Re: Marc - The Indigo Crisis

> Marc, I am reading that indigo crisis web site you posted. It is awfully peculiar that all these
> symptoms that I understand as radiation exposure, mine, from hydrogen fluoride, a
> polyaromahydrocarbon, are those of the Indigo's going through transition????????????

Yes, well you don't have to believe what's written on that site... I
merely pointed it out as possibly matching your symptoms. One would
think that one could tell whether are either poisoned or evolving, but
perhaps not? :-)

Marc

Hi,

I light up in prayer sometimes already and it is a worry haha, (won't i stand out??)

I find these type of sites helpful because they come to the same reccomedations, so it is a message from Earth Mother. So spirit knows better what to do (later you can find your scientific explanation, follow your intuition)

You can see what they recommend, you just go with your intuition. (i think you are crystalline)

Many crystal children are autistic and I would have ended up like that if i had not started praying.. (i think the autistic are indicated in the bible as the ones that God is gonna appoint to save us, they are crystalline, just have all this karma deffered on them from our forefathers, they are like this so their forefathers could live longer..We are all responsable for helping them, we need to unentagle, get out of the spiderweb. They are crystalline and get hurt by all the negativity of thest of us here, hey that is not unconditional love and it is killing us. Their weakness will also be their strength/those saints.. the more people vibrate harmonic energy the more collective consiousness is gonna shift up, those that are too fearful will have to saty behind, better surrender to Love)

Ask celia for one of them healings, archangel Michael is the one fighting for us// I found the timing uncanny as well when i read those messages...

Sorry if i am again in my right mind, i mean brain..

Love

Just be yourself, no matter what they say (ohoh I am an alien I'm a legal alien)

_40 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Marc, I am reading that indigo crisis web site you posted. It is awfully peculiar that all these
symptoms that I understand as radiation exposure, mine, from hydrogen fluoride, a
polyaromahydrocarbon, are those of the Indigo's going through transition????????????

The timelines noted in the article are consistent with my exposure. I jut find this peculiar. I
hear there are 13 rounds/levels to consciousness growth.

I don't seem to fit the levels they have for definition of this process. I seem to exceed them.
By the authors account (Celia Fenn).

Oh boy...and I thought I had problems before...LOLOL...what will I do if I turn into light? I am
kind of liking this new me....at least getting used to it anyway (this is my attempt at
humouring a difficult situation).

Regards,

Karen






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Hi,
   
I had some insights that could be useful for other people undergoing the same thing.. i do not mean to offend, i do feel it is important to share.. They will be ES/
   
We are God in lower consiousness. It is everything we have done to hurt that has been thrown on me, made manifest in my body. It is tribulation/trial i am in.
   
"They" try to throw slavery on me most, i have to clear it. It can be done through me because i have both master and slave in my lineage. Therefore i never take on the accustation either.. Clearing karma for slavery will take you out of menatal slavery, problem is most people do not even know thattheir mind is not free. There is so much stuff we did. Killing of the native americans, in God's name for crying out loud. His name will be cleared, my name will be cleared// The list goes on.. We need to ask for forgiveness. Then the enemy will have to sever.
   
Love
   
Think you're so clever,
but now you must sever you're breaking the girl.
   
a supermodel banging her housekeeper on the back of her neck till she bleeds (loses life energy) with a crystal encased cellular phone.. there is a message in the news
   
   
   
   
   
 
 
 

   
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Oh,
   
remember the first time i heard the word indigo..
used to dye them blue jeans// memory trigger, cold, hairs standing up, goosebumps//you know when you heard something like that.. you remember even if it was years ago.
   
the ones the housekeeper stole?? landlady/supermodel (??) saying Now willyou listen...\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
 
a supermodel banging her housekeeper on the back of her neck till she bleeds (loses life energy) with a crystal encased cellular phone.. there is a message in the news
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Love,
   
Let us not lynch the Landlord  
   
I intend to dissolve all gridwork in all energy flow in my auric field, chakra system, subtle bodies, gridwork and light body that is not of my energy signature. I return such energy to whomever it belongs to. God's will bedone. I retrieve my energy from others that i have given grid work unto, intentionally or unintentionally. I now reweave my own field with my own gridwork founded upon my own energy signature. I am the divine blueprint God holds for me, I am free flowing chi, I am Love, I am light, I am free//  
   
In Jesus name I Am
   
   
   
 

 

   
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Hey, Karen and Marc,
   
I read this site. Every one of the symptoms is a detox or lymphatic symptom! Ach, I cannot put credence into any of this personally, sorry.
   
Just my 2 cents,
Diane

tayloka_40 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Marc, I am reading that indigo crisis web site you posted. It is awfully peculiar that all these
symptoms that I understand as radiation exposure, mine, from hydrogen fluoride, a
polyaromahydrocarbon, are those of the Indigo's going through transition????????????

The timelines noted in the article are consistent with my exposure. I jut find this peculiar. I
hear there are 13 rounds/levels to consciousness growth.

I don't seem to fit the levels they have for definition of this process. I seem to exceed them.
By the authors account (Celia Fenn).

Oh boy...and I thought I had problems before...LOLOL...what will I do if I turn into light? I am
kind of liking this new me....at least getting used to it anyway (this is my attempt at
humouring a difficult situation).

Regards,

Karen





   
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> Hi Diane....I was pointing out in my post how similar the symtpoms of my
> condition of Fluorosis and recovery (reducing oxidation of fatty acids and fatty
> protiens) was to this belief system.

Presumably though, there is more to being an "indigo" than the detox
side effects?
I think I've read about psychic abilities, and perhaps there are more
things that
I don't think could be explained away by "detox symptoms".

Marc

There is more to the bible then environmental reporting, i use it as an ascension guide.. You see He actually came on a cloud (of fear) and has actually turned the tables and is actually chasing the money changers out of the temple// seeing is believing//
   
See killing that ego-mind is what is meant (8th ruler kundalini snake), this to all suicide bombers out there.. you got the right paragraph, you arekinda sorta totally misreading it//
   
Plus as within, so without and you gotta climb on up in consiousness, before .. you know..
   
just keep on being yourself, your true self//
   
Love
   
Please don't let Me be misunderstood
   
Christ will love you free
   
(Hope you understand i have to witness, do not feel so hot about the coming psychic attack (already started, sorry R it was me witnessing, i misunderstood) either.. light me a candle someone, since the sage has finished..Here we go again)

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This religious mumbo jumbo has nothing to do with eSens.

The Koran is a nice book also.
A bit difficult to read, but also has nothing to do with eSens.

This is not a religious group, but a group of sufferers from elektrosmog.

So please keep on topic.

Greetings,
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 21:34
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Marc - The Indigo Crisis

Hi, Marc and Karen,
   
I am not well informed when it comes to this "indigo" philosophy. I was only responding to the site Marc sent Karen about it.  
   
The only 2 things mentioned that were not detox symptoms at this site were:
1. Increased psychic ability and awareness of others' thoughts
2. The ability to recognise and communicate with angels, demons, etc.
   
In a yeast forum I belonged to (now defunct) we discussed, interestingly enough, how many of us heard voices in our heads. (Presumably these were the thoughts of others, tho these words were not sorted out by any of us that I know of. For instance, I hear the "voices", but they are a jumble of unmeaningful bits--a word or phrase here and there. I don't hear these all the time, but sometimes I hear them alot.) I am fairly good at reading what people are thinking sometimes. This is also something that waxes and wanes. Some at the yeast forum also found themselves to be fairly adept at reading people--recognising evil and good and intentions of people. People often ask my help in judging others, because I am usually good at this. Also, interestingly enough, there were several people at this forum who, like me, heard music--full musical scores, complete and new, unheard before. These "abilities" might just be side-effects of toxin overload. Let me explain... toxin
overload makes people more ES sensitive. It is highly possible that when people think, they emit a certain frequency. Having toxin overload might mean that one is more able to pick up the frequency of what another is thinking. This would explain both the "psychic ability" and the ability to judge character (recognise angels/demons/good/evil). The musical thing could be explainable by frequency as well.
   
What I am saying is, I do not hang my hat on my having actual "psychic abilities". Nor am I an "enlightened being" going thru a crisis of transformation. Nor am I a nut-case. I do believe I have a rationally explainable condition and that condition is toxin overload. And I am also experiencingdetox symptoms. (Which all the other characteristics attributed to the "indigos" were.)
   
What Karen says about this taking you to a higher level is true. To go thru this health situation does demand strength of character and emotional fortitude which we think we could not possibly possess until we encounter itpersonally. However, I do not think personally that this has anything to do with Christ Michael awaiting in his spaceship or us transitioning to a new consciousness level. I think it is plain ole toxin overload and detoxing. And I am sticking to my guns on this one! lol ;)
   
This is just my belief and you can believe what you will and that will beokay with me. But I don't like to see anyone suckered into a religion and that is what cynical me felt was going on with this site.
   
Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Diane....I was pointing out in my post how similar the symtpoms of my
> condition of Fluorosis and recovery (reducing oxidation of fatty acids and fatty
> protiens) was to this belief system.

Presumably though, there is more to being an "indigo" than the detox
side effects?
I think I've read about psychic abilities, and perhaps there are more
things that
I don't think could be explained away by "detox symptoms".

Marc


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Hi, Karen!

How are you doing, Sweetie? I've missed your posts of late. Glad to see you are back with us.

I knew your symptoms were similar to those mentioned at the site re "Indigos" (they are the same as my symptoms, too!) I just get a little annoyed with people who try to make a religion out of something that is already explainable in scientific terms. Sorry if I let my emotions hang out too noticeably. (I hope my comment was not offensive! And also that this one will not be.)

To clarify my feelings abit: It is all well and good for a society to try to piece together a belief system to cover events that they cannot understand. That I can appreciate. That is what has happened thru-out history. However, we are not in the Dark Ages and this is not really mysterious stuff you and I are dealing with. The only symptoms that were not detox symptoms at this site were psychic abilities and the ability to recognise angels and demons, etc and communicate with them. I wrote a post previously about my feelings on this so won't touch on that.

However, I will say that it is easy for some people who are psychologically astute to take something like detox symptomology and twist it to form a religious concept of some type. People who have these symptoms and who are not knowledgeable as to what they are dealing with hang on to every word when someone presents them with a nearly perfect picture of themselves. I find this site rather upsetting because it presents a health problem that is completely explainable and makes it sound as tho it is a mysterious condition that only particularly different and particularly enlightened people get. It plays on the ignorance of people by ironically telling them they are special. Forgive my cynicism here, but that strikes me as just a ploy to get followers. It is easy for one to disregard whether they have true psychic abilities and the ability to recognise and communicate with angels and demons, if they have all of the 25 other signs. That was what I was trying to convey.
I do get hot under the collar, tho, when it comes to religion because I have seen an especially high volume of bs floated by me in the guise of God given advise and philosophy. I do not wish to offend, tho, and I hope you will not feel I was putting you down. I was not. However, I was putting down this site. As for indigos... I suppose there could be such an being, but I hope they have more characteristics than just these to commend them.

You are getting richer by the post.
Another 2 cents to add to your collection,
Diane

tayloka_40 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Diane....I was pointing out in my post how similar the symtpoms of my condition of
Fluorosis and recovery (reducing oxidation of fatty acids and fatty protiens) was to this
belief system.

from a social psychology perspective, I find interesting how people use methods of beliefs
to explain difficult physical and emotional challenges. The belief in Idigo would appear to
be an extension belief from christianity, taken to the next level I suppose. And it
comprises healing techniques and belief structures from hinduism and budhism (chakras
and levels of consciousness, which appear in ancient yoga practices).

I study social archeology and find parallels throughout culture and time periods of when
individuals, common folk, used myth, sympbolism and folklore to explain natural
historical events. The growth of these myths and "tales" about beginnings and endings
occur to explain complex events such as earthquakes, solar eclipses, volcanoes, tsunamis,
hurricanes and weather patterns of all sorts. The bible is a good example of this
"environmental" reporting. But then, so are the Tales of Gligamesh.

Our language has developed now and our ability to communicate abstract ideas about
spatial concepts is considerably more advanced than historical records of similar events.
Yet, we can still see, as in Ingigo, how belief systems begin to emerge as "earthly" events
present themselves.

It is just our desire, as humans, to explain what seems unexplainable.

Take care....and I collect "two cents" by the way...those thoughts are always appreciated.

Karen

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OK, since this is coming up quite a lot at the moment, here's my two
penn'orth (you can tell which side of the Atlantic I come from!). Sue and I
are in fact Christians, but of a more "conventional" ilk :-) We have found
our faith has generally been a help to us in this struggle, sometimes in
remarkable ways. However, everyone has their own experiences, philosophy
and coping strategies, and discussing personal beliefs in a forum like this
can stir up unhelpful controversy, so we've avoided it. (The old pub taboo;
never talk about religion or politics!) To be honest, we don't really
identify personally with Perla's "super-mystical" approach, and we wouldn't
want people to think that the only choice is between that and a completely
non-spiritual route.

We're all free to share whatever we find helpful, in the hope that some
others will too. The worry is if that the proportion of "mystical" or
"off-topic" posts gets too high, it will be offputting for new people
trying to work out if this forum can give them practical help with their ES
symptoms. If they are on a slow modem or their inboxes get too clogged,
they might abandon the group altogether, which would be a great shame when
so much really valuable information is shared here.

Incidentally, Sue hasn't found that ES has given her "voices" or other
effects. The brain fog certainly affects her perceptions, but that predates
her ES (and is getting better) - the worst problem was a period when she was
getting uncontrollable negative thoughts, but that was definitely related to
side-effects of detox and a particular drug treatment.

Ian

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Sent: 20 May 2006 06:26
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Marc - The Indigo Crisis


Hi, Marc and Karen,

I am not well informed when it comes to this "indigo" philosophy. I was
only responding to the site Marc sent Karen about it.

The only 2 things mentioned that were not detox symptoms at this site
were:
1. Increased psychic ability and awareness of others' thoughts
2. The ability to recognise and communicate with angels, demons, etc.

In a yeast forum I belonged to (now defunct) we discussed, interestingly
enough, how many of us heard voices in our heads. (Presumably these were
the thoughts of others, tho these words were not sorted out by any of us
that I know of. For instance, I hear the "voices", but they are a jumble of
unmeaningful bits--a word or phrase here and there. I don't hear these all
the time, but sometimes I hear them alot.) I am fairly good at reading what
people are thinking sometimes. This is also something that waxes and wanes.
Some at the yeast forum also found themselves to be fairly adept at reading
people--recognising evil and good and intentions of people. People often
ask my help in judging others, because I am usually good at this. Also,
interestingly enough, there were several people at this forum who, like me,
heard music--full musical scores, complete and new, unheard before. These
"abilities" might just be side-effects of toxin overload. Let me explain...
toxin
overload makes people more ES sensitive. It is highly possible that when
people think, they emit a certain frequency. Having toxin overload might
mean that one is more able to pick up the frequency of what another is
thinking. This would explain both the "psychic ability" and the ability to
judge character (recognise angels/demons/good/evil). The musical thing
could be explainable by frequency as well.

What I am saying is, I do not hang my hat on my having actual "psychic
abilities". Nor am I an "enlightened being" going thru a crisis of
transformation. Nor am I a nut-case. I do believe I have a rationally
explainable condition and that condition is toxin overload. And I am also
experiencing detox symptoms. (Which all the other characteristics
attributed to the "indigos" were.)

What Karen says about this taking you to a higher level is true. To go
thru this health situation does demand strength of character and emotional
fortitude which we think we could not possibly possess until we encounter it
personally. However, I do not think personally that this has anything to do
with Christ Michael awaiting in his spaceship or us transitioning to a new
consciousness level. I think it is plain ole toxin overload and detoxing.
And I am sticking to my guns on this one! lol ;)

This is just my belief and you can believe what you will and that will be
okay with me. But I don't like to see anyone suckered into a religion and
that is what cynical me felt was going on with this site.

Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Diane....I was pointing out in my post how similar the symtpoms of my
> condition of Fluorosis and recovery (reducing oxidation of fatty acids and
fatty
> protiens) was to this belief system.

Presumably though, there is more to being an "indigo" than the detox
side effects?
I think I've read about psychic abilities, and perhaps there are more
things that
I don't think could be explained away by "detox symptoms".

Marc


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Hi,
   
Pearl here.. In no way i plan to cause divide// Or clog up inboxes//Is there a way to make a rethorical post??
   
The choice is between Love and fear.. This is my believe, and the truth is there is only Love. I think the road to self-realisation is the stepping up the ladder of the 7 chakra's, when you get the full rainbow follows kundalini (coming from the base), which is worked out by the Spirit (which enters at the heart and better present before kundalini awakens, even though you could first realise like the and then go back for Her), after the cleansing process, which is physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual.... thenfollows self realisation.. Making your true self the ruler. This is a process of evolution. So in that sense not special. (Maslow's theory of the hierarchy of needs and a lot more)
   
Through the ages people have tried to accomplish this and older societiesare not necesarrily inferior..
   
Upon kundalini i was super ES, know i do not feel them cellphones anymore. And yeah this is because i detoxed on all levels.
   
Cleaning the Heart has been my approach and left me free of ES symptoms/ I put Love first.. Some year ago someone gave me the advise that Love will get me out of this and i should practise will surrender.. Had no idea what was meant then// Now i fully understand.. Conquering fear is not all that easy, and shrinks and the the world try and make you function with it, i tryto move on passed it...
   
Conversion (change) is a process in the body and not something someone istrying to do to you, in my opinion.. i also do not feel the indigo site promotes religion in the way someone referred to it here.. Celia's free healing you can opt for or opt out of.. (great balls of fire/golden globes, i like)
   
No rules
No fear
   
Love,
   
Ellen
   
   
I Am free of ES symptoms..
   
   
PS As indigo's:
   
don't you step on My blue suede (swayed) shoes
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Hi, Perla, Marc, and All,

Perla, I hope I did not offend you with my views, but if I did, I certainly apologize! I agree with everything you said in this, Perla, pretty much. And I personally do not see your spiritual posts as a problem, tho I can understand and agree with Ian's points, too. I don't see spirituality, in itself, as a problem either, but I am concerned with "labelling" (such as one being labelled an "indigo"). For instance, if one were diabetic, I wouldn't want a spiritual person to say that diabetes was due to a particular spiritual problem and this was in actuality what underlied having diabetes. This is what I am trying to communicate here. That is not to say that I do not feel that problems with spirituality can be a factor in one's being ill. That is certainly the case.

This might be a personal issue with me due to my past and I am over-reacting. In my past, I was ill pretty much from infancy. There were a significant number of people from my past in churches that I attended who liked to "dx" me. They would tell me I just needed to believe and I would be healed (intimating that I had a faith problem), or that I had some mentionable or unmentionable curse or problem in my past or in my parents' pasts that led to my being ill. This was total bunk. I believed then and believe now that God has the power to heal and that my will is in no way significant enough to cause Him pause if He chooses to do so. The power of Heaven and Earth combined cannot stop the will of God. The same goes with curses, etc.

But when you label a person, that in itself is harmful spiritually, and could be also physically if that person then went on to deduce that they had no responsibility in working out their health problem and keeping to a health program. I could see where a belief in being an "indigo" could lead one to ideas of grandeur, as tho they were especially singled out to participate in a grand cosmic scheme of some sort. Don't we all wish we could find answers to our having ES that would be so self gratifying! Just so we don't add delusional to our list of symptoms, as well. ;)

Marc, I don't wish to prolong the spiritual debate, but in discussing this once it has come up, how do we deal with these subjects in the future? When I voiced my original concern about the indigo site, should I have done so privately? I am a little confused about this. Perla's rhetorical posts sounds good! Could we somehow divide the posts? Would a certain symbol in the subject line work or would this also clog mailboxes?

And lastly, Ian... I was not implying that because some with yeast and bacterial infections have said they can hear voices, that this is a universal symptom of bacterial and yeast infections. I imagine it is somewhat rare, tho it appeared that about a forth of those of us at the forum, at the time, mentioned we had experienced it. In my case, these "voices" have very little bearing on my life, other than to be an annoyance once in awhile. (Much like too much electrosmog--just noisey interference). It is not like they are trying to tell me anything or make any sort of sense; they are just there, sort of like having an intercom on and overhearing bits and pieces of a low conversation. (When it is bad tho, sometimes it is like listening in on a convention.) There were also a number of people at the yeast forum who mentioned the uncontrollable depressive thoughts, btw.

Best wishes to All,
Diane

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Hi,

Pearl here.. In no way i plan to cause divide// Or clog up inboxes//Is there a way to make a rethorical post??

The choice is between Love and fear.. This is my believe, and the truth is there is only Love. I think the road to self-realisation is the stepping up the ladder of the 7 chakra's, when you get the full rainbow follows kundalini (coming from the base), which is worked out by the Spirit (which enters at the heart and better present before kundalini awakens, even though you could first realise like the and then go back for Her), after the cleansing process, which is physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual.... then follows self realisation.. Making your true self the ruler. This is a process of evolution. So in that sense not special. (Maslow's theory of the hierarchy of needs and a lot more)

Through the ages people have tried to accomplish this and older societies are not necesarrily inferior..

Upon kundalini i was super ES, know i do not feel them cellphones anymore. And yeah this is because i detoxed on all levels.

Cleaning the Heart has been my approach and left me free of ES symptoms/ I put Love first.. Some year ago someone gave me the advise that Love will get me out of this and i should practise will surrender.. Had no idea what was meant then// Now i fully understand.. Conquering fear is not all that easy, and shrinks and the the world try and make you function with it, i try to move on passed it...

Conversion (change) is a process in the body and not something someone is trying to do to you, in my opinion.. i also do not feel the indigo site promotes religion in the way someone referred to it here.. Celia's free healing you can opt for or opt out of.. (great balls of fire/golden globes, i like)

No rules
No fear

Love,

Ellen


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> Marc, I don't wish to prolong the spiritual debate, but in discussing
> this once it has come up, how do we deal with these subjects in the
> future? When I voiced my original concern about the indigo site,
> should I have done so privately? I am a little confused about this.
> Perla's rhetorical posts sounds good! Could we somehow divide the
> posts? Would a certain symbol in the subject line work or would this
> also clog mailboxes?

Well, I don't want to encourage people to go too far off-topic, so
I wouldn't encourage marking the subject line with anything to
indicate off-topic posts. Certainly we need to be able to explore the
"perimeters" of electrical sensitivity, and all the of the various
conditions that describe ES as one of it's symptoms. But the main
emphasis of this group is really what can be done to *overcome* the
ES symptoms, no matter how you got it.

But I think it was okay to post your message about the similarities
between Indigo characteristics and detox symptoms.

But again, people who repeatedly post off-topic messages will be
moderated
and their off-topic posts will be deleted or edited by me. I'd say
that Ellen is in the most danger of this happening to -- especially
when she's had too much to drink... :-)

Marc

Hi,

Just rubbed mango all over, smooth (and in the spa up the road it costs you 50 $, i have their menu, copy cat)

Have to set something straight.. I think someone misinterpreted a quote, i confused someone.. Was not alluding to spaceship saviour, i think the song refers to the interdimensional out of space me/true self (and that one is by B52's ohoh maybe not sing that whole song, wondering what Marc is trying to do with his login, but that is just my suspicious mind:0) lucky you caught me sober pall, oh my neighbour is trying to tempt me with happy hour, better put me under surveillance for the night//)..

blue and white light showers are a nice healing meditation.. scan body, loosen where it is tense//

Kind regards,

Ellen




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Hi, Ellen and Karen,

No, Ellen, you did not confuse me. The spaceship saviour was mentioned in the site that Marc sent on "Indigos". That is why I have connected indigos with religion. It had nothing at all to do with anything you said.

Also, Karen, New Agers are a religion of their own. Just because one does not believe in God or believes in themselves instead of God does not mean they lack religion. Their religion is just one in which God is not a part. They can still have spiritual beliefs--this qualifies as their religion. (Not that all New Agers do not believe in God. It was my understanding that this spaceship saviour was a Christ figure, tho I suppose I could have misunderstood.)

Ellen, I love your posts. I get a chuckle out of every one and I need all the chuckles I can get! lol Go have a drink with your neighbor and enjoy yourself. Marc will sort it all out if you go overboard. ;)

Hugs,
Diane

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Hi,

Just rubbed mango all over, smooth (and in the spa up the road it costs you 50 $, i have their menu, copy cat)

Have to set something straight.. I think someone misinterpreted a quote, i confused someone.. Was not alluding to spaceship saviour, i think the song refers to the interdimensional out of space me/true self (and that one is by B52's ohoh maybe not sing that whole song, wondering what Marc is trying to do with his login, but that is just my suspicious mind:0) lucky you caught me sober pall, oh my neighbour is trying to tempt me with happy hour, better put me under surveillance for the night//)..

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Hi all,

A while ago, I reported that the company I work for
had issued its employees new identification badges,
and I had was having a bad reaction to the new badges.
The only change to the badge was the addition of a
"smart chip".

Well, it's been several months now, and I still have
a bad reaction to this badge, and have *finally*
started asking questions of our badge department.
It turns out that these "smart chips" contains both
metal and epoxy. Some people here know that metal
and epoxy are the ingredients of "orgone". In the
past, I have tried wearing orgone pendants for EMF
protection, but had a bad reaction to them. And
now that I think of it, I had pretty much the
same reaction to those pendants as these badges!

So I guess my company's new badges are orgone
generators!

Marc

Marc,
Is it a passive resonator will a coil around a chip? I bet that all the
radiation at your work environment is resonating with it and it is
sending out a signal. I bet you can feel that in addition to the orgone
and chemicals.
Andrew
On May 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

I agree with Ian and Charles, this is an eSens site, and religion has little
to do with it, although truth will be evident for all soon. Could we please
get back to topic? Peg


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Hi Marc,

That's too bad. I wonder if you could tell them you are allergic to
the resins or something in it, and it's making you ill? Workplaces
are suppose to accomadate these kind of things wherever possible.

I do wonder if it's the chemicals in the epoxy, or resins they used.
It's nasty stuff. The thought I had, I don't know if it's one you
have to wear, or just show, but could you cover the back with a piece
of foil, so it might reflect at least some of the energy away from
you?

And just recalled, there is "good and bad" or "dead" orgone, that is
is detrimental. :s

~ Snoshoe


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