Re:My new life

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the info on the detox. I am also curious if you have done
anything differently in relation to whatever it was that brought on the
ES. For me mine was caused by overexposure to magnetic fields which I
now avoid, mostly. Did you use a cell phone and do you still? reduce
computer time? Any changes like that?

Sandi

Hi Sandi,
I had to reduce computer time and talk on speaker phone on my cell phone.

I got a lot of Biopro products.

I carried an energem on me all of the time and still do. Www.energems.com

The biopro pendant makes me feel horrible but it helps others???

I do use the biopro chip on my phones and cell phones and the energem takescare of my entire house.

Before I said that "I could eat a cell phone and it would not bother me"

I was just illustrating my point. I don't want to fall backwards by 'pushing the limit'. My symptoms have subsided and are still improving and I still avoid certain things.

I won't put on headphones or the "Bluetooth Ear Pieces for my Cellphone" Ilove them but don't want to push my luck.

I still drive in my car with my Energem attached.

I won't go to the Game room with 100 video games there........last time I went there I was on my back for 2 days. Why push my luck, I feel better........maybe I would be fine, I don't know. I probably would be fine but it'snot worth the experiment for me right now.

Paul




----- Original Message -----
From: Sandi Maurer
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:27 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re:My new life


Hi Paul,

Thanks for the info on the detox. I am also curious if you have done
anything differently in relation to whatever it was that brought on the
ES. For me mine was caused by overexposure to magnetic fields which I
now avoid, mostly. Did you use a cell phone and do you still? reduce
computer time? Any changes like that?

Sandi



   


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> I got a lot of Biopro products
> I carried an energem on me all of the time and still do. Www.energems.com

So, for clarification, do you use the BioPro and Energems because
they *theoretically* might be helpful, or have you found
through experience that they are *definitely* helpful? (e.g.,
do they increase your tolerance for computer use, etc.)

Marc

> I won't go to the Game room with 100 video games there........last time I
> went there I was on my back for 2 days. Why push my luck, I feel
> better........maybe I would be fine, I don't know. I probably would be
> fine but it's not worth the experiment for me right now.

Ahhh, I see with all these added clarifications that you are not really
"cured", but rather just doing a lot better than you were. I guess
by your standards, I was "cured" years ago (but by my standards, I
still have a ways to go)

Marc

Hey there,

Well, Put it this way, I have no more symptoms at this time. I don't wantthe symptoms either!!

Cured, better, permanent, not permanent, I just don't know.

My problem is that I never feel an immediate impact from the EMF. It's cuumulative. It takes a long time to run out(leave) and a while to build up.I can't immediately tell.  
All I can say is that I feel TONS better and don't feel my symptoms any longer.

I am on the computer at least 5 hours a day and I still feel great.

Does that make sense? I do want to clarify for you Marc.

Paul


----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:My new life


> I won't go to the Game room with 100 video games there........last timeI
> went there I was on my back for 2 days. Why push my luck, I feel
> better........maybe I would be fine, I don't know. I probably would be
> fine but it's not worth the experiment for me right now.

Ahhh, I see with all these added clarifications that you are not really
"cured", but rather just doing a lot better than you were. I guess
by your standards, I was "cured" years ago (but by my standards, I
still have a ways to go)

Marc


   

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Hmmmmmmm, good question.

Prior to my detox I did the Energem and Biopro and it didn't help me much at all.  

I was using the Biopro and the Energem as I did the detox.

 
I did the detox and I feel better. I just don't want to change anything that led or may have led to me getting better.

It's hell to be tired and in pain all of the time.

Just being careful!

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioPro / Energems


> I got a lot of Biopro products
> I carried an energem on me all of the time and still do. Www.energems.com

So, for clarification, do you use the BioPro and Energems because
they *theoretically* might be helpful, or have you found
through experience that they are *definitely* helpful? (e.g.,
do they increase your tolerance for computer use, etc.)

Marc



   

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> I am on the computer at least 5 hours a day and I still feel great.
>
> Does that make sense? I do want to clarify for you Marc.

Yes, that does make perfect sense to me, as I've certainly
experienced this myself!

I find that 5 hours a day on the computer is no problem for
me either (WITH devices). Over 10 hours a day may cause some
problems, but hey, who should be using a computer that
long anyway! :-)

Marc

In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:19:04 PM GMT Daylight Time,
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Well, Put it this way, I have no more symptoms at this time. I don't want
the symptoms either!!




I see in Pauls comments that he has really worked on his phychological
attitude to this, "the emotional stuff" thats got to be positive. In some strange
way ES and any other disorder, becomes your shadow and you get used to it
and perhaps rather like a person who is kidnapped and who somehow starts to
become fond of their kidnapper their becomes a sense of belonging to the
assosiation with it.
Divorcing yourself from this is part of the healing process I suppose.

Paul UK






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> I see in Pauls comments that he has really worked on his phychological
> attitude to this, "the emotional stuff" thats got to be positive.

In my own case, I know that my improvements mostly came after I
became convinced that I could (and would) recover from this.
I don't know if there is a cause and effect here -- but
certainly having a positive attitude can't hurt! :-)

Marc