Re: New To Group//Looking to Connect

Welcome, Seper!

So what sorts of things have you tried to alleviate the symptoms?

I've gotten my ES "under control" using a combination of avoidance,
nutrition, supplements, and EMF protection devices. It's all
pretty complicated and has required years of trial & error, but
I do "okay" these days with a fairly high exposure to EMFs.

Marc

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:13:37 -0000, "soulpro44" <[hidden email]>
said:

> I'm curious to know exactly what supplements you take and which
> protection devices you use. I bought about 9 stetzer filters but
> haven't really felt much benefit. If I could save myself years of
> trial and error that would be the purpose of this group fulfilled.

Everyone has a different environment and has different sensitivities,
so what works for me won't necessarily work for you.

That said, I've had good sucess with antioxidants (I take Active H-
powder now, but there is a similar product called Megahydrate),
Essential Fatty Acids (evening primrose oil taken orally or
borage oil skin cream applied to the face helps with the "burning
face symptom", flax oil helps my allergies but not ES), minerals
(foods high in potassium and/or magnesium seem to work the best
for me, but I also take a supplement called "Cellfood"). Also,
the foods I eat now tend to be less cooked,
more organic, and are never microwaved -- I don't know how much
this actually helps with ES, though, although it does seem to
be "healthier". I've also taken a lot of probiotics (the
best were from Custom Probiotics) and digestive enzymes (currently
use Zypan from Standard Process). Plus a lot of "Green Food"
supplements, which these days are mostly "Superfood Bars"
from Odwalla, and Greenlife#10 from Sonne.

As for devices, the ones from Quantum Products have proven helpful for
me, as have Springlife Polarizers (I usually use some combination of
both). But there are other things which I've noted that has made
some difference, like Earthcalm resonators, Radar cards, Electromagnetic
Pollution Rectifiers, Aulterra Neutralizer stickers, etc. I've
also tried plenty of other devices over the years which appeared
to do little to nothing, or actually made me worse!

Also, distancing yourself more from your computer, computer monitor,
clock radio near the bed can help. If you have a CRT monitor, you
can also turn down the resolution and get benefit. And eliminating
any dimmer switches in the house, compact florescent lighting,
wireless phones and Internet can help.

Plus, the shoes I wear have static dissapative soles, so I no
longer get shocks.

Others have used a variety of shielding materials -- I've not
had much luck with these, so I just don't do this at all anymore.

I can provide more info/links for any of the above, or alternately
you can do Google searches on anything that looks interesting to you.

Marc

Hi Seper,

Welcome, and sympathies. The simplest (and cheapest) quick remedy we found
for my wife Sue's ES-related sleep disorder was simply to turn off the power
in the house at night at the mains. This reduced the problem considerably
and helped break the vicious circle. Of course it involves lifestyle
changes particularly with regard to frozen food.

Howevrer you will probably find there are things specific to you that add to
the sleep disturbance - you can search for these and try to solve them. In
Sue's case these included emissions from a special type of street light by
our house (which the council kindly replaced!) and the neighbours' cordless
phone coming through the shared wall (which we blocked off with metallic
netting).

Best wishes, Ian

_____

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soulpro44
Sent: 27 July 2006 00:14
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] New To Group//Looking to Connect



Hello all,

I'm new to the group and I just wanted to collaborate with everyone to
remedy the EHS that I have been dealing with for the past 7 months. I
live out in Los Angeles and was also wondering if there is anyone who
lives out here who is experiencing EHS or ES. My main symptom is sleep
disturbance--a tough battle to get even a miniscule amount of rest.
Aside from that I guess you could say that I have problems with cell
phones, computers, and TV. Lately however I have been able to watch
more television and not get any symptoms. This is a very difficult
thing to go through, you are all well aware of that. I truly
appreciate that there is a group like this and hope that I can get to
know some of you, and hopefully, through one another's support, we can
find some cure or treatment.

--Seper






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Oh... some more suggestions for Seper...

Remove unneccesary metals from your body. That is, rethink
carrying your keys in your pocket, or a large belt buckle.
Perhaps replace metal-framed eyeglasses with plastic, or
metal dental work with plastic composites. (all this
metal acts as an antenna)

A lot of people here have noticed a correlation with
heavy metal toxicity and ES, so doing something to
detox yourself from metals could be helpful. Although
during the detox, you may find your ES symptoms to be
worse (and some people here have theorized that ES
symptoms are in fact just heavy metal detox symptoms
due to metals being mobilized into your bloodstream
by EMF)

Also, at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,
as this reduces the odors coming from our cat's litter
box. I think this also helps my ES though, as these
also increase the amount of negative ions in the air.
(ion generators did not work as well for me -- I got
sharp winces of pain on my skin from them, and they
didn't help with any odors!).

Marc

> I have heard of the spring life polarizer, I just may give it a try.
> So I guess the main supplents are EFA's and antioxidants.

I've tried a *lot* of supplements over the years, but these days
it all seems to be down to antioxidants, EFAs, alkalanizing minerals,
and probiotics. And some of this stuff can be gotten more
effectively from foods instead of pills, if one is up for
a complete overhaul of their diet... :-)

> Have you
> heard of the correlation between ES and Heavy Metals (e.g. Mercury) I
> had problems with some fillings years ago which I took out and
> detoxed from. After some time I felt better. But now, or should I say
> 7 months ago, after partying a little to hard on New Years, this ES
> developed. When did yours start?

Yes, I've heard of this connection, and have tried many forms of
mercury chelation. I have very little tolerance for these types
of products however (meaning that I feel very bad even at
small dosages), which indicates to me that it is indeed a big
problem for me. However, since I also wish to be functional,
I don't take these sorts of products much anymore (although
maybe I should for their longterm benefit?). I'd suggest
"NDF" as a good thing to try for mercury detox, but there
are lots of others out there.

My problems started about 6 years ago, after I had been suffering
from a sinus infection and was put on repeated rounds of
antibiotics. The antibiotics finally cured my sinus infection,
but left me with all sorts of sensitivities that I didn't have
before (chemical & electrical)

> Has it improved at all?

As long as I stick to my supplements, food, and devices, I
manage a "normal" life, which is *much* better than before, when
I couldn't work because of the workplace environment, needed
a *lot* of sleep, and also couldn't watch TV, use the phone,
etc. without discomfort. These days, I don't think at all
about things that I used to dread.

> Have you heard of this condition being resolved in anyone?

Yes, people who have detoxed sucessfully claim to be cured.
I can't say that I have detoxed sucessfully, but it's not for
lack of trying!

> I have been looking into shielding my bedroom but it seems
> to be a difficult and costly thing to do. I know that you
> have not had much luck with this, but do
> you know how other people went about getting this done?

I'm sure they'll be happy to tell you! (if they are reading).
There are fabrics, paints, etc. -- lessemf.com has probably
everything you would need for this...

Marc

> But now, or should I say
> 7 months ago, after partying a little to hard on New Years, this ES
> developed.

So, you think "partying" was the trigger for your ES? I suppose
a common connection between your partying and my antibiotics use
may be liver damage. Perhaps it's the part of the liver which
detoxifies heavy metals and/or radiation that gets impaired?

Just theorizing...

Marc

In a message dated 7/27/2006 4:49:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,
hi Marc : ) I would be careful with anything that generates ozone. It is
bad for your lungs. Even though they say the air cleaners have less than the
limit approved by the FDA, the FDA begs to differ and says to be careful with
ozone generators. Stephanie


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I've found the best place to put my ozone generator is in the same little room where the furnace/ac air blower is at. When it first turns on you get a little smell of the ozone. But I hope it is keeping things sanitary and killing the bad stuff in the furnace and vents. I have to watch it though cause it has caused rust on other metal surfaces before and so I have to make sure it doesn't rust anything.
----- Original Message -----
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New To Group//Looking to Connect


In a message dated 7/27/2006 4:49:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,
hi Marc : ) I would be careful with anything that generates ozone. It is
bad for your lungs. Even though they say the air cleaners have less than the
limit approved by the FDA, the FDA begs to differ and says to be careful with
ozone generators. Stephanie

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> hi Marc : ) I would be careful with anything that generates ozone. It is
> bad for your lungs. Even though they say the air cleaners have less than the
> limit approved by the FDA, the FDA begs to differ and says to be careful with
> ozone generators.

I think that there is a lot of misinformation out there about ozone, and
the FDA isn't on the side of the truth... (but what else is new?)

Marc

Hi, Seper and Marc,
   
I was thinking liver detox pathway problems might be the cause for "partying-induced" symptoms, too, tho I thought of one other thing that could have caused it.... Celiacs can not drink liquors and beers with gliadin-derived alcohols (a protein fraction in wheat, rye, and barley). This definitely would cause the symptoms of ES plus, probably, a whole lot more (perhaps digestive symptoms, diarrhea, etc. These are classic symptoms, tho 2/3 of celiacs present with non-classic symptoms.) Celiac disease is a problem for approx 1 in 133 people in the US, and over half of the celiac population is still undxed. Celiac disease is a genetic disease, Seper. I can tell you how to be tested and what to look for, if you feel this is your problem and wish to persue this, in a private email.  
   
I wish you good health,
Diane aka Evie
 
 
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> But now, or should I say
> 7 months ago, after partying a little to hard on New Years, this ES
> developed.

So, you think "partying" was the trigger for your ES? I suppose
a common connection between your partying and my antibiotics use
may be liver damage. Perhaps it's the part of the liver which
detoxifies heavy metals and/or radiation that gets impaired?

Just theorizing...

Marc


         

 
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Agree re: ES symptoms aggrevated by metals, esplly for my head pain when wearing metal glasses &
   
thanks for info re: keys & wanting to remove silver fils, havent yet, wondering where to start,
   
reading re: ES
   
Don’t forget to look into dental issues. I have interviewed many patients, especially those with symptoms of electrical sensitivity, who have become well after removing their high voltage dental work. Bizarre, eh? I guesstoo much electricity next to the brain is not a good thing. It is easy to check one’s dental currents, and I suggest that all chronically ill patients consider removing their amalgam fillings, any crown with an underlying amalgam, and any crown or filling with an electric current greater than 1 microampere

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oh... some more suggestions for Seper...

Remove unneccesary metals from your body. That is, rethink
carrying your keys in your pocket, or a large belt buckle.
Perhaps replace metal-framed eyeglasses with plastic, or
metal dental work with plastic composites. (all this
metal acts as an antenna)

A lot of people here have noticed a correlation with
heavy metal toxicity and ES, so doing something to
detox yourself from metals could be helpful. Although
during the detox, you may find your ES symptoms to be
worse (and some people here have theorized that ES
symptoms are in fact just heavy metal detox symptoms
due to metals being mobilized into your bloodstream
by EMF)

Also, at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,
as this reduces the odors coming from our cat's litter
box. I think this also helps my ES though, as these
also increase the amount of negative ions in the air.
(ion generators did not work as well for me -- I got
sharp winces of pain on my skin from them, and they
didn't help with any odors!).

Marc


         

 
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