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Reduce EMF through positive thinking

Stefanie Toth
Hi All,

I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said
1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.
2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF

I would like to hear your opinion about it.

Thank you very much,
Stefanie

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charles-4
That is nonsense.

Electrosensitive persons are not afraid, and do not know they are exposed to elektrosmog.
But after they got ill and measured, they know what is going on.

Sure, there is a part *between the ears*.
If you think, that you are going to feel a lot, you will feel a lot.
But if you hold your mind, and do not want to feel elektrosmog, when exposed, you will feel less.
That is true.

Mercury is stark related to electrosensitivity, as well as other poisonous materials.
If you get rid of it, the sensitivity will lessen.

I have found that most electrosensitives do have a great shortage of Calcium, Magnesium and Iron.
And many Vitamins and specials salts.
They also have an amount of Calcium loss.

I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.
Overhere some 70 persons are quite happy with it.
I also have developed a small device, which  will repair the damaged immune system.
I offered to send a free sample to Puk in England, but he refused to give me a postal address, so I could not send it.
The testing period is already over.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  From: Stefanie Toth
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:14 AM
  Subject: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking


  Hi All,

  I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said
  1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.
  2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF

  I would like to hear your opinion about it.

  Thank you very much,
  Stefanie



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Re: Reduce EMF through positive thinking

Marc Martin
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On February  5, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said
> 1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.
> 2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF

That person doesn't know what they are talking about...

Many people are harmed by EMF without even knowing what the
cause is, so they are certainly not afraid of it.  I think we've had
people here in the past suggest positive thinking, although I can't
recall anyone "cured" by it.  Meanwhile, some people HAVE been
cured by doing a heavy metal/mercury detox.

Marc
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Elizabeth thode
 There is truth here, in both Stefanie's question and in Marc's response. Positive thinking -especially feeling gratitude is a very high frequency.We are all beings of frequency. (Anyone see the movie: Beings of Frequency?) And just like we can't visibly see emfs, we don't visibly see frequencies of thoughts.What we can see, are the effects. In my opinion, thinking thoughts of gratitude, being grateful for what we do have,does help raise the frequency of the body.
 So...can thinking positive thoughts help? Yes, by raising the body's frequency. Can being greatly fearful  serve to lower the body's frequency. Yes. Because "fear" is a lower frequency.And the lower the frequency, the more susceptible the human body is to anything that has the potential to cause harm.  Now, as to the statement: emfs can only harm if we are afraid of them. History is full of examples of dangerous products, industry, ect, that many did not know were dangerous,and thus did not fear them...and great harm was caused by those dangerous products/ industries, ect.Some examples are: Asbestos, Silver Mercury fillings, Vaccines, GMO foods and over use of X-rays.  Bottom line: Thinking positive thoughts can help to raise the body's frequency, making it less susceptible to agents of harm.But the false belief that we can only be injured or harmed by things if we fear them- has been proven to NOT be true.   Mercury is highly toxic. From what I've seen/read, the majority of people with ES, also had mercury silver fillings. And those few,  who didn't, were exposed to heavy metals and other toxins, like pesticides, chemicals, ect. So it very much appears, that a history of exposure to toxins, does play a role in ES.  And last: Has anyone ever been cured by positive thinking alone?The only examples I can give you, are: Firewalkers. "Absolute Conviction Is Untouchable."  Those firewalkers are able to walk on hot coals, and aren't just thinking they won't be harmed,they have convinced themselves completely, they won't be burned. I'm not a betting person, but in this case, I'd bet that the Firewalkers are not thinking lower frequency thoughts.  blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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      On February  5, Stefanie Toth [hidden email]> wrote:

> I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said

> 1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.

> 2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF



That person doesn't know what they are talking about...



Many people are harmed by EMF without even knowing what the

cause is, so they are certainly not afraid of it.  I think we've had

people here in the past suggest positive thinking, although I can't

recall anyone "cured" by it.  Meanwhile, some people HAVE been

cured by doing a heavy metal/mercury detox.



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Re: Reduce EMF through positive thinking

Patricia
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point 1 is not outrageous to me at all.
when we are afraid, we hold our breath.
when we are relaxed, we breathe easy.  
the other day i realized i was reacting
to EMF and my body was tensing up in
headachy feelings and tension in my
heart area, so i made a conscious
effort to breathe into the tension.  that
is the essence of all healing.  
it is not 'positive thinking' as much as it
is about relaxing and letting go of the
fear/tension -  and returning to free,
fully, easy breathing.

point 2? - i can't agree with that.  merc
and other heavy metals seem to me to
be magnets for EMR.  

patricia



On Feb 5, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Stefanie Toth wrote:

> I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said
> 1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.
> 2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF
>
> I would like to hear your opinion about it.


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CHELSEAPAUL
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Charles,
 
I am really interested in your device that helps to repair the damaged immune system, as I strongly beleive that this is the main cause of my electrosensitivity.
 
Would it be possible for you to send me one?  I am prepared to pay.
 
I would really appreciate it, I can provide sending details if you are happy..
 
Thanks
 
Paul
 

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 From: charles <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking
   
 
   
 
That is nonsense.

Electrosensitive persons are not afraid, and do not know they are exposed to elektrosmog.
But after they got ill and measured, they know what is going on.

Sure, there is a part *between the ears*.
If you think, that you are going to feel a lot, you will feel a lot.
But if you hold your mind, and do not want to feel elektrosmog, when exposed, you will feel less.
That is true.

Mercury is stark related to electrosensitivity, as well as other poisonous materials.
If you get rid of it, the sensitivity will lessen.

I have found that most electrosensitives do have a great shortage of Calcium, Magnesium and Iron.
And many Vitamins and specials salts.
They also have an amount of Calcium loss.

I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.
Overhere some 70 persons are quite happy with it.
I also have developed a small device, which  will repair the damaged immune system.
I offered to send a free sample to Puk in England, but he refused to give me a postal address, so I could not send it.
The testing period is already over.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/
http://www.milieuziektes.be/
http://www.hetbitje.nl/
checked by Emsisoft

----- Original Message -----
From: Stefanie Toth
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:14 AM
Subject: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking

Hi All,

I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said
1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.
2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF

I would like to hear your opinion about it.

Thank you very much,
Stefanie

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Elizabeth thode
 

Charles wrote:

I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity,
and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested,
I have withdrawn it.

 

 

To All: Choose your words wisely, Speak of what
you "want!"

 

 

Thoughts are magnetic, and thoughts have frequency.

As you think, those thoughts are sent out into the Universe, and
they magnetically attract all like things that are on the same
frequency.

Everything sent out returns to the source. And that source is You!

Lizzie


 To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:59:48 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking
















 



 


   
     
     
      Charles,

 

I am really interested in your device that helps to repair the damaged immune system, as I strongly beleive that this is the main cause of my electrosensitivity.

 

Would it be possible for you to send me one?  I am prepared to pay.

 

I would really appreciate it, I can provide sending details if you are happy..

 

Thanks

 

Paul

 



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 From: charles [hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:39 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking

   

 

   

 

That is nonsense.



Electrosensitive persons are not afraid, and do not know they are exposed to elektrosmog.

But after they got ill and measured, they know what is going on.



Sure, there is a part *between the ears*.

If you think, that you are going to feel a lot, you will feel a lot.

But if you hold your mind, and do not want to feel elektrosmog, when exposed, you will feel less.

That is true.



Mercury is stark related to electrosensitivity, as well as other poisonous materials.

If you get rid of it, the sensitivity will lessen.



I have found that most electrosensitives do have a great shortage of Calcium, Magnesium and Iron.

And many Vitamins and specials salts.

They also have an amount of Calcium loss.



I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.

Overhere some 70 persons are quite happy with it.

I also have developed a small device, which  will repair the damaged immune system.

I offered to send a free sample to Puk in England, but he refused to give me a postal address, so I could not send it.

The testing period is already over.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/

http://www.milieuziektes.be/

http://www.hetbitje.nl/

checked by Emsisoft



----- Original Message -----

From: Stefanie Toth

To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:14 AM

Subject: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking



Hi All,



I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said

1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.

2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF



I would like to hear your opinion about it.



Thank you very much,

Stefanie



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Stefanie Toth
:-) yes, this true - unfortunately. One have to be very careful.Stefanie

--- Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 8.2.2013:

Von: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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Charles wrote:



I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity,

and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested,

I have withdrawn it.



To All: Choose your words wisely, Speak of what

you "want!"



Thoughts are magnetic, and thoughts have frequency.



As you think, those thoughts are sent out into the Universe, and

they magnetically attract all like things that are on the same

frequency.



Everything sent out returns to the source. And that source is You!



Lizzie



To: [hidden email]

From: [hidden email]

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:59:48 -0800

Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking



Charles,



I am really interested in your device that helps to repair the damaged immune system, as I strongly beleive that this is the main cause of my electrosensitivity.



Would it be possible for you to send me one?  I am prepared to pay.



I would really appreciate it, I can provide sending details if you are happy..



Thanks



Paul



________________________________



From: charles [hidden email]>



To: [hidden email]



Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:39 AM



Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking



That is nonsense.



Electrosensitive persons are not afraid, and do not know they are exposed to elektrosmog.



But after they got ill and measured, they know what is going on.



Sure, there is a part *between the ears*.



If you think, that you are going to feel a lot, you will feel a lot.



But if you hold your mind, and do not want to feel elektrosmog, when exposed, you will feel less.



That is true.



Mercury is stark related to electrosensitivity, as well as other poisonous materials.



If you get rid of it, the sensitivity will lessen.



I have found that most electrosensitives do have a great shortage of Calcium, Magnesium and Iron.



And many Vitamins and specials salts.



They also have an amount of Calcium loss.



I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.



Overhere some 70 persons are quite happy with it.



I also have developed a small device, which  will repair the damaged immune system.



I offered to send a free sample to Puk in England, but he refused to give me a postal address, so I could not send it.



The testing period is already over.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



http://www.milieuziektes.nl/



http://www.milieuziektes.be/



http://www.hetbitje.nl/



checked by Emsisoft



----- Original Message -----



From: Stefanie Toth



To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com



Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:14 AM



Subject: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking



Hi All,



I talked recently to a person who is giving acupuncture and he said



1) EMF is harming you because you are afraid of it. If you are able to think positive about EMF you can turn it into positive energy. Power flows would be just another form of energy.



2) Mercury (or too much iron in the body) is not related to EMF



I would like to hear your opinion about it.



Thank you very much,



Stefanie



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Stefanie Toth
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Thanks to all of yours who answered to my posting!
Surely I know, if you are more positive it has a positive effect on everything - but when people say I can cure my electro sensitivity through positive thinking I just feel not taken serious. This scares me, because this is one major problem of electro smoke and pollution: people just do not take it serious enough. 
Nevertheless, if we just could fight radiation and its symptoms with positive thinking we never had to worry anymore about nuclear plants and going to outer space. We would just train astronauts with a certain good meditation, turing them in a kind of fakir. I mean it is just energy, or - just another form of energy :-) .
Who the hell is believing such a nonsense. 
Thanks for sharing, Stefanie

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Patricia
stefanie, i agree that 'positive thinking' is not
necessarily going to help us.  but releasing
fear helps everything... and i can vouch for
the fact it has helped me with this condition.  
we think that by tensing up, we are protecting
ourselves from whatever threat we encounter...
however the more tense we are, the more
brittle and vulnerable we are.  it's why babies
can bounce around in car accidents, relatively
unscathed, and adults shatter into a million
pieces.  the more fear we carry, the more it
hurts us - does not protect us.  
love, patricia



On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Stefanie Toth wrote:

> Thanks to all of yours who answered to my posting!
> Surely I know, if you are more positive it has a positive effect on everything - but when people say I can cure my electro sensitivity through positive thinking I just feel not taken serious. This scares me, because this is one major problem of electro smoke and pollution: people just do not take it serious enough.
> Nevertheless, if we just could fight radiation and its symptoms with positive thinking we never had to worry anymore about nuclear plants and going to outer space. We would just train astronauts with a certain good meditation, turing them in a kind of fakir. I mean it is just energy, or - just another form of energy :-) .
> Who the hell is believing such a nonsense.


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Patricia
In reply to this post by charles-4
charles, how do you know that nobody
was interested in it?  
patricia


On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:39 AM, charles wrote:

> I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.


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charles-4
Patricia,

I have counters on my homepages, so I know of visits, as well as their origins.

Also, there are some points which need clarification or explanation, but nobody asked.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Emsisoft


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  From: Patricia Robinett
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  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:20 AM
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  charles, how do you know that nobody
  was interested in it?  
  patricia


  On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:39 AM, charles wrote:

  > I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.




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Patricia
was it free or for sale?  
love, patricia  



On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:54 AM, charles wrote:

> Patricia,
>
> I have counters on my homepages, so I know of visits, as well as their origins.
>
> Also, there are some points which need clarification or explanation, but nobody asked.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Emsisoft
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Patricia Robinett
>  To: [hidden email]
>  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:20 AM
>  Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking
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>
>  charles, how do you know that nobody
>  was interested in it?  
>  patricia
>
>
>  On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:39 AM, charles wrote:
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>> I have composed a 30 points plan to get rid of electrosensitivity, and had it placed on my website (in english), but since nobody was interested, I have withdrawn it.
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Marc Martin
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On February 10, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> was it free or for sale?  
> love, patricia  

His list of things to do for ES?  That was free... but it's hard enough
to get people to do even a few things for their ES, let alone 30... :-)

Marc
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Patricia
if it was for sale, that might have been a factor
in people backing off... but they might have used
the info and benefitted from it even without
saying anything to him about it.  
i'd love to see what it says.  
charles, want to put it back up since you have an
audience here?  
:)
love, patricia


On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

> On February 10, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> was it free or for sale?  
>> love, patricia  
>
> His list of things to do for ES?  That was free... but it's hard enough
> to get people to do even a few things for their ES, let alone 30... :-)
>
> Marc


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Ciel Carter
Charles, I'd love to read through this info, as well. 
 
Ciel
:+)


>________________________________
> From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Reduce EMF through positive thinking
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>
>   
>
>if it was for sale, that might have been a factor
>in people backing off... but they might have used
>the info and benefitted from it even without
>saying anything to him about it.
>i'd love to see what it says.
>charles, want to put it back up since you have an
>audience here?
>:)
>love, patricia
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