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Re:Stetzer Meter - feeling worse

PickPinkFlowers
Paul mentioned that some people feel worse after installing the
Stetzer filters. Can you provide more info about specific instances in
which that has happened? What symptoms worsened? What might
the reason for that be? Given how ill I am, I need to know what to
watch out for. Also spending so much money to go one step
forward and then perhaps five back is not appealing. Of course,
there is no way to know whether they will help except try them.

And if you buy two meters and get different readings on them in the
same outlet at the same time, then aren't they meaningless? That is,
if they give erroneous or unreliable or inconsistent readings before the
filters are installed, wouldn't they do the same afterwards? Josie




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Re: Re:Stetzer Meter - feeling worse

Marc Martin
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PickPinkFlowers wrote:
> Paul mentioned that some people feel worse after installing the
> Stetzer filters. Can you provide more info about specific instances in
> which that has happened? What symptoms worsened? What might
> the reason for that be?

I felt worse when installing a Stetzer filter. This was years ago,
but I think the symptom was a sharp pain in my head. I've tried
other noise suppressing devices and had various results. Some
have had the same bad effect as the Stetzer filter, while others
didn't. These sorts of devices are popular for hi-fi enthusiasts,
and I've tried some different brands (Blue Circle, Furman, Quantum
Products, PS Audio). The only ones which didn't cause an adverse
reaction was the PS Audio Noise Harvester, HOWEVER, this had
very little effect on the Stetzer readings (dropped them by
about 10), and a Furman power strip (which lowered the readings
significanlty by keeping the noise from appliances from going back
onto the AC line). According to Furman's literature, some of
cheaper noise filtering technologies may reduce the noise in
one set of frequencies, while significantly boosting the
noise on other sets of frequencies. The Stetzer filters
are supposed to work "best" from 4khz - 100khz, which makes
me wonder what they are doing outside of that range...

I've had excellent results from items from QuantumProducts.com, however,
these don't have ANY effect on the Stetzer meter, as they work
under a different principle (these strengthen the integrity
of the signal, which is supposed to make them less harmful
to people).

Marc

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Re: Re:Stetzer Meter - feeling worse

Paul Coffman
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The numbers are meaningless, for me I actually felt worse with them, they
don't actually remove the energy, they just transform it from high-freq RF
to a magnetic field, according to an environmental specialist I was working
with. So if you're more sensitive to magnetic fields it will hurt you, if
you are more sensitve to RF it will help you, and if you are the same you
will feel no different. However Dave Stetzer is a really great guy and he
will give you money back minus 20% restock fee if it doesn't help you - he
live just up the road from me.

On 5/23/07, PickPinkFlowers <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Paul mentioned that some people feel worse after installing the
> Stetzer filters. Can you provide more info about specific instances in
> which that has happened? What symptoms worsened? What might
> the reason for that be? Given how ill I am, I need to know what to
> watch out for. Also spending so much money to go one step
> forward and then perhaps five back is not appealing. Of course,
> there is no way to know whether they will help except try them.
>
> And if you buy two meters and get different readings on them in the
> same outlet at the same time, then aren't they meaningless? That is,
> if they give erroneous or unreliable or inconsistent readings before the
> filters are installed, wouldn't they do the same afterwards? Josie
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo!
> FareChase.
>
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>
>  
>



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Re: Re:Stetzer Meter - feeling worse

Marc Martin
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> The numbers are meaningless, for me I actually felt worse with them, they
> don't actually remove the energy, they just transform it from high-freq
> RF to a magnetic field

Never heard that before... they are supposed to simply transfer the
high frequencies from the hot wire to the neutral wire. I think
it'd be better if they actually REMOVED the noise instead of
transfering, like converting it to heat. The PS Audio "Noise
Harvesters" converts noise to light, however I don't think
that these remove enough noise to make much of a difference.
Perhaps if they were 10x stronger or 10x less expensive
then it might be recommended...

Marc

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noise filters

Marc Martin
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In reply to this post by Paul Coffman
By the way, while we're on the subject of noise filters, I
recentry tried a Blue Circle BC68MkIII:

http://www.bluecircle.com/index.php?menu_id=1755&page_id=1716&section=main

One of these cuts the Stetzer meter readings in half (e.g., 500->250),
but
this still causes me some discomfort that I wouldn't normally feel.
Perhaps
this is something I could get used to, although I don't feel any
health benefits from it either. I asked the company about the frequency
range it covers, and I recall they responded that it reduced noise
up to 2 ghz.

Marc