Re:WOW, I am really confused.

Since I'm replying to Barb's message of 1/22, perhaps by now someone has
explained things to her well. But just in case...

The various tabs for ssale to stick on cellphones don't change the harmful
frequencies the phones create. If they did, the phones would not function.
Supposedly, they change the way your body responds to the radiation.
I would not bet my health on it.

I just got a msg. yesterday frlm a woman who had two kinds of these tabs
onher phone and it was still causing her to experieince painin her head. She
switched to a regular landline and no more pain.

It is likely that there will be many lawsuits in the future, as people who
used these tabs and gizmos develop cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. It's ironic
that people put these things on their cell and cordless phones and then use
them freely, believing they are now protected.

The Stetzer filters, on the other hand, do exactly what they are designed
to do. They remove "dirty electricty" frequencies of 4 to 100 KHz from the
circuits in your house.

However, you don't need to plug them in alll over the place. You need
enough in both the A line and B line of your home to bring the reading on the
Stetzerizer meter down to, ideally, 20. 30 or 40 is not too bad, but I
don't know of an ES person who gets symptoms at 20, even the most sensitive,

You are not filtering the space in your house. It doesn't matter what the
size of your house or apartment is, but how dirty the electricity is.
That's what you are filtering.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com









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> The various tabs for sale to stick on cellphones don't change the
> harmful frequencies the phones create. If they did, the phones would
> not function.

Well, these statements make some assumptions that not everyone here
agrees with. I think there are some people here who think the cellphone
can work just fine while the harmful effects can be diminished using a
variety of means (some conventional, some not). Personally, I don't use
any stickers/tabs, although some of the things I use are just about as
weird :-) , and they do eliminate symptoms such as headaches, nausea,
skin problems, etc.

> The Stetzer filters, on the other hand, do exactly what they are
> designed to do. They remove "dirty electricty" frequencies of 4 to
> 100 KHz from the circuits in your house.

And again, there are some disagreements about how useful these filters are,
considering that some of us are being fried by antennas outside of their
houses (which these filters don't do much about), or being fried by
frequencies emitted by appliances and electronics in their house (again,
this isn't a problem with the wires, but rather stuff that's bouncing
around in your living space), or even are being bothered by noise on the
power lines that the Stetzer filters weren't designed to remove.

Marc

 
In a message dated 22/02/2010 04:52:35 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]  
writes:

The various tabs for ssale to stick on cellphones don't change the harmful
 
frequencies the phones create. If they did, the phones would not function.  
Supposedly, they change the way your body responds to the radiation.
I would not bet my health on it.



PUK replies - have you checked out the EXRADIA BATTERY FOR CELL PHONES ?
 
Exradia Technology
• The Exradia technology is the only scientifically proven patented
solution to neutralize potentially harmful EMF emissions from electrical devices
at source. It is based on Noise Field Technology, which superimposes a low
frequency randomised magnetic field over the man-made regular
electromagnetic field emissions generated by electronic equipment. This added noise
field results in both ELF and RF electromagnetic emissions generated by
man-made devices appearing to living cells as irregular, mimicking the random low
level electromagnetic fields, which tend to occur in nature. Randomised
low-level electromagnetic fields do not cause biological changes to human
cells.


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Shivani,

Thank you so much for the information. I was afraid that a little silver stick on that we put on our phones would be to easy to take care of the problem. My biggest problem now is gong to find a good cell phone hoilster to protect while he is wearing it. My husbands business depends on his cell phone. I guess we got ourselves in a pickle now having a business that requiresone to have the phone on themselves all the time. SO this will be tricky to alliviate the the problem, or reduce the problem. I am trying to find a cell phone holister for him to place the cell phone in while not in use, then I saw a plastic type EMF protection, you can actually cut and place on the phone, the part that touches the head to stop the EMR's.

But I look at this from a bigger view, I can see so many people who are in grave danger and do not know it. It truly scares me. YUoung people who havelap tops stuck to their labs all the time, cell phones being used all the time, Towers being constructed everywhere for cell phones anor radio. T.V. in the homes, and this is only a drop in a barrel of potential health problems. Bees are dying is a symptom of things to come. This is VERY scary.

I have a Brother in law, where they put up a big tower next to his home, heis suffering from some thing the Dr's do not know what. He feel like his skin is crawling or sever Restless leg syndrom all over his body. He cannotsleep. I have told them about EMF's. I am hoping he can learn that is could be the problem. I really do not think people know what is hitting them. Then, there are companies, like you stated that they sell things that are not cheap, then they do not even work. I am looking into Earth Calm product, as people here have given them a good rating. I guess the fight will continue, I do not know if I will ever get protected completely, but I will try. The economy here is very poor,SO money is tight, so it does take a lot of research on my part, to try and find things that really help. But looks likeI already put my trust in a product that really does not work. That is another problem for many like my self, you depend on companies being honest with there products. It is difficult for me to understand all the informationout there. The cell phone stick ons are everywhere on line all saying theyPROTECT you. But I guess they really don't.

Thank you so much for your time.

Barb

>And again, there are some disagreements about how useful these filters are,
>considering that some of us are being fried by antennas outside of their
>houses (which these filters don't do much about), or being fried by
>frequencies emitted by appliances and electronics in their house (again,
>this isn't a problem with the wires, but rather stuff that's bouncing
>around in your living space), or even are being bothered by noise on the
>power lines that the Stetzer filters weren't designed to remove.
 
Yup exactly what I deal with. But I thought that the Stetzer filters did remove the noise. I'm confused as to what they really can do. Not too promising. Loni


--- On Sun, 2/21/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] tabs and Stetzer filters
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:16 PM


 



> The various tabs for sale to stick on cellphones don't change the
> harmful frequencies the phones create. If they did, the phones would
> not function.

Well, these statements make some assumptions that not everyone here
agrees with. I think there are some people here who think the cellphone
can work just fine while the harmful effects can be diminished using a
variety of means (some conventional, some not). Personally, I don't use
any stickers/tabs, although some of the things I use are just about as
weird :-) , and they do eliminate symptoms such as headaches, nausea,
skin problems, etc.

> The Stetzer filters, on the other hand, do exactly what they are
> designed to do. They remove "dirty electricty" frequencies of 4 to
> 100 KHz from the circuits in your house.

Marc








     

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> Yup exactly what I deal with. But I thought that the Stetzer filters did
> remove the noise.

They remove *some* noise (4 khz - 100 khz), but not all of it. Also there are
types of noise ("common mode" ?) that they don't do anything about. So they
might be helpful in some circumstances, and not helpful in others. Obviously
Shivani has found them helpful.

Marc

Oh Barb I feel for your Brother in Law. You have a home & the powers that be make it impossible for you to live in it. It is traggic.
 
I can't wait to move from my house but then where can one go to be safe from them placing these towers in your back yard?  It's very scary.
 
Loni

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, barbpom2000 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: barbpom2000 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Shivani thank you for the information
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:45 AM


 



Shivani,

Thank you so much for the information. I was afraid that a little silver stick on that we put on our phones would be to easy to take care of the problem. My biggest problem now is gong to find a good cell phone hoilster to protect while he is wearing it. My husbands business depends on his cell phone. I guess we got ourselves in a pickle now having a business that requiresone to have the phone on themselves all the time. SO this will be tricky to alliviate the the problem, or reduce the problem. I am trying to find a cell phone holister for him to place the cell phone in while not in use, then I saw a plastic type EMF protection, you can actually cut and place on the phone, the part that touches the head to stop the EMR's.

But I look at this from a bigger view, I can see so many people who are in grave danger and do not know it. It truly scares me. YUoung people who havelap tops stuck to their labs all the time, cell phones being used all the time, Towers being constructed everywhere for cell phones anor radio. T.V. in the homes, and this is only a drop in a barrel of potential health problems. Bees are dying is a symptom of things to come. This is VERY scary.

I have a Brother in law, where they put up a big tower next to his home, heis suffering from some thing the Dr's do not know what. He feel like his skin is crawling or sever Restless leg syndrom all over his body. He cannot sleep. I have told them about EMF's. I am hoping he can learn that is couldbe the problem. I really do not think people know what is hitting them. Then, there are companies, like you stated that they sell things that are notcheap, then they do not even work. I am looking into Earth Calm product, as people here have given them a good rating. I guess the fight will continue, I do not know if I will ever get protected completely, but I will try. The economy here is very poor,SO money is tight, so it does take a lot of research on my part, to try and find things that really help. But looks like I already put my trust in a product that really does not work. That is another problem for many like my self, you depend on companies being
honest with there products. It is difficult for me to understand all the information out there. The cell phone stick ons are everywhere on line all saying they PROTECT you. But I guess they really don't.

Thank you so much for your time.

Barb









     

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Hi again, Barb,
 
Re your brother-in-law.....  His symptoms are consistent with some badmold exposures.  I had these symptoms when I was exposed to toxic mold in 2005/2006.  It is hard to find a doctor who will know how to treat it.  You could suggest Dr. Rae in Dallas:
 
http://www.ehcd.com/
 
I did not see him in person, but I talked to him and his staff by phone.    Here is another site which Snoshoe shared with us awhile back on mold exposures.  I had the "somatic" type symptoms and felt like bugs were crawling on me and the feeling was much worse at night with the lights out.  I actually slept only with the lights onat the time--my best sleep was while laying in front of a sunny window.  I had also a very weird symptom of something moving about in my head, which gave the feeling it was looking out of my eyesockets.  Here is that site:
 
http://www.pati-air.com/News/TrappedAir/stachybotrys.html
 
Another informative site (tho I know nothing about this doctor):

http://www.moldtoxindoc.com/mold-toxin-and-illness/symptoms.php
 
My best to you Bil,
Diane

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Shivani thank you for the information
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 12:22 PM


 



Oh Barb I feel for your Brother in Law. You have a home & the powers that be make it impossible for you to live in it. It is traggic.
 
I can't wait to move from my house but then where can one go to be safe from them placing these towers in your back yard?  It's very scary.
 
Loni

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, barbpom2000 <barbpom2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: barbpom2000 <barbpom2000@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [eSens] Shivani thank you for the information
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:45 AM

 

Shivani,

Thank you so much for the information. I was afraid that a little silver stick on that we put on our phones would be to easy to take care of the problem. My biggest problem now is gong to find a good cell phone hoilster to protect while he is wearing it. My husbands business depends on his cell phone. I guess we got ourselves in a pickle now having a business that requiresone to have the phone on themselves all the time. SO this will be tricky to alliviate the the problem, or reduce the problem. I am trying to find a cell phone holister for him to place the cell phone in while not in use, then I saw a plastic type EMF protection, you can actually cut and place on the phone, the part that touches the head to stop the EMR's.

But I look at this from a bigger view, I can see so many people who are in grave danger and do not know it. It truly scares me. YUoung people who havelap tops stuck to their labs all the time, cell phones being used all the time, Towers being constructed everywhere for cell phones anor radio. T.V. in the homes, and this is only a drop in a barrel of potential health problems. Bees are dying is a symptom of things to come. This is VERY scary.

I have a Brother in law, where they put up a big tower next to his home, heis suffering from some thing the Dr's do not know what. He feel like his skin is crawling or sever Restless leg syndrom all over his body. He cannot sleep. I have told them about EMF's. I am hoping he can learn that is couldbe the problem. I really do not think people know what is hitting them. Then, there are companies, like you stated that they sell things that are notcheap, then they do not even work. I am looking into Earth Calm product, as people here have given them a good rating. I guess the fight will continue, I do not know if I will ever get protected completely, but I will try. The economy here is very poor,SO money is tight, so it does take a lot of research on my part, to try and find things that really help. But looks like I already put my trust in a product that really does not work. That is another problem for many like my self, you depend on companies being
honest with there products. It is difficult for me to understand all the information out there. The cell phone stick ons are everywhere on line all saying they PROTECT you. But I guess they really don't.

Thank you so much for your time.

Barb

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In a message dated 22/02/2010 21:05:03 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I have a Brother in law, where they put up a big tower next to his home,
he is suffering from some thing the Dr's do not know what. He feel like his
skin is crawling or sever Restless leg syndrom all over his body. He cannot
sleep. I have told them about EMF's. I am hoping he can learn that is
could be the problem. I really do not think


PUK replies - One thing I would reccomend would be calorie restriction or
evan fasting, I seem to be better sometimes if I have not fuelled myself up
to much with all sort s of food stuffs, I suppose I should go and get an
allergy test for food stuffs as it makes a lot of sense that if you are
eating stuff that increases alleric reactions and inflamation in the body this
will only increase the ES effects.


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