Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of people on cell phone around me too... and no apparent "symptoms." I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it continues to be gone! Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins has made all the difference in the world to my health! If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... you can expect your ES to continue! Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have tried hundreds of thousands of products and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any difference in health challenges! Jan Jenson www.wellthychoices.net |
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> but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have tried
> hundreds of thousands of products Hundreds of thousands of products? That would be 7 products per day over the course of 40 years! :-) (I know that is seems like I've tried thousands of products in the past 10 years, but most likely it is really in the low hundreds) Marc |
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Could you please tell us what exactly did you do after taking amalgams out?Which genetic test did you take etc?
Thanks Joni --- On Thu, 12/31/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 12:05 PM Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of people on cell phone around me too... and no apparent "symptoms." I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it continues to be gone! Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins has made all the difference in the world to my health! If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... you can expect your ES to continue! Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have tried hundreds of thousands of products and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any difference in health challenges! Jan Jenson www.wellthychoices. net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Haha, that was an exageration. I'm sure it wasn't meant literally. Loni
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:18 PM > but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have tried > hundreds of thousands of products Hundreds of thousands of products? That would be 7 products per day over the course of 40 years! :-) (I know that is seems like I've tried thousands of products in the past 10 years, but most likely it is really in the low hundreds) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I think ES can be caused by a number of things. I had my amalgams out and
detoxed from mercury and it did help me feel less jittery. However, I still have severe ES. Have been tested for mercury load and it did come down a lot, so I don't think that's the main thing still causing the ES. For me, it's brain trauma caused by a pesticide poisoning years ago. Just my 2 cents! Taliesen On 12/31/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of > people on cell phone around me too... > and no apparent "symptoms." > I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it > continues to be gone! > > Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy > metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins > has made all the difference in the world to my health! > If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... > you can expect your ES to continue! > Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have tried > hundreds of thousands of products > and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any > difference in health challenges! > > Jan Jenson > www.wellthychoices.net > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 02/01/2010 00:15:22 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I think ES can be caused by a number of things. I had my amalgams out and detoxed from mercury and it did help me feel less jittery. However, I still have severe ES. Have been tested for mercury load and it did come down a lot, so I don't think that's the main thing still causing the ES. For me, it's brain trauma caused by a pesticide poisoning years ago. Just my 2 cents! Taliesen PUK replies - Perhaps another way of looking at it is that our ES ravaged bodies are acting in a protective manner rather like our sense of smell, etc...and that the prime solution is to move away, run from the toxic substance in our case esmog - emr, perhaps we have a genetic predisposition for this (and thats another fasinating story) trouble is that we are in an age where emr - wireless technologies inparticular are and have increased exponetionally to overload levels so our protective mechanism is somewhat futile and troublesome as there are few places to run to sanctuary. So we must look at ways of adaprting our bodies by treatments as they emerge kind of tuning down the sports car cos the roads arent built for it ! We seem to forget that there is a growing body of evidence that emr is indeed injurous to our health with the uncontrolabe and un measured levels that we currently are exposed to. I certainly think that to get a grip of ES you have to get a firm grip on the phychological damage that will accompany the condition, if this goes unchecked then you have double trouble. But that said we have a job to do it seems and we can all do our little bit, evan if its just to drop a seed/word of warning into our freinds and families ears. As for and ES cure, (how subjective is the word and state of Cure) well I am not sure about that, cures for many conditions follow the waft of snake oil around for many many years and still its always that bit further on the horizon, prophalactics seem to offer temporary hope for many such as the many gizmos on offer but beware of the crash that can occur later by vesting to much faith in these, they of course have thier place. Altering our bodies may be the only way to cope, in other word supressing the symptoms that are perhaps a good natural alarm bell by medication, there is no pathogen to kill here just the external forces in the world - perhaps evolution is at work here. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You don't "overdo" your exposure yet your using a
wireless laptop? Hogwash Eli --- In [hidden email], <jjenson@...> wrote: > > > Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of people on cell phone around me too... > and no apparent "symptoms." > I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it continues to be gone! > > Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins > has made all the difference in the world to my health! > If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... > you can expect your ES to continue! > Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have triedhundreds of thousands of products > and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any difference in health challenges! > > Jan Jenson > www.wellthychoices.net > |
Perhaps she is limiting her time on the laptop & is not reacting. Loni
--- On Sat, 1/2/10, jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]> wrote: From: jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 7:53 AM You don't "overdo" your exposure yet your using a wireless laptop? Hogwash Eli --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, <jjenson@... > wrote: > > > Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of people on cell phone around me too... > and no apparent "symptoms." > I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it continues to be gone! > > Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins > has made all the difference in the world to my health! > If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... > you can expect your ES to continue! > Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have triedhundreds of thousands of products > and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any difference in health challenges! > > Jan Jenson > www.wellthychoices. net > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Like wise i can pin point my ES really down to taking antibiotics for threedays, which made me sick. that tipped me over the edge, but i had been bombarding my body with electrical appliances and mobile phones by my bed. AndGeopathic stress. But i didn't take any notice off the signs!!!!
Phantom Text messages, emf discharges from my mobile. Waking at 4.30 am each morning. Chest palpitations from my mobile. Pressure headaches in the front of the head when using wifi. Short term memory loss. Falling over, near EMF sources.etc etc Referring back to Jans message? She has detoxed, now she puts herself back into the environment thats just stupid!!! Ps i never had a filling! Reki and Q Gongs helps control the energy we all feel. Dont panic, i know its easer said then done! Giles UK --- On Sat, 2/1/10, Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 0:13 I think ES can be caused by a number of things. I had my amalgams out and detoxed from mercury and it did help me feel less jittery. However, I still have severe ES. Have been tested for mercury load and it did come down a lot, so I don't think that's the main thing still causing the ES. For me, it's brain trauma caused by a pesticide poisoning years ago. Just my 2 cents! Taliesen On 12/31/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of > people on cell phone around me too... > and no apparent "symptoms." > I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it > continues to be gone! > > Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy > metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins > has made all the difference in the world to my health! > If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... > you can expect your ES to continue! > Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have tried > hundreds of thousands of products > and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any > difference in health challenges! > > Jan Jenson > www.wellthychoices.net > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It looks bery good !
How sis you detox exactly from Hg ? Which therapy ? Thanks Giorgio --- In [hidden email], <jjenson@...> wrote: > > > Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on wireless and lots of people on cell phone around me too... > and no apparent "symptoms." > I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so that's perhaps why it continues to be gone! > > Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing from those heavy metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins > has made all the difference in the world to my health! > If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed those amalgams... > you can expect your ES to continue! > Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since 1968 and have triedhundreds of thousands of products > and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body did I get any difference in health challenges! > > Jan Jenson > www.wellthychoices.net > |
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> Referring back to Jans message? She has detoxed, now she puts herself
> back into the environment thats just stupid!!! Maybe Jan wants to live a "normal" life, and in many parts of the world, living a normal life means being surrounded by EMF. I suppose one could move to the jungle or something, but many people don't want to do that... Marc |
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Hi Taliesen,
My current type of ES was ultimately caused by pesticides, too, altho I hada propensity for reacting oddly (from childhood) in a different way. I zapped things right and left, couldn't wear watches, felt ill when in particular places of high iron content, etc. Did you do that too previously, or did it all come on suddenly? I think pesticides just put me over the threshold, lymphatically. Diane --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:13 PM > I think ES can be caused by a number > of things. I had my amalgams out and > detoxed from mercury and it did help me feel less > jittery. However, I still > have severe ES. Have been tested for mercury load and > it did come down a > lot, so I don't think that's the main thing still causing > the ES. For me, > it's brain trauma caused by a pesticide poisoning years > ago. > Just my 2 cents! > > Taliesen > > On 12/31/09, [hidden email] > <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on > wireless and lots of > > people on cell phone around me too... > > and no apparent "symptoms." > > I do NOT overdo exposure to ES of any kind tho... so > that's perhaps why it > > continues to be gone! > > > > Getting rid of the amalgams in my mouth and detoxing > from those heavy > > metals, plus 22 years of welding toxins > > has made all the difference in the world to my > health! > > If any of you have NOT detoxed yet and/or removed > those amalgams... > > you can expect your ES to continue! > > Just my opinion... but I've been a health coach since > 1968 and have tried > > hundreds of thousands of products > > and only when I removed the heavy metals in my body > did I get any > > difference in health challenges! > > > > Jan Jenson > > www.wellthychoices.net > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [hidden email] > > > |
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Sorry to have sounded harsh, with saying stupid.
I do understand like most out here that the importance to get back to as normal life. and keeping well. But sitting in front of the "fire" again ie wifi on your computer, when youcan cable it sounds a lot safer to me! Giles --- On Mon, 4/1/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 19:49 > Referring back to Jans message? She has detoxed, now she putsherself > back into the environment thats just stupid!!! Maybe Jan wants to live a "normal" life, and in many parts of the world, living a normal life means being surrounded by EMF. I suppose one could move to the jungle or something, but many people don't want to do that... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 04/01/2010 22:47:40 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Yes almost all my ES symptoms seems to be gone! > > I'm sitting in Panera working on my new laptop on > wireless and lots of > > people on cell phone around me too... > > and no apparent "symptoms." PUK REPLIES - sadly there is no universally recognised criterion or diagnostic techniques to prove that the person has ES or to what degree, we effectively self diagnose, this is a stumbling block for us all - I would simply say thay one swallow does not make a summer. As far as the above statement goes it kind of flies in the face of common sense that to undertake such tasks in such environments that hither to were injurous to your health when evan the general populus is being told that these exposures are contrary to good health. But it rasies a question for us all in that if we were sudendly cured of ES would we become the big hypocrites and sucumb to the convenience of these technologies and forget the plight of our former ES aquaintences !!! Or would we be all the more wiser and look for safer alternatives and carry on the fight to educate on the dangers. ???? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes I think if we get better & then just go back to bombarding ourselves again when we know better is not a good thing & we could wind up back to being very sick again. Loni
--- On Tue, 1/5/10, Christina Steils <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christina Steils <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 1:36 AM Sorry to have sounded harsh, with saying stupid. I do understand like most out here that the importance to get back to as normal life. and keeping well. But sitting in front of the "fire" again ie wifi on your computer, when youcan cable it sounds a lot safer to me! Giles --- On Mon, 4/1/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Jan's ES gone! To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 19:49 > Referring back to Jans message? She has detoxed, now she puts herself > back into the environment thats just stupid!!! Maybe Jan wants to live a "normal" life, and in many parts of the world, living a normal life means being surrounded by EMF. I suppose one could move to the jungle or something, but many people don't want to do that... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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