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Susan

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Hi Marc,

I am buying new cell phones either iPhone

6 or compatible android phones. Am I better

off with iPhones or android phones in regards to being sensitive. I will be using

the phone for a hot spot to get the internet

as well as using it as a phone. I will buy 2

phones so I will use one for a hot spot and

one for a phone. Using a cell phone as a

hot spot gives me less trouble then using

a modem for internet.

Thanks for your help!

Susan

On Sunday, October 20, 2019, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Well. given all the reports of adverse reactions with fiber optics, I'd say go with cable internet, and purchase your own modem, as the modem they provide you will likely have wi-fi built into it.

Marc

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Elle

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Hi, Susan,

If you are very sensitive, 2 cell phones in any area together, say same 30 feet ((and please anyone correct me with new, link to or details with better accuracy)) apart, create an amplified field called "co-location". I would say no to 2 cell phones in the same space.

I'm really surprised using the cell data as the hotspot seems better for you. Have you tried hard wired ethernet?

Cell phones are really bad for me and I get symptoms now if I am even in a room near them (5-10 feet) with everything off (wifi, data, bluetooth, and location) so just as a phone to make/receive calls and plain SMS. My head will get pressure above/beside my eyes.

If anyone has their data on and walks by me while I am seated in a waiting room, I feel it.

Just sending my thoughts so you can make the best choice. :)

Marc Martin

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Hi Susan, I think people have their own unique sensitivities that makes it impossible to recommend a cell phone that will work for everyone. And I don't have a whole lot of experience with this, because up until a year ago I could not find any phone that I could tolerate even having on for more than a couple minutes.

That said, I'm currently using an iPhone 6, which I have personally found to be more tolerable than the Android (Samsung) phones I've tried. Also, I have found that the carrier makes a huge difference for me, as the phone is far more tolerable with some carriers than others.

Specifically, using Consumer Cellular on the AT&T network is terrible for me, but using Ting on the T-Mobile network is much better. And I have just started testing Red Pocket Mobile as a carrier on the Verizon network, and my first impressions are that this is okay for me as well.

Marc

Tryingtoheal

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Marc,

I feel the same way that Consumer cellular & A T & T cause a higher reaction in me. My daughter uses US Mobil , uses a

phone case & keeps on airplane unless she needs to make a call & I tolerate that.

I wonder why the carrier makes a difference?

Kathy

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:00 AM Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Susan, I think people have their own unique sensitivities that makes it impossible to recommend a cell phone that will work for everyone. And I don't have a whole lot of experience with this, because up until a year ago I could not find any phone that I could tolerate even having on for more than a couple minutes.

That said, I'm currently using an iPhone 6, which I have personally found to be more tolerable than the Android (Samsung) phones I've tried. Also, I have found that the carrier makes a huge difference for me, as the phone is far more tolerable with some carriers than others.

Specifically, using Consumer Cellular on the AT&T network is terrible for me, but using Ting on the T-Mobile network is much better. And I have just started testing Red Pocket Mobile as a carrier on the Verizon network, and my first impressions are that this is okay for me as well.

Marc

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Marc Martin

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Kathy, I have no idea why Consumer Cellular is so much worse.... I guess if I really wanted to do some interesting testing, I'd try other carriers that have an AT&T sim card option (e.g. Red Pocket, Cricket, AT&T), and see if I react badly to those as well. Then I'd know if this was limited to Consumer Cellular, or if all carriers using AT&T sim cards are bad for me.

Certainly different carriers can use different frequencies, which may be some or all of the problem, but I wonder if there is also some additional processing going on within the phone (e.g. encryption) with some carriers vs. others?

Marc

Tryingtoheal

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Marc,

I reacted to A T & T.. .. 1st carrier I used & know someone who used

Consumer Celluar & when they were near me .. made me feel bad.

Do you know anything about US Mobil?

Kathy

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:33 AM Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Kathy, I have no idea why Consumer Cellular is so much worse.... I guess if I really wanted to do some interesting testing, I'd try other carriers that have an AT&T sim card option (e.g. Red Pocket, Cricket, AT&T), and see if I react badly to those as well. Then I'd know if this was limited to Consumer Cellular, or if all carriers using AT&T sim cards are bad for me.

Certainly different carriers can use different frequencies, which may be some or all of the problem, but I wonder if there is also some additional processing going on within the phone (e.g. encryption) with some carriers vs. others?

Marc

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i don't know anything about US Mobile... recently I've only tried "Ting", "Consumer Cellular", and "Red Pocket Mobile", as I've focused on no-contract providers that have good coverage in the western part of the USA (where companies like Sprint have terrible coverage), and also have low prices for low usage.

Marc