Re: Re:WOW, I am really confused.

 
Hello Shivani,
 
this confusion is due to some fundamental misunderstanding caused through  
not knowing what really causes the health effect of electrosmog.
Using one of this tabs or stickers on your phone, you will find no change  
in the measurable waves, but with biological measuring, electroacupuncture,
EEG, blood under the microscope you will find that the harmful effect
disappears. To argue these things are ineffective, because the measurable waves
are unchanged without checking the biological effect is scientifically
wrong.
 
This seemingly strange finding leads to two conclusions. First, the  
measurable waves are not the cause of the health effect, yes they are not. They  
are there, unchanged and still the biological harmful effect disappears.
 
So secondly there must be some other waves inherent in the measurable waves
that do the harm. But what are these waves my measuring tool does not
measure? I found out, and I am not the only one, that these waves are the Tesla
waves or so called scalar waves. They follow very peculiar physical laws
and through this they can be addressed.
 
Now, if you put two different ones of these tabs on your phone, they can  
interfere with each other and cancel out the effect. Electrosensitive people  
often have a quite strong resonance to these scalar wave, stronger than the
tab or sticker, and then it does not help.
 
I hope, some day this widespread misunderstanding will disappear.
 
dietrich
 
 
 
n einer eMail vom 22.02.2010 05:52:35 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt  
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The various tabs for ssale to stick on cellphones don't change the harmful
 
frequencies the phones create. If they did, the phones would not function.  
Supposedly, they change the way your body responds to the radiation.
I would not bet my health on it.

I just got a msg. yesterday frlm a woman who had two kinds of these tabs
onher phone and it was still causing her to experieince painin her head.
She
switched to a regular landline and no more pain.

It is likely that there will be many lawsuits in the future, as people who
used these tabs and gizmos develop cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. It's ironic
that people put these things on their cell and cordless phones and then
use
them freely, believing they are now protected.





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I must second the opinion from Dietrich here.
He is quite right.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:WOW, I am really confused.



Hello Shivani,

this confusion is due to some fundamental misunderstanding caused through
not knowing what really causes the health effect of electrosmog.
Using one of this tabs or stickers on your phone, you will find no change
in the measurable waves, but with biological measuring, electroacupuncture,
EEG, blood under the microscope you will find that the harmful effect
disappears. To argue these things are ineffective, because the measurable
waves
are unchanged without checking the biological effect is scientifically
wrong.

This seemingly strange finding leads to two conclusions. First, the
measurable waves are not the cause of the health effect, yes they are not.
They
are there, unchanged and still the biological harmful effect disappears.

So secondly there must be some other waves inherent in the measurable waves
that do the harm. But what are these waves my measuring tool does not
measure? I found out, and I am not the only one, that these waves are the
Tesla
waves or so called scalar waves. They follow very peculiar physical laws
and through this they can be addressed.

Now, if you put two different ones of these tabs on your phone, they can
interfere with each other and cancel out the effect. Electrosensitive people
often have a quite strong resonance to these scalar wave, stronger than the
tab or sticker, and then it does not help.

I hope, some day this widespread misunderstanding will disappear.

dietrich



n einer eMail vom 22.02.2010 05:52:35 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt
[hidden email]:

The various tabs for ssale to stick on cellphones don't change the harmful

frequencies the phones create. If they did, the phones would not function.
Supposedly, they change the way your body responds to the radiation.
I would not bet my health on it.

I just got a msg. yesterday frlm a woman who had two kinds of these tabs
onher phone and it was still causing her to experieince painin her head.
She
switched to a regular landline and no more pain.

It is likely that there will be many lawsuits in the future, as people who
used these tabs and gizmos develop cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. It's ironic
that people put these things on their cell and cordless phones and then
use
them freely, believing they are now protected.





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Hi Detriech, How many Essers have you tested this on, ie Bio testing, full
blood tests, cell analysis, and what type of measuring equipment did you
use - Is there a written paper on this ? Another question, do tesla waves
and scaler waves emanate or are drawn to electrical apparatus and house
wiring, would your paper stickers work on a breaker box or compact fluorescent
bulb ? What is so special about mobile phones that they are linked to these
immeasurable waves ? i wonder sometimes wether the "worried well" are
beginning to talk theme selves into ES, so your stickers might be of great help
to them in particular to offer reassurance and prophylactic effects ? My
first advice to anyone who feels that they are showing signs of ES is to
take a good hard long look at the situation they are in and if at all possible
turn there back on this and walk away as fast as possible, for some as
with so many conditions the phychological tale can begin to wag the dog and
before you know it its difficult to talk yourself out of it for a myriad of
reasons !


Puk


In a message dated 02/04/2010 09:56:41 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

this confusion is due to some fundamental misunderstanding caused through
not knowing what really causes the health effect of electrosmog.
Using one of this tabs or stickers on your phone, you will find no change
in the measurable waves, but with biological measuring, electroacupuncture,
EEG, blood under the microscope you will find that the harmful effect
disappears. To argue these things are ineffective, because the measurable
waves
are unchanged without checking the biological effect is scientifically
wrong.




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Hello PUK,

see:
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina164b.html

and:
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Rapporten/RAUM&ZEIT%20engl%20Moulin%20Endfassung.pdf

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:WOW, I am really confused.

> Hi Detriech, How many Essers have you tested this on, ie Bio testing,
> full blood tests, cell analysis, and what type of measuring equipment
> did you use - Is there a written paper on this ?

Your questions were not directed at me, but I'll add my 2 cents
anyway... :-)

I will note that his solution, the BioProtect Card, just makes my
ES symptoms worse. I think if one's problem is primarily heavy
metal poisoning, some of these EMF protection devices will unsafely
mobilize the stored metals into your bloodstream and make you feel
bad. Which of course is what the EMF is doing as well.

> Another question, do
> tesla waves and scaler waves emanate or are drawn to electrical
> apparatus and house wiring, would your paper stickers work on a
> breaker box or compact fluorescent bulb ?

Some manufacturers suggest that you put their devices on the power
cord leading into the electronics, or on the breaker box for the
house. Tachyonized silica discs are one such device that recommends
this type of usage. I've found that my cats loose bladder control
when I put devices on the breaker box, so I don't do that. :-)

> What is so special about
> mobile phones that they are linked to these immeasurable waves ?

Digital square waves ("pulsed") modulated onto a very high-frequency carrier
wave. This is not so special anymore -- HDTV is broadcast this way, as is
HD Radio, digital satellite TV, digital cordless telephones, etc.

Marc

 
Hi Puk,
it makes me happy that at least a few people react to my clear cut
statements, that seem to question a lot of discussion going on in this forum. You
ask a whole lot of questions and I will try to make it short.
 
Most measurements I did through electroacupuncture, because it is fast and  
repeatable. Testing was done most on normal people including myself to find
out the basic facts about electrosmog. Normal people always show the same
clear reaction in electroacupuncture even when they do not feel anything.
Some ES people do react much stronger – up to three times stronger– than
so called normal people. In traditional science one asks for hundreds of
persons to be tested. I followed a different and faster way. After I had
discovered that these strange devices work I wanted to find out how they work.
For this you do not need many persons, but many variations of expermenting
and a lot of creativity and luck. Through the experience of 9 years with
thousands of people and further research my findings have proven to be
correct. And new findings are added from time to time that also confírm and
refine the earlier findings.
 
Since electroacupuncture scientifically is not accepted you may discard my  
whole findings, in spite of the fact that it works.
 
Full blood testing I knew usually does not show significant results and  
would have been quite expensive.
The microscopic blood count usually is only done to show how dangerous
mobile phones are, but seldom to prove how to prevent this danger. With my
product it has been done at least 3 times at different occations, always with
the same result. So You have still the freedom to doubt it since I did not
even 10 samples.
 
Yes there is a written paper of about 8 pages on this in an english  
translation which I can send to anyone interested.
 
Tesla waves always can be found where measurable electromagnetic waves are  
present, no matter what frequency. They emanate from any electrical
apparatus in action. Therefore electrosmog neutralizing devices can be used on the
braker box, fluorecent lights, computers, TV-sets and last not least  
mobile phones and stations. Wearing them on the body is easier but somewhat
less effective.
 
By the way, there exist also scalar waves without measurable  
electromagnetic waves, and not all scalar waves are harmful. One can use them even for
healing purposes. For instance, a electromagnetic wave of 7.8 Hz has a quite
strong positive effect on Your body. But this is off topic here.
 
As long as You do not know the real nature of electrosmog as scalar waves  
and the laws of physics behind these waves, the only way to protect youself
is to avoid electromagnetic waves and eventually shielding. That is right.
As you know this is makes life in our present civilisation very difficult.
So a more intellligent solution is required.
 
Some of the experiences of ES people can very well be understood through  
the special qualities of the scalar waves and the functioning of these
devices. Some, not all. For instance, the so called symptoms of detox thatappear
in some people while using electrosmog neutralizing devices but do not
happen in an electrosmog free environment I do not understand yet.
 
It is well known in science, if you get 10 questions answered, 20 ore more  
new questions will arise until you get to the question of the origin of the
whole creation.
 
dietrich
 




In einer eMail vom 02.04.2010 12:29:41 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt  
[hidden email]:

Hi Detriech, How many Essers have you tested this on, ie Bio testing, full
 
blood tests, cell analysis, and what type of measuring equipment did you  
use - Is there a written paper on this ? Another question, do tesla waves  
and scaler waves emanate or are drawn to electrical apparatus and house  
wiring, would your paper stickers work on a breaker box or compact  
fluorescent
bulb ? What is so special about mobile phones that they are linked to
these
immeasurable waves ? i wonder sometimes wether the "worried well" are
beginning to talk theme selves into ES, so your stickers might be of great
help
to them in particular to offer reassurance and prophylactic effects ? My
first advice to anyone who feels that they are showing signs of ES is to
take a good hard long look at the situation they are in and if at all
possible
turn there back on this and walk away as fast as possible, for some as
with so many conditions the phychological tale can begin to wag the dog
and
before you know it its difficult to talk yourself out of it for a myriad
of
reasons !


Puk




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