Re: faraday cage not helping

>
> Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers inside
> each thread.
> The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is still
> some cellphone
> signal at least near the corners.
>
> I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though it looks
> nice aesthetically).
> My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
>
> The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside.  And the magnetic fields
> were already
> pretty low.
>
> I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the fabric is
> rated much better
> but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
>
> One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really quiet,
> the tinnitus seems louder.  Maybe having a variety of exposures at different
> frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer, and the
> tent may shield most but not all?
>
> Or maybe something else...
> Bill
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers  
> inside
> each thread.
> The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is  
> still
> some cellphone
> signal at least near the corners.
>
> I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though  
> it looks
> nice aesthetically).
> My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
>
> The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside.  And the magnetic  
> fields
> were already
> pretty low.
>
> I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the  
> fabric is
> rated much better
> but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
>
> One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really  
> quiet,
> the tinnitus seems louder.  Maybe having a variety of exposures at  
> different
> frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,  
> and the
> tent may shield most but not all?
>
> Or maybe something else...
> Bill
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,  
> grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to  
> do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh  
> and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the  
> copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including  
> electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing  
> material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to  
> see if that helps.
> I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do  
> if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> Andrew
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
>
> > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers  
> > inside
> > each thread.
> > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is  
> > still
> > some cellphone
> > signal at least near the corners.
> >
> > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though  
> > it looks
> > nice aesthetically).
> > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> >
> > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside.  And the magnetic  
> > fields
> > were already
> > pretty low.
> >
> > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the  
> > fabric is
> > rated much better
> > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> >
> > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really  
> > quiet,
> > the tinnitus seems louder.  Maybe having a variety of exposures at  
> > different
> > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,  
> > and the
> > tent may shield most but not all?
> >
> > Or maybe something else...
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew McAfee
> Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
>
> 919.787.3022 (home)
> 919.962-2492 (office)
>
> andrewmcafee1@...
> www.hornlessons.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,  
> grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to  
> do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh  
> and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the  
> copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including  
> electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing  
> material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to  
> see if that helps.
> I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do  
> if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> Andrew
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
>
> > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers  
> > inside
> > each thread.
> > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is  
> > still
> > some cellphone
> > signal at least near the corners.
> >
> > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though  
> > it looks
> > nice aesthetically).
> > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> >
> > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside.  And the magnetic  
> > fields
> > were already
> > pretty low.
> >
> > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the  
> > fabric is
> > rated much better
> > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> >
> > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really  
> > quiet,
> > the tinnitus seems louder.  Maybe having a variety of exposures at  
> > different
> > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,  
> > and the
> > tent may shield most but not all?
> >
> > Or maybe something else...
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew McAfee
> Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
>
> 919.787.3022 (home)
> 919.962-2492 (office)
>
> andrewmcafee1@...
> www.hornlessons.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
> inside
> each thread.
> The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
> still
> some cellphone
> signal at least near the corners.
>
> I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
> it looks
> nice aesthetically).
> My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
>
> The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
> fields
> were already
> pretty low.
>
> I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
> fabric is
> rated much better
> but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
>
> One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
> quiet,
> the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
> different
> frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
> and the
> tent may shield most but not all?
>
> Or maybe something else...
> Bill
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> I too put the protective paint on the walls & have not been able to sleep in that room yet. Still ES symptoms. However the biologist tested & the measurement was very low in that room. Not sure what is going on. Interesting it did not help you either Andrew.
>  
> I don't think anyone could guarantee you what they did would ensure you could sleep in that room.
>  
> Loni
>
> --- On Thu, 2/17/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] faraday cage not helping
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 6:17 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,
> grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to
> do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh
> and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the
> copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including
> electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing
> material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to
> see if that helps.
> I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do
> if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> Andrew
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
>
> > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
> > inside
> > each thread.
> > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
> > still
> > some cellphone
> > signal at least near the corners.
> >
> > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
> > it looks
> > nice aesthetically).
> > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> >
> > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
> > fields
> > were already
> > pretty low.
> >
> > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
> > fabric is
> > rated much better
> > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> >
> > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
> > quiet,
> > the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
> > different
> > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
> > and the
> > tent may shield most but not all?
> >
> > Or maybe something else...
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew McAfee
> Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
>
> 919.787.3022 (home)
> 919.962-2492 (office)
>
> andrewmcafee1@...
> www.hornlessons.org
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> I too put the protective paint on the walls & have not been able to sleep
> in that room yet. Still ES symptoms. However the biologist tested & the
> measurement was very low in that room. Not sure what is going on.
> Interesting it did not help you either Andrew.
>
> I don't think anyone could guarantee you what they did would ensure you
> could sleep in that room.
>
> Loni
>
> --- On Thu, 2/17/11, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] faraday cage not helping
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 6:17 AM
>
>
>
> I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,
> grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to
> do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh
> and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the
> copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including
> electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing
> material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to
> see if that helps.
> I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do
> if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> Andrew
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
>
> > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
> > inside
> > each thread.
> > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
> > still
> > some cellphone
> > signal at least near the corners.
> >
> > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
> > it looks
> > nice aesthetically).
> > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> >
> > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
> > fields
> > were already
> > pretty low.
> >
> > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
> > fabric is
> > rated much better
> > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> >
> > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
> > quiet,
> > the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
> > different
> > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
> > and the
> > tent may shield most but not all?
> >
> > Or maybe something else...
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew McAfee
> Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
>
> 919.787.3022 (home)
> 919.962-2492 (office)
>
> [hidden email]
> www.hornlessons.org
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>

>
> I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,  
> grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to  
> do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh  
> and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the  
> copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including  
> electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing  
> material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to  
> see if that helps.
> I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do  
> if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> Andrew
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
>
> > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers  
> > inside
> > each thread.
> > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is  
> > still
> > some cellphone
> > signal at least near the corners.
> >
> > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though  
> > it looks
> > nice aesthetically).
> > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> >
> > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside.  And the magnetic  
> > fields
> > were already
> > pretty low.
> >
> > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the  
> > fabric is
> > rated much better
> > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> >
> > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really  
> > quiet,
> > the tinnitus seems louder.  Maybe having a variety of exposures at  
> > different
> > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,  
> > and the
> > tent may shield most but not all?
> >
> > Or maybe something else...
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew McAfee
> Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
>
> 919.787.3022 (home)
> 919.962-2492 (office)
>
> andrewmcafee1@...
> www.hornlessons.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Loni,
> Andrew,
>
> Maybe you need an absorber on the inside of the room to make it work really good?
>
> Posts on this:
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/15061
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/19588
>
> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
> >
> > I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,
> > grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to
> > do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh
> > and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the
> > copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> > My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including
> > electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing
> > material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to
> > see if that helps.
> > I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do
> > if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> > Andrew
> > Raleigh, NC
> >
> > On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
> >
> > > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
> > > inside
> > > each thread.
> > > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
> > > still
> > > some cellphone
> > > signal at least near the corners.
> > >
> > > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
> > > it looks
> > > nice aesthetically).
> > > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> > >
> > > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
> > > fields
> > > were already
> > > pretty low.
> > >
> > > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
> > > fabric is
> > > rated much better
> > > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> > >
> > > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
> > > quiet,
> > > the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
> > > different
> > > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
> > > and the
> > > tent may shield most but not all?
> > >
> > > Or maybe something else...
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Andrew McAfee
> > Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> > Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> > Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
> >
> > 919.787.3022 (home)
> > 919.962-2492 (office)
> >
> > andrewmcafee1@...
> > www.hornlessons.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

>
> I had a silver canopy over my bed too.  No groundsheet.
>
> When I went inside to measure it it was very low. So I thought it was working.  then one day I took the meter in again to see if there was a difference from day to day.  I got out and left the meter inside. The meter started to go very high- up and up and up - higher than what it was outside?  How could this be.
>
> When I was inside - I was absorbing the radiation. I was the microwave absorber.
>
> The canopy was acting as a sate-light dish. I was the focal point inside.  The radiation was coming up from the floor below.
>
> So check that first.  Are you on the first floor? It will come up from the basement too.
>
> It's extremely hard to shield a room and not have you become the microwave absorber.  You shield walls to reflect radiation from entering your house.  You put in Low e glass to stop it from coming into your windows - The radiation inside the room needs to find a way out -  or get adsorbed into the wall -  or it will go into you.
>
> http://www.engineering.unl.edu/publications/blueprint/Fall08/05.shtml
>
>
>
>
> On 2011-02-17, at 4:04 PM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote:
>
> > Loni,
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Maybe you need an absorber on the inside of the room to make it work really good?
> >
> > Posts on this:
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/15061
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/19588
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,
> > > grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to
> > > do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh
> > > and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the
> > > copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> > > My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including
> > > electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing
> > > material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to
> > > see if that helps.
> > > I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do
> > > if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> > > Andrew
> > > Raleigh, NC
> > >
> > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
> > >
> > > > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
> > > > inside
> > > > each thread.
> > > > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
> > > > still
> > > > some cellphone
> > > > signal at least near the corners.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
> > > > it looks
> > > > nice aesthetically).
> > > > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> > > >
> > > > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
> > > > fields
> > > > were already
> > > > pretty low.
> > > >
> > > > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
> > > > fabric is
> > > > rated much better
> > > > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> > > >
> > > > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
> > > > quiet,
> > > > the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
> > > > different
> > > > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
> > > > and the
> > > > tent may shield most but not all?
> > > >
> > > > Or maybe something else...
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Andrew McAfee
> > > Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> > > Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> > > Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
> > >
> > > 919.787.3022 (home)
> > > 919.962-2492 (office)
> > >
> > > andrewmcafee1@
> > > www.hornlessons.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,  
> grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to  
> do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh  
> and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the  
> copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including  
> electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing  
> material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to  
> see if that helps.
> I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do  
> if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> Andrew
> Raleigh, NC

>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> In the beginning, I made the mistake of only considering wireless radiation and not electrical radiation.  Later, I realized that electrical radiation from wires in the walls/floors was also affecting me all along.
>
> IMPORTANT: The copper paint and silver mesh, while blocking microwaves, may increase electrical exposure due to their conductivity. (Listen to Camilla's interview with Vicki Warren on electromagnetichealth.org).  Thus, when attempting microwave shielding, try to turn off the circuit breakers most affecting your room's electrical wiring.  If necessary, route in a power extension cable from outside-- you can even make a shielded power cable.
> See: http://www.emfcenter.com/emffree.htm for ideas on what is being done in California
>
> My suggestions:
> 1. Get an AM radio <$20: You need to turn off any sources of digital harmonics such as dimmer switches and plasma TV's and computers. Dimmer switches and plasma TV's in another room could still affect you if the wiring is somehow going through your room.  
> 2. Get a cheap non-contact voltage detector <$20.  You'll find that a metal table near energized wires hidden in floors/walls can also become slightly energized if it's close enough.
> 3. Get a body voltage meter, or make your own. Find out which circuit breakers most impact your room, and see which can be permanently turned off.  Replace metal bed frame with wooden.  
>
> For some illustrations, check:
> http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> >
> > I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,  
> > grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to  
> > do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh  
> > and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the  
> > copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> > My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including  
> > electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing  
> > material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to  
> > see if that helps.
> > I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do  
> > if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> > Andrew
> > Raleigh, NC
>

>
>
> I agree with your suggestion about turning off the electricity in the bedroom with a dipole switch.  That is what I have done as well.  My bedroom was the worst room in the house.  I slept on the couch in the living room for years.  But I continued to work on the bedroom.  I've done so many things to that room.  Things which most people would not consider doing.  I have lots of shielding in the form of velostat which blocks microwaves as well.  I spent whole rolls of the stuff just making a canopy protection around the bed in that room.  But still I could not sleep in the room.  Till I did something that I can't explain.  While looking at other homes I noticed the effect all wood houses had on me.  I live in a metal mobile home and needed some of the wood effect.  So I took some tongue and groove wood and build a wood canopy directly on the walls in the corner of the room where my bed is.  From floor to ceiling on both the headrest side and the wall on one side of the bed and also across the ceiling.  I put a couple inches of space between the wood and the shielding on the wall and crammed pink insulation into that space.  I have not slept one night on the couch in the living room since I did that.  I am sleeping like a baby again.  It can be done.
> --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > In the beginning, I made the mistake of only considering wireless radiation and not electrical radiation.  Later, I realized that electrical radiation from wires in the walls/floors was also affecting me all along.
> >
> > IMPORTANT: The copper paint and silver mesh, while blocking microwaves, may increase electrical exposure due to their conductivity. (Listen to Camilla's interview with Vicki Warren on electromagnetichealth.org).  Thus, when attempting microwave shielding, try to turn off the circuit breakers most affecting your room's electrical wiring.  If necessary, route in a power extension cable from outside-- you can even make a shielded power cable.
> > See: http://www.emfcenter.com/emffree.htm for ideas on what is being done in California
> >
> > My suggestions:
> > 1. Get an AM radio <$20: You need to turn off any sources of digital harmonics such as dimmer switches and plasma TV's and computers. Dimmer switches and plasma TV's in another room could still affect you if the wiring is somehow going through your room.  
> > 2. Get a cheap non-contact voltage detector <$20.  You'll find that a metal table near energized wires hidden in floors/walls can also become slightly energized if it's close enough.
> > 3. Get a body voltage meter, or make your own. Find out which circuit breakers most impact your room, and see which can be permanently turned off.  Replace metal bed frame with wooden.  
> >
> > For some illustrations, check:
> > http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,  
> > > grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to  
> > > do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh  
> > > and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the  
> > > copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> > > My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including  
> > > electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing  
> > > material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to  
> > > see if that helps.
> > > I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do  
> > > if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> > > Andrew
> > > Raleigh, NC
> >
>

>
>
> Very interesting, I start to understand the problem with shielding! It's
> not easy that's for sure...
>
> I wonder if you have a perfect anechoic room on the ground floor without
> shielding on the floor (so no problem for earth/Schuman waves), wouldn't
> that be perfect?
> (other than costing a fortune)
>
> Charles wrote on anechoic rooms:
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/302
>
> There are cages, used by the military and research laboratories (a glimpse
> you may see in my english version of *het bitje*), which they call
> *anechoic
> rooms*. They are completely shielded.
> A number of people have difficulties in there. They feel very uncomfortable
> in it. I know people who had to leave after 10 minutes.
> Astronauts nowadays do have a Schumann (7.83 Hz) frequency generator with
> them, when they go out into space.
> In an anechoic room, these Schumann frequencies are shielded off also.
> The same goes for a totally shielded room.
>
> Therefore I wrote:
> >"But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded.
> >Always leave something open."
> There must always be an opening where the cosmic radiation can enter your
> room.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...> wrote:
> >
> > I had a silver canopy over my bed too. No groundsheet.
> >
> > When I went inside to measure it it was very low. So I thought it was
> working. then one day I took the meter in again to see if there was a
> difference from day to day. I got out and left the meter inside. The meter
> started to go very high- up and up and up - higher than what it was outside?
> How could this be.
> >
> > When I was inside - I was absorbing the radiation. I was the microwave
> absorber.
> >
> > The canopy was acting as a sate-light dish. I was the focal point inside.
> The radiation was coming up from the floor below.
> >
> > So check that first. Are you on the first floor? It will come up from the
> basement too.
> >
> > It's extremely hard to shield a room and not have you become the
> microwave absorber. You shield walls to reflect radiation from entering your
> house. You put in Low e glass to stop it from coming into your windows - The
> radiation inside the room needs to find a way out - or get adsorbed into the
> wall - or it will go into you.
> >
> > http://www.engineering.unl.edu/publications/blueprint/Fall08/05.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2011-02-17, at 4:04 PM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote:
> >
> > > Loni,
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > > Maybe you need an absorber on the inside of the room to make it work
> really good?
> > >
> > > Posts on this:
> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/15061
> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/19588
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the bed,
>
> > > > grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to
> > > > do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the mesh
>
> > > > and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even the
>
> > > > copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
> > > > My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including
> > > > electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing
> > > > material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows to
>
> > > > see if that helps.
> > > > I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to do
>
> > > > if they guaranteed I would feel better.
> > > > Andrew
> > > > Raleigh, NC
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
> > > > > inside
> > > > > each thread.
> > > > > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
> > > > > still
> > > > > some cellphone
> > > > > signal at least near the corners.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
> > > > > it looks
> > > > > nice aesthetically).
> > > > > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
> > > > > fields
> > > > > were already
> > > > > pretty low.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
> > > > > fabric is
> > > > > rated much better
> > > > > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
> > > > > quiet,
> > > > > the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
> > > > > different
> > > > > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
> > > > > and the
> > > > > tent may shield most but not all?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or maybe something else...
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Andrew McAfee
> > > > Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> > > > Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
> > > > Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
> > > >
> > > > 919.787.3022 (home)
> > > > 919.962-2492 (office)
> > > >
> > > > andrewmcafee1@
> > > > www.hornlessons.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>

> Your typical military/indusrial  copper screen room
> will not shield Schumann frequencies.  The steel ones
> would, and possibly the thick aluminum ones used for  MEG
> and such.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:36 PM, stephen_vandevijvere <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting, I start to understand the problem with shielding! It's
>> not easy that's for sure...
>>
>> I wonder if you have a perfect anechoic room on the ground floor without
>> shielding on the floor (so no problem for earth/Schuman waves), wouldn't
>> that be perfect?
>> (other than costing a fortune)
>>
>> Charles wrote on anechoic rooms:
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/302
>>
>> There are cages, used by the military and research laboratories (a glimpse
>> you may see in my english version of *het bitje*), which they call
>> *anechoic
>> rooms*. They are completely shielded.
>> A number of people have difficulties in there. They feel very
>> uncomfortable
>> in it. I know people who had to leave after 10 minutes.
>> Astronauts nowadays do have a Schumann (7.83 Hz) frequency generator with
>> them, when they go out into space.
>> In an anechoic room, these Schumann frequencies are shielded off also.
>> The same goes for a totally shielded room.
>>
>> Therefore I wrote:
>> >"But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded.
>> >Always leave something open."
>> There must always be an opening where the cosmic radiation can enter your
>> room.
>>
>>
>> --- In [hidden email], Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I had a silver canopy over my bed too. No groundsheet.
>> >
>> > When I went inside to measure it it was very low. So I thought it was
>> working. then one day I took the meter in again to see if there was a
>> difference from day to day. I got out and left the meter inside. The meter
>> started to go very high- up and up and up - higher than what it was outside?
>> How could this be.
>> >
>> > When I was inside - I was absorbing the radiation. I was the microwave
>> absorber.
>> >
>> > The canopy was acting as a sate-light dish. I was the focal point
>> inside. The radiation was coming up from the floor below.
>> >
>> > So check that first. Are you on the first floor? It will come up from
>> the basement too.
>> >
>> > It's extremely hard to shield a room and not have you become the
>> microwave absorber. You shield walls to reflect radiation from entering your
>> house. You put in Low e glass to stop it from coming into your windows - The
>> radiation inside the room needs to find a way out - or get adsorbed into the
>> wall - or it will go into you.
>> >
>> > http://www.engineering.unl.edu/publications/blueprint/Fall08/05.shtml
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2011-02-17, at 4:04 PM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote:
>> >
>> > > Loni,
>> > > Andrew,
>> > >
>> > > Maybe you need an absorber on the inside of the room to make it work
>> really good?
>> > >
>> > > Posts on this:
>> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/15061
>> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/19588
>> > >
>> > > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I too have not had success with a faraday silver mesh around the
>> bed,
>> > > > grounded or ungrounded. I would love for someone to tell me what to
>> > > > do to make it work. My sense is the radiation is hovering on the
>> mesh
>> > > > and that is interfering with my auric field/electrical body. Even
>> the
>> > > > copper paint on the walls in my room increases my ES.
>> > > > My wife has spent about $50K redoing our master suite including
>> > > > electrical wires and we are going to try the microwave absorbing
>> > > > material with the silver mesh woven into curtains over the windows
>> to
>> > > > see if that helps.
>> > > > I would pay someone $500 to come into my house and tell we what to
>> do
>> > > > if they guaranteed I would feel better.
>> > > > Andrew
>> > > > Raleigh, NC
>> > > >
>> > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Someone lent me a high-end bed canopy: cotton with silvered fibers
>>
>> > > > > inside
>> > > > > each thread.
>> > > > > The microwave fields are about 10 times lower inside, but there is
>>
>> > > > > still
>> > > > > some cellphone
>> > > > > signal at least near the corners.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm not convinced I feel any better in it, possibly worse (though
>> > > > > it looks
>> > > > > nice aesthetically).
>> > > > > My wife got a headache in it but that could be a coincidence.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The reception at 135 MHz is quite quiet inside. And the magnetic
>> > > > > fields
>> > > > > were already
>> > > > > pretty low.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I am a bit disappointed that the shielding isn't better... the
>> > > > > fabric is
>> > > > > rated much better
>> > > > > but the sewing is nothing like the industrial shielding tents.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > One thought though is if you have tinnitus and go somewhere really
>>
>> > > > > quiet,
>> > > > > the tinnitus seems louder. Maybe having a variety of exposures at
>> > > > > different
>> > > > > frequencies and modulations is more tolerable than having fewer,
>> > > > > and the
>> > > > > tent may shield most but not all?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Or maybe something else...
>> > > > > Bill
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ------------------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Andrew McAfee
>> > > > Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel
>> Hill
>> > > > Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
>> > > > Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)
>> > > >
>> > > > <919.787.3022>919.787.3022 (home)
>> > > > <919.962-2492>919.962-2492 (office)
>> > > >
>> > > > andrewmcafee1@
>> > > > www.hornlessons.org
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
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