tester?

 

Which Blue Ray Player do you have? My husband wants one!

 

Isn't cell antennas considered microwave radiation?  There is a microwave antenna on the mountain near by. Would that be considered more powerful radiation?

 

Loni

 

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Also what's the difference between cell antennas and microwave antennas?

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Cell antennas communicate with cellphones, and microwave antennas

are for more specialized, industrial/business usage.

Marc

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> Thanks Kathy. So you think the lessemf outlet checker is better than the store bought?  Loni

Shouldn't be any better -- both should give the same answers as to whether your
outlet is wired correctly...

Marc

Loni,

I'm sorry, their outlet tester looks about the same to me. .

It has 3 prongs,LED lights. Has a picture of how it
should light up
showing correct,  various  problems.

Kathy


 

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