Thanks Marc,
Yes, I had had my email set to plain text, too, however, my computer automatically updates things and it had auto-updated (as Charles was saying recently, apparently, happened to him) the very day I began to see the characters. I WAS able to go into options and change this back to plain text. Soooo.... can you see me now? ;) I didn't even notice that I was set to receive "colors and pictures" the last time I looked. They no longer call it HTML, apparently! Charles, it may be different here than for you, but I have an "options" link to the upper right of my yahoo mail page. I then went into "general preferences" to change this. Thanks again, Marc; hope I am now working correctly, Diane --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 4:54 PM One more update, Evie -- I'm seeing these funny characters whenever I reply to an email from anyone who uses Yahoo Mail for their email (@yahoo.com) . Perhaps there are some options within Yahoo Mail which turns off this new HTML encoding? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Sorry I need to try again. Didn't work here, but I went back into preferences and it had reverted back to "colors and graphics". I think I had called it "colors and pictures" before
Diane --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 4:50 PM Thanks Marc, &nbsp; Yes, I had had my email set to plain text, too, however, my computer automatically updates things and it had auto-updated (as Charles was saying recently, apparently, happened to him) the very day I&nbsp;began to see the characters.& nbsp; I WAS able to go into options and change this back to plain text.&nbsp; Soooo....&nbsp; can&nbsp;you& nbsp;see me now?&nbsp; ;) &nbsp; I didn't even&nbsp;notice that I was set to receive "colors and pictures" the last time I looked.&nbsp; They no longer&nbsp; call it HTML, apparently!& nbsp; Charles, it may be different here than for you, but I have an "options" link to the upper right of my yahoo mail page.&nbsp; I then went into "general preferences" to change this. &nbsp; Thanks again, Marc; hope I am now working correctly, Diane &nbsp; --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Marc Martin &lt;marc@ufoseries. com&gt; wrote: From: Marc Martin &lt;marc@ufoseries. com&gt; Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 4:54 PM One more update, Evie -- I'm seeing these funny characters whenever I reply to an email from anyone who uses Yahoo Mail for their email (@yahoo.com) . Perhaps there are some options within Yahoo Mail which turns off this new HTML encoding? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi, Marc,
Nope, that is not working on my end. I went back into general preferences and it held the setting as "plain text" this time, but it still translates with the characters on my end! Diane --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 5:08 PM Sorry I need to try again.&nbsp; Didn't work here, but I&nbsp;went back into preferences and it had reverted back to "colors and graphics".&nbsp; I think I had called it "colors and pictures" before &nbsp; Diane --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Evie &lt;evie15422@yahoo. com&gt; wrote: From: Evie &lt;evie15422@yahoo. com&gt; Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 4:50 PM Thanks Marc, &amp;nbsp; Yes, I had had my email set to plain text, too, however, my computer automatically updates things and it had auto-updated (as Charles was saying recently, apparently, happened to him) the very day I&amp;nbsp;began to see the characters.& amp; nbsp; I WAS able to go into options and change this back to plain text.&amp;nbsp; Soooo....&amp; nbsp; can&amp;nbsp; you&amp; nbsp;see me now?&amp;nbsp; ;) &amp;nbsp; I didn't even&amp;nbsp; notice that I was set to receive "colors and pictures" the last time I looked.&amp; nbsp; They no longer&amp;nbsp; call it HTML, apparently!& amp; nbsp; Charles, it may be different here than for you, but I have an "options" link to the upper right of my yahoo mail page.&amp;nbsp; I then went into "general preferences" to change this. &amp;nbsp; Thanks again, Marc; hope I am now working correctly, Diane &amp;nbsp; --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Marc Martin &amp;lt;marc@ ufoseries. com&amp;gt; wrote: From: Marc Martin &amp;lt;marc@ ufoseries. com&amp;gt; Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 4:54 PM One more update, Evie -- I'm seeing these funny characters whenever I reply to an email from anyone who uses Yahoo Mail for their email (@yahoo.com) . Perhaps there are some options within Yahoo Mail which turns off this new HTML encoding? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi,
  is html for non-breaking space like you use to make horizontal spaces, such as between paragraphs. Try not hitting enter as you type. Just make it one long string of text with all the normal punctuation and see what happens. New here, Karen At 02:12 PM 6/14/2008, you wrote: >Hi, Marc, > >Nope, that is not working on my end. I went back into general >preferences and it held the setting as "plain text" this time, but >it still translates with the characters on my end! > >Diane |
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Hi Karen,
No, new paragraph is < p >   ; is a non-breaking or Hard space, which can be generated by Shift-Spacebar Also, it seems to be happening where two spaces were typed. This would be consistant with Some programs that change one space out of a pair to   ; to keep the extra space. Stewart Karen Eck wrote: >   is html for non-breaking space like you use to make horizontal > spaces, such as between paragraphs. Try not hitting enter as you > type. Just make it one long string of text with all the normal > punctuation and see what happens. > > |
Hi, Karen and Stewart,
To that end, I will try this out. I do always use double spaces between my sentences. I was taught to do that in typing class. Also I always use an extra line between the body and introduction for the same reason. These characters have never happened until last week when my computer auto-updated some programs. Every time my computer auto-updates, something goes amiss or awry! This time it was this. Last time it didn't allow me to open my email for 3 days. Go figure. lol ;) Just checking to see what it does with smilies and web abbreviation. Thanks for your collective insights. How did this work? I did not add an enter line after the introduction or between paragraphs, nor did I use the extra space at the end of my sentences. Diane --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Stewart A. <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Stewart A. <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 11:20 AM Hi Karen, No, new paragraph is < p > &nbsp ; is a non-breaking or Hard space, which can be generated by Shift-Spacebar Also, it seems to be happening where two spaces were typed. This would be consistant with Some programs that change one space out of a pair to &nbsp ; to keep the extra space. Stewart Karen Eck wrote: > &nbsp is html for non-breaking space like you use to make horizontal > spaces, such as between paragraphs. Try not hitting enter as you > type. Just make it one long string of text with all the normal > punctuation and see what happens. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
OK,
Well, it worked sometimes and not always. I was consistently using only one space. I even went back into my sent messages to make sure I did not goof in the areas this last message has the characters. I did not, but it has characters anyway. Well, I will still try to remember to write this way here. It only happens at this forum and I can probably cut down on the extra html characters, at least, using both of your suggestions. Thanks Stewart and Karen! Diane --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 11:32 AM Hi, Karen and Stewart, To that end, I will try this out. I do always use double spaces between my sentences. I was taught to do that in typing class.&nbsp; Also I always use an extra line between the body and introduction for the same reason. These characters have never happened until last week when my computer auto-updated some programs. Every time my computer auto-updates, something goes amiss or awry! This time it was this.&nbsp;Last time it didn't allow me to open my email for 3 days. Go figure. lol ;) Just checking to see what it does with smilies and web abbreviation. Thanks for your collective insights. How did this work?&nbsp;I did not add an enter line after the introduction or between paragraphs, nor did I use the extra space at the end of my sentences. Diane --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Stewart A. &lt;sandreas41@sysmatri x.net&gt; wrote: From: Stewart A. &lt;sandreas41@sysmatri x.net&gt; Subject: Re: [eSens] funny characters To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 11:20 AM Hi Karen, No, new paragraph is &lt; p &gt; &amp;nbsp ; is a non-breaking or Hard space, which can be generated by Shift-Spacebar Also, it seems to be happening where two spaces were typed. This would be consistant with Some programs that change one space out of a pair to &amp;nbsp ; to keep the extra space. Stewart Karen Eck wrote: &gt; &amp;nbsp is html for non-breaking space like you use to make horizontal &gt; spaces, such as between paragraphs. Try not hitting enter as you &gt; type. Just make it one long string of text with all the normal &gt; punctuation and see what happens. &gt; &gt; [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Stewart,
Well at least I pulled someone out of the woodwork to accurately translate the html code. This electrosensitivity is new to me and I used to be able to spend hours looking up anything I wanted to learn about. Now I am sensitive to the computer mainly the last couple of months and can only make a quick hit and run to find info. My error rate in typing and sharing info has gone up astronomically. My life has been turned upside down. Is there any cure? I live in the Eastern Oregon small town boondocks about 2 hours from Boise, ID. I'll be visiting Portland, OR relatives at the end of the month. Are there any EHS savvy doctors there? Of course, I'm really short on cash. My meager income was cut in half when I could no longer research and write articles without frying myself to a crispy critter. What kind of jobs are available for a person with fibromyalgia, MCS and EHS to computers and phones? My little home office was a sanctuary - now it feels like a radiation oven. I've used an old transistor radio and the sounds that come from everything including water pipes is really quite shocking. Phone lines, speaker wires, caller ID displays, my mom's wireless phone - Oh and the fluorescent lights! OK, that's way too long typing ... Karen --- In [hidden email], "Stewart A." <sandreas41@...> wrote: > > Hi Karen, > > No, new paragraph is < p > >   ; is a non-breaking or Hard space, which can be generated by > Shift-Spacebar > > Also, it seems to be happening where two spaces were typed. This would > be consistant with Some programs that change one space out of a pair to >   ; to keep the extra space. > > Stewart > > Karen Eck wrote: > >   is html for non-breaking space like you use to make horizontal > > spaces, such as between paragraphs. Try not hitting enter as you > > type. Just make it one long string of text with all the normal > > punctuation and see what happens. > > > > > |
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> Is there any cure?
Yes, the cure for many appears to lie in nutrition (rebuilding body systems which are underperforming), detoxification (removing heavy metals, chemicals, and parasites which are causing improper body functions), and avoidance (eliminating excessive EMF exposure while getting well). > I live in the Eastern Oregon small town boondocks about 2 hours > from Boise, ID. I'll be visiting Portland, OR relatives at the > end of the month. Are there any EHS savvy doctors there? The doctors don't need to be EHS savvy, but they do need to know how to deal with difficult cases of chronic fatigue syndrome, chemical sensitivity, fibromyalgia, etc., as these all have the same basic cures as EHS. If you're in the Pacific Northwest, one thing you can try is what I did. Call up Standard Process NW in Seattle, and ask for the names and numbers of any doctors in your area who use their products (doctors who use these products might be able to help). Here is the number: 425-882-0700 > Of course, I'm really short on cash. This of course is a problem, as there can be substantial trial & error involved, which can involve a lot of money. So finding a way to make a living while getting better is good and should be possible -- I was able to do this by finding EMF protection devices and supplements which enabled me to work again. If you've got a home office, this should be easier than with a typical workplace office, as there should be less "bad stuff" around, and you have more control over what you can do about it. Marc |
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Hi Karen,
> Well at least I pulled someone out of the woodwork to accurately > translate the html code. Yes, finding somebody here that has programming skills is about as incomprehensible from the outside, as Marc looking for a digital TV. :) > months and can only make a quick hit and run to find info. My error > rate in typing and sharing info has gone up astronomically. My life > has been turned upside down. That sounds TOO familiar. My error rate continues to worsen, so technically, I shouldn't be here typing either. (sigh) > live in the Eastern Oregon small town boondocks about 2 hours from Boise, ID. Practically in my back yard! albeit a few hundred miles away. > Are there any EHS savvy doctors there? I found a doctor in Tacoma, 10 years ago, that fully shielded his office home, copper mesh and everything. He does cranial skeletal work, and only accepts children as new patients now, or then... Otherwise, no. I don't have a doctor anymore. > What kind of jobs are available for a person with fibromyalgia, MCS > and EHS to computers and phones? That is a tough one. I had to go without for a few years, and basically spent a lot of time trimming trees in a tree farm, or watching cows on horseback. No EMF there. Those were the highlights to a long story. Stewart -- Stewart's Corral -- http://seahorse.10gbfreehost.com |
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Hi,
I've been listening to the VLF-sounds from Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html I felt really sick when listening to the sounds: -HAARP2 -HAARP3 I have only listened to it for like 2 minutes (to each file), my immediate symptoms were: -pain in heart -a bit of a headache/migraine The pain in my chest/heart remained the following hours and slowly disappeared... I also had tingling feet (and legs!). I kinda have the same thingling when I drive the van at my work, which onlyhappens like once a month when there's no other option! In the meantime I've read some stuff about HAARP. It is regarded by most asEMF-frequencies emitted by the government/military for controlling weatherconditions and for military issues... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > I can guarantee you that wired is much better than wireless. > > A lot of electrosensibles are succeptable to *dirty power*. > > Dirty power is not only in the *mains*, but also *in the air*. > > A number of electrical appliances may produce those frequencies. > > Especially TV sets do. > They have frequencies for producing the images, but others for digital > images. > So there are very different frequencies used for the image building on > television screens. > > Most of them are between 5 kHz and 200 kHz. > > I use for detection a VLF Spion with a small digital antenna. With it, I can > measure the total surface of e LCD television,and that way can find any > disturbing spots, for which electrosensibles can have adverse health > reactions. > Some television sets are fine, while others are really a disaster. > > Listen to some modulations on: > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html > > Electrosensibles beware !! > > Those sounds are audible, so the frequencies may be between 20 Hz and 20.000 > Hz. > So technically, high frequency carrier frequencies cannot be there included, > like 900 MHz or 1800 MHz. > Stiil, electrosensible people may experience trouble while just listeningto > these sounds. > The original source is not present, and neither are the Hf carrier > frequencies. > > That is the proof of the pudding, that the pulsrates, or modulations, which > are lowfrequent, do the harm to people. > > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Bitdefender > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evie" <evie15422@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello everyone-an introduction/Stewart > > > > Hi, Amy, > > > > Sorry the last reply got sent without anything in it! > > > > I am not totally sure all wired is better than wireless. For me > > personally, I see a diffference between analog and digital signals. > > This comes into play particularly with the tv sets now. I see a > > difference with "high definition" tv programs playing on my analogtv > > too. I think what the govt is trying to do is phase out > > analog transmittions altogether. I now have an analog cordless > > phone--it doesn't bother me at all. But I cannot go near my > > brother's digital phone in his home. Same with tv, my analog > > set usually doesn't bother me, except when you go into the settings and > > get the"blue screen". However, when a high def tv program comes > > on, I get headaches and dizzy. (Followed by turning it off.) > > > > I was thinking I'd be ok with a cable connection with my > > analog/digital set tuned into analog once they do away with analog next > > year, but now I am wondering whether that will work either. (Since I > > can still react to hi def programs with it set to analog.) > > > > So much of this is not known until you get into the situation and you just > > have to play around with fixes or get rid of particular things you can > > live without. But do not assume a corded item is better, because you > > may be like me and react to digital frequencies. You may need to > > experiment some with the electronics of friends to see what you can > > tolerate best. But know that that can also change. There are > > things I once tolerated well that have now become less tolerable. > > > > Also, you mentioned about wi-max towers affecting the out-lying areas of > > the country. That is true. I live in a rural area and it can > > be bad in much of the mountainous areas. But since you are house > > hunting.... If you can, try out either the highest points in your > > area, where no other mtn ranges are even close. (They position most > > towers on mtn ranges and position them so the frequencies are somewhat > > pointed down, rather than out--at least that is my experience here. > > So on mountains some ways away from towers can be quite peaceful, > > es-wise.) OR, if you can find valleys where there are twists and > > turns in the topography--no long straight valley where a tower at either > > end would affect you--that can also sometimes work well as long as there > > are no towers above. In a city setting, many buildings can also be > > shielding, but then you have to be concerned about what electronics the > > occupants are using. > > > > Also there is this site, sent to us by another member here, which you > > can use to tell where towers are: > > > > http://www.antennasearch.com/ > > > > Good luck, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, javamdnss@... javamdnss@... wrote: > > > > From: javamdnss@... javamdnss@... > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello everyone-an introduction/Stewart > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the info you gave. That's one thing I can't see about > > moving > > to the middle of nowhere. Now they are planning these WIMAX towers, I > > don't > > see why it would even matter. And right now we have a cordless phone, but > > when > > we move I'm changing that. So would you all say that wireless devices are > > worse than nonwireless? > > Amy > > > > ************ **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > > 2008. (http://citysbest. aol.com?ncid= aolacg0005000000 0102) > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
> Hi,
> > I've been listening to the VLF-sounds from Charles' site: > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html > > I felt really sick when listening to the sounds: > -HAARP2 > -HAARP3 > > I have only listened to it for like 2 minutes (to each file), my immediate > symptoms were: > -pain in heart > -a bit of a headache/migraine > > The pain in my chest/heart remained the following hours and slowly > disappeared... I also had tingling feet (and legs!). Very interesting. I wonder if the symptoms are from the sound directly, or from the corresponding magnetic fields from the speakers? What does it say about ES if the sound directly causes the symptoms? Emil |
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