Re: High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of readings for othe

In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by
getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF in
New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if there
would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be front
page news?!



Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.

The number of people involved are very small.


Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton





----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe

CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people...So also bring your friends, family,...!

Stephen.


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM







 



 


   
     
     
Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: <paulpjc@aol. com>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



>

> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,

> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:

>

> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by

> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF

> in

> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if

> there

> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be

> front

> page news?!

>

>

>

> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>





   
     

   
   


 



 






     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

How many do you think you can organize ?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe


CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a
big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people... So
also bring your friends, family,...!

Stephen.


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM

















Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: <paulpjc@aol. com>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



>

> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,

> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:

>

> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by

> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF

> in

> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if

> there

> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be

> front

> page news?!

>

>

>

> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Did I bump into cynical Charles?!

If all no-EMF organizations and Green parties worldwide would be involved and work together a lot of people could be mobilized. So not only ES-ers...

How many exactly only you can tell!

I think a big international protest could be worthwhile yes...

Stephen.


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:29 PM







 



 


   
     
     
How many do you think you can organize ?



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a

big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people... So

also bring your friends, family,...!



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be>

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM



Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: <paulpjc@aol. com>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



>



> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,



> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:



>



> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by



> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF



> in



> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if



> there



> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be



> front



> page news?!



>



>



>



> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>



>



>



> ------------ --------- --------- ------



>



> Yahoo! Groups Links



>



>



>



>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------ --------- --------- ------



Yahoo! Groups Links





   
     

   
   


 



 






     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Green parties do not want to get involved.

In the Netherlands not one single environmental club does want to get
involved.
Green Peace does not want to get involved.

I can see, that you are quite new in this.
I do have now 11 years experience.

I was the first in trying to get the Freiburg Appell distributed. I even
translated it into dutch.

All in all in the Netherlands, out of 16 million people, only 5.000 at max.
do not want a transmittermast in their backyard.

And only a very few are willing to demonstrate.

That is the reality.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe


Did I bump into cynical Charles?!

If all no-EMF organizations and Green parties worldwide would be involved
and work together a lot of people could be mobilized. So not only ES-ers...

How many exactly only you can tell!

I think a big international protest could be worthwhile yes...

Stephen.


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:29 PM

















How many do you think you can organize ?



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a

big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people... So

also bring your friends, family,...!



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be>

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM



Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: <paulpjc@aol. com>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



>



> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,



> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:



>



> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by



> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF



> in



> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if



> there



> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be



> front



> page news?!



>



>



>



> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>



>



>



> ------------ --------- --------- ------



>



> Yahoo! Groups Links



>



>



>



>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------ --------- --------- ------



Yahoo! Groups Links

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

We could liaise with other groups and form a coalition with MCS sufferers, and others suffering with environmental illnesses, and CFS, GWVs etc..  It makes more sense politically!!

--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 2:00 PM







 



 


   
     
     
Green parties do not want to get involved.



In the Netherlands not one single environmental club does want to get

involved.

Green Peace does not want to get involved.



I can see, that you are quite new in this.

I do have now 11 years experience.



I was the first in trying to get the Freiburg Appell distributed. I even

translated it into dutch.



All in all in the Netherlands, out of 16 million people, only 5.000 at max.

do not want a transmittermast in their backyard.



And only a very few are willing to demonstrate.



That is the reality.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:44 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



Did I bump into cynical Charles?!



If all no-EMF organizations and Green parties worldwide would be involved

and work together a lot of people could be mobilized. So not only ES-ers...



How many exactly only you can tell!



I think a big international protest could be worthwhile yes...



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be>

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:29 PM



How many do you think you can organize ?



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:24 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a



big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people... So



also bring your friends, family,...!



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be>



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM



Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: <paulpjc@aol. com>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



>



> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,



> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:



>



> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by



> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF



> in



> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if



> there



> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be



> front



> page news?!



>



>



>



> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>



>



>



> ------------ --------- --------- ------



>



> Yahoo! Groups Links



>



>



>



>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------ --------- --------- ------



Yahoo! Groups Links



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------ --------- --------- ------



Yahoo! Groups Links





   
     

   
   


 



 






     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes Kooky,

but you wouln't impress anybody with a hunderd people.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kooky" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe




We could liaise with other groups and form a coalition with MCS sufferers,
and others suffering with environmental illnesses, and CFS, GWVs etc.. It
makes more sense politically!!

--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of
readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 2:00 PM

















Green parties do not want to get involved.



In the Netherlands not one single environmental club does want to get

involved.

Green Peace does not want to get involved.



I can see, that you are quite new in this.

I do have now 11 years experience.



I was the first in trying to get the Freiburg Appell distributed. I even

translated it into dutch.



All in all in the Netherlands, out of 16 million people, only 5.000 at max.

do not want a transmittermast in their backyard.



And only a very few are willing to demonstrate.



That is the reality.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:44 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



Did I bump into cynical Charles?!



If all no-EMF organizations and Green parties worldwide would be involved

and work together a lot of people could be mobilized. So not only ES-ers...



How many exactly only you can tell!



I think a big international protest could be worthwhile yes...



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be>

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:29 PM



How many do you think you can organize ?



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:24 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a



big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people... So



also bring your friends, family,...!



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be>



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM



Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: <paulpjc@aol. com>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



>



> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,



> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:



>



> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by



> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF



> in



> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if



> there



> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be



> front



> page news?!



>



>



>



> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>



>



>



> ------------ --------- --------- ------



>



> Yahoo! Groups Links



>



>



>



>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------ --------- --------- ------



Yahoo! Groups Links



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------ --------- --------- ------



Yahoo! Groups Links

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Yahoo! Groups Links

The  MCS lobby recently have been quite active.

The focus should be on the fact that regardless of symptoms,
ES/EMS causes damage to DNA strands, causing disease process
same as with other toxicities.  This applies to those who suffer no symptoms.

News worth there are clusters of school kids getting brain tumors.  The German and French Health Officials, aren't they??


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of readings for othe
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:06 PM







 



 


   
     
     
Yes Kooky,



but you wouln't impress anybody with a hunderd people.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

From: "Kooky" <furstc0404@yahoo. com>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:36 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe



We could liaise with other groups and form a coalition with MCS sufferers,

and others suffering with environmental illnesses, and CFS, GWVs etc.. It

makes more sense politically! !



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be>

Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of

readings for othe

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 2:00 PM



Green parties do not want to get involved.



In the Netherlands not one single environmental club does want to get



involved.



Green Peace does not want to get involved.



I can see, that you are quite new in this.



I do have now 11 years experience.



I was the first in trying to get the Freiburg Appell distributed. I even



translated it into dutch.



All in all in the Netherlands, out of 16 million people, only 5.000 at max.



do not want a transmittermast in their backyard.



And only a very few are willing to demonstrate.



That is the reality.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:44 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



Did I bump into cynical Charles?!



If all no-EMF organizations and Green parties worldwide would be involved



and work together a lot of people could be mobilized. So not only ES-ers...



How many exactly only you can tell!



I think a big international protest could be worthwhile yes...



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be>



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:29 PM



How many do you think you can organize ?



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:24 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have a



big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of people... So



also bring your friends, family,...!



Stephen.



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be> wrote:



From: charles <charles@milieuziek t es.be>



Subject: Re: [eSens] High EMF's in Toyota Prius rear seat + chart of



readings for othe



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:50 AM



Stephen is a bit *weltfremd*.



The number of people involved are very small.



Greetings,



Charles Claessens



member Verband Baubiologie



www.milieuziektes. nl



www.milieuziektes. be



www.hetbitje. nl



checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----



From: <paulpjc@aol. com>



To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:21 PM



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> In a message dated 10/03/2010 10:27:21 GMT Standard Time,



> stephen_vandevijver [hidden email] writes:



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> I think if we ES-ers want some changes the only way to go for it is by



> getting the media's attention, for instance a worldwide march against EMF



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> New York, Paris and Tokyo on the same day (a bit like Live Aid)... if



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> would be millions of people marching out there, I think that would be



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> page news?!



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> Hi Stephen have you looked over the NextUp website ?



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In a message dated 10/03/2010 20:13:03 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Yes Kooky,

but you wouln't impress anybody with a hunderd people.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens




Puk replies - there are now 550 people registered with ES UK.


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In a message dated 10/03/2010 18:25:00 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

CHARLES: I'm not saying a lot of people have ES... I'm saying that to have
a big impact on EMF-regulations we will have to mobilize a lot of
people... So also bring your friends, family,...!

Stephen.



pUK REPLIES - It would appear that a lot of people do have ES, globally we
are talking millions ?


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No, not millions.

Only 10-20.000.

That is max twenty thousand persons.
That is the persons who do know that their health complaints are caused by
EMF.
(The people who do not know yet are much in larger numbers.)

And of the aforementioned people, only a five thousand persons are willing
to go into the streets.

I am not cynical, but practical.

When I started with the dutch Freiburger Appell, it was horrendous to see
how little the response was.
No political party, no politicians, no scientists, no environmental group
wanted to support.

Last year, a dutch Medical Appeal was stated.
Only 48 physicians supported it, and that is it.

And remember, only physicians are qualified to judge over health matters.
Not engineers, not biologists, not physicysts, not electriciens.
Only doctors.

It is well known how biassed the WHO is in their views, and as long as they
proclaim, that there are no adverse health effects, not much can be
achieved.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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