Re: Hello everyone-an introduction/Stewart

Hi Loni
 
I so feel for you   You are living my greatest fear right now as I have bought a new house too and am not yet in it   My advice would be to start looking for a another home   Yes you will lose money perhaps on the deal but get out quickly before you lose your health too   It is expensive to pay for all the fixes one must do healthwise and homewise to correct these problems   You may find if you stick around that the difference you would lose is awash

In the meantime do some of the less pricey fixes   For emfs coming from outside the house  Aluminum foil can sometimes work and is not pricey in some situations   Metal screening on windows or special window films might help you   There are various fabrics you can get at a sewing goods store which have metalic threads which might work as curtains depending on where the emfs are coming from   Try this on just one window to see   Grounding your house with a metal rod helps in some situations especially if you have aluminum siding   Emfs can sometimes come in on public water pipes and there is a coupling you can use to keep these emfs from coming into your house if you notice emfs are greater around your bathroom and kitchen sink
 
For inside the house  Try turning off your electric curcuits at night and other times if possible especially to see if this helps   Sleeping on an air mattress works better for me   (I have a double high aerobed which comes in one piece and I don't have to put alum foil under it but this might work in some instances)   Sorry I am trying to avoid the strange characters I get here by not using punctuation  lol  so bear with my sentence structure  
 
You might try epsom salts and or sea salts bathing or soaking which helps the lymphatic system and see if this helps you   Bear in mind that it takes at least 3 soaks before you will see a ANY difference with this and it might even be uncomfortable to you at first   The first time I tried this it felt like my skin was on fire and I could only tolerate about 3 mins   Now it feels soothing and I stay in at least 30 mins and often longer   You could try supplements which feed the lymphatic system  calcium AEP and pantethine and coQ10   Or if you feel your liver is likely more of a problem you can take various supplements to address the needs of the liver detox pathways   I can send you info on these if you are interested   For me personally I found the mineral molybdenum and vitamin B12 to be really helpful for my liver and they are really
inexpensive   If you have sensitivities other than ES it is very likely your liver and lymphatic system need help   If this came out of nowhere ask yourself why   Have you been using computers cell phones wifi and electronic gadgets too much   Have you been in chemical or environmentally toxic situations lately   Have you been really stressed alot or very ill otherwise lately   These all affect the lymphatic system especially if you are also not getting enough exercise to move the lymphatic system along  Another cheapie thing to do   get more exercise   walk bike play ball    A mini trampoline is the best thing to use to help move the lymphatic system as it creates weightlessness and antigravity states   The lymphatic system runs against gravity and moves only with muscle movement   The lymphatic system is the garbage disposal
system of your body among other important functions
 
Only had a few minutes online so must go but there are alot of small things you can do that are straight forward and not difficult 
 
Good luck
Diane
 
 

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Loni Rosser <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:53 PM







 
Hi I'm Loni & am new to the group. I am in a real pickle!
 
I bought a home not knowing about my electrical sensitivities. Spent our life savings & I can't live here. I live in an electrical storm. I have 2 problems:
 
The one that keeps me tossing & turning is the outside electrical at night. We are in a busy intersection. Have lots of street light. There are 3 schools near with about 4 stadiums with those bright lights, power lines I can see from my home, all the homes behind me have roof top a/c units that emit emf. 
 
Soooooo..... ...my body is in huge stress when night rolls around. I can't sleep here so I go to the park/desert to sleep in my van (which is toxic). Getting too hot & need to find a solution. I'm going to SnowFlake for a few weeks to detox but then will be back. I just don't know what to do.
 
I did order the Quantum Home to try it. Can"t wait to receive it. However, I have tried some plug ins & they did not work so I don't want to get my hopes up too high. The emf in here is pretty bad.
 
My second problem is my fridge. I can't tolerate it. So I was going to move the darn thing in the garage but because it runs all the time, I still think it's going to go through the walls & effect me. I will try however.
 
If that does not work, I am entertaining& nbsp;putting a propane fridge in the garage.
 
Any advice or ideas for me. 
 
This is a life threatening situation for me. 
 
Thanks for the help! & nbsp; Loni 
 

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--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:13 AM






Hi Loni
 
I so feel for you   You are living my greatest fear right now as I have bought a new house too and am not yet in it   My advice would be to start looking for a another home   Yes you will lose money perhaps on the deal but get out quickly before you lose your health too   It is expensive to pay for all the fixes one must do healthwise and homewise to correct these problems    You may find if you stick around that the difference you would lose is awash

In the meantime do some of the less pricey fixes & nbsp; For emfs coming from outside the house  Aluminum foil can sometimes work and is not pricey in some situations    Metal screening on windows or special window films might help you   There are various fabrics you can get at a sewing goods store which have metalic threads which might work as curtains depending on where the emfs are coming from    Try this on just one window to see   Grounding your house with a metal rod helps in some situations especially if you have aluminum siding    Emfs can sometimes come in on public water pipes and there is a coupling you can use to keep these emfs from coming into your house if you notice emfs are greater around your bathroom and kitchen sink
 
For inside the house  Try turning off your electric curcuits at night and other times if possible especially to see if this helps& nbsp;  Sleeping on an air mattress works better for me   (I have a double high aerobed which comes in one piece and I don't have to put alum foil under it but this might work in some instances)    Sorry I am trying to avoid the strange characters  I get here by not using punctuation& nbsp; lol  so bear with my sentence structure   
 
You might try epsom salts and or sea salts bathing or soaking  which helps the lymphatic system and see if this helps you   Bear in mind that it takes at least 3 soaks before you will see a ANY difference with this and it might even be uncomfortable to you at first & nbsp; The first time I tried this it felt like my skin was on fire and I could only tolerate about 3 mins   Now it feels soothing and I stay in at least 30 mins and often longer    You could try supplements which feed the lymphatic system  calcium AEP and pantethine and coQ10 & nbsp; Or if you feel your liver is likely more of a problem you can take various supplements to address the needs of the liver detox pathways    I can send you info on these if you are interested    For me personally I found the mineral molybdenum and vitamin B12 to be
really helpful for my liver and they are really
inexpensive& nbsp;  If you have sensitivities other than ES it is very likely your liver and lymphatic system need help   If this came out of nowhere ask yourself why   Have you been using computers cell phones wifi and electronic gadgets too much   Have you been in chemical or environmentally toxic situations lately    Have you been really stressed alot or very ill otherwise lately    These all affect the lymphatic system especially if you are also not getting enough exercise to move the lymphatic system  along  Another cheapie thing to do   get more exercise    walk bike play ball     A mini trampoline is the best thing to use to help move the lymphatic system as it creates weightlessness and antigravity states    The lymphatic system runs against
gravity and moves only with muscle movement    The lymphatic system is the garbage disposal
system of your body among other important functions
 
Only had a few minutes online so must go but there are alot of small things you can do that are straight forward and not difficult 
 
Good luck
Diane
 
 

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:53 PM

 
Hi I'm Loni & am new to the group. I am in a real pickle!
 
I bought a home not knowing about my electrical sensitivities. Spent our life savings & I can't live here. I live in an electrical storm. I have 2 problems:
 
The one that keeps me tossing & turning is the outside electrical at night. We are in a busy intersection. Have lots of street light. There are 3 schools near with about 4 stadiums with those bright lights, power lines I can see from my home, all the homes behind me have roof top a/c units that emit emf. 
 
Soooooo..... ...my body is in huge stress when  night rolls around. I can't sleep here so I go to the park/desert to sleep in my van (which is toxic). Getting too hot & need to find  a solution. I'm going to  SnowFlake for a few weeks to detox but then will be back. I just don't know what to do.
 
I did order the Quantum Home to try it. Can"t wait to receive it. However, I have tried some plug ins & they did not work so I don't want to get my hopes up too high. The emf  in here is pretty bad.
 
My second problem is my fridge. I can' t tolerate it. So I was going to move the darn thing in the garage but because it  runs all the time, I still think it's going to go through the walls & effect me. I will try however.
 
If that does not work, I am entertaining& amp; nbsp;putting a propane fridge in the garage.
 
Any advice or  ideas for me. 
 
This is a life threatening situation for me. 
 
Thanks for the help!  & nbsp; Loni 
 

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I would say wired is always better than wireless. But some wired can be
very problematic too.
The only wireless that might buck the trend, would be analog cordless,
but that is not true for everyone.

Analog is like a stiff breeze or strong wind, but digital is like a
jackhammer, back and forth a billion times per second.

The tv you describe with an analog/digital switch, says it is actually
digital or digital capable. With the noisy electronics only on and
emitting when working with digital signals.

Those cable tv wires carry digital signals. Same category as dirty power.

Corded phones can be a real problem too, just like some computers. Some
are terribly noisy and some are quiet and well engineered. Avoid hi-tech
phones with displays and computer brains with transformers.

Towers in rural areas, yes, can be very noisy when climbing to top of
hill. Basically, that puts you/me in their line of sight, and mountain
tops are good places to receive signals. Radio works better, etc. Bad
for us.
I agree with finding a valley, always quieter in the valley.

and Amy, yes it does matter to move to rural area. The difference is
from the city, with a hundred towers and 20,000 people on their
wireless, to a rural area, with one or two towers in sight, and only 10
people with wireless devices. There may be noisy places in rural areas,
but it is still very small compared to the big picture.

Hopefully, your situation in the "city" area is not that dire.

Even rural areas need money to build towers, and prospects of many
customers to pay for it.

Stewart

Evie wrote:

For all the guys/ladies here who understand these things....
 
Is there a way that refrigerators can pick up emfs somehow from outside your home and magnify them?  I ask because I looked at dozens of homes and often the only thing I could feel inside the entire house, save emfs from the windows, was the refrigerator.  The refrigerator in nearly every house I wanted to buy gave me symptoms, but my own refrigerator does not.  Is it that everybody had a fridge that was defective somehow or is there a type of fridge that works and others that don't or is it that the fridge is picking up emfs from elsewhere?  I found this, btw, only in the houses where outside emfs were very problematic, so it seemed more than coincidence.
 
Just curious,
Diane

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Loni Rosser <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:15 AM






Yes I ordered the Quantum Home & am eagerly waiting for it's arrival Marc.
 
You are right, My biggest problem is the outside EMF. I have the fridge problem but it is getting moved in to the garage tomorrow am so I can deal with the things I can change.
 
It is the stadium lights, street lights, power lines, roof top a/c units behind me (40 or so)
that makes my stress level shoot through the roof & I have to get out of the house. I can't sleep there so it's off to the park where there is no EMF, just coyotes & bob cats & mosquitos. Oh ya , lots of kids partying.
 
I have most of the appliances turned off at the breaker box most of the time unless I need to use. The biggest problem is my fridge. It puts out a huge EM Field & is constant.
 
I scheduled a consultant EMF to come out Monday night when EMF will be killing me to measure & evaluate my situation. I can't wait for his assessment.
 
Loni

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 6:43 PM

> If there is not where else to stay, get very familiar with the fuse
> box/ breaker panel. Find out how many switches you can turn off at
> night.

Will messing with the fusebox help in this case? It sounds like most
of Loni's problematic EMF is coming from outside of her property.

I already suggested the Quantum Home to Loni, at least to try out.
It can be returned for a refund if it doesn't work, and I can think of
several other things worth trying before giving up on EMF protection
devices.

Marc


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Hi Stewart,
 
The power lines i can see from the house, There are about 3 or 4 streets in between.
 
The reason I think it is the lights is because the power lines don't give me a huge problem during the day. i have 4 sets of stadium lights around me too & are on a lot.
 
I also went to the park & tried to sleep there but the lights put such a stress on my body. Again during the day at the park, the power lines I can see did not give me the same problem. Makes me tired but not untolerable like the lights.
 
I hauled that fridge in to the garage but am concerned because it is only about 49 degrees. When it gets really really hot I wonder if it will be able to keep the food like meets & veggies so they do not grow bacteria.
 
So far I can tolerate my house better & be in it so I'd say it is working ok so far.
 
Loni

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Stewart A. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stewart A. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 8:12 AM






Hi Loni,
from my experience, I would say the power lines are more of a magnetic
problem than the lights. However when I was more sensitive, the mercury
vapor lights at an RV park irritated me enough to prevent restful sleep.
and yes, the trailer was unplugged.

How close are the A/C units?
How close are the power lines?

These are details that would help define the fields there, and hopefully
the consultant can find an area in your home with the Lowest field
strength, without just concluding that location is hopeless, which it
probably is anyways.

Regarding propane fridges, they are, like every other appliance, not all the
same. In the First travel trailer I bought, the fridge was a type with a
compressor, and it made a big magnetic field, even on DC battery power with
propane. It was actually more tolerable plugged into AC.
By the time I got the second trailer a few months later, I knew what to look
for. It had a Norcold ammonia fridge, which was quiet. The appliances were
also farthest from the bedroom in the back, so I didn't need to worry about it
and the batteries bothering me.

Keep us informed,
Stewart

Loni Rosser wrote:
> Yes I ordered the Quantum Home & am eagerly waiting for it's arrival Marc.
>  
> You are right, My biggest problem is the outside EMF. I have the fridge problem but it is getting moved in to the garage tomorrow am so I can deal with the things I can change.
>  
> It is the stadium lights, street lights, power lines, roof top a/c units behind me (40 or so)
> that makes my stress level shoot through the roof & I have to get out of the house. I can't sleep there so it's off to the park where there is no EMF, just coyotes & bob cats & mosquitos. Oh ya , lots of kids partying.
>  
> I have most of the appliances turned off at the breaker box most of the time unless I need to use. The biggest problem is my fridge. It puts out a huge EM Field & is constant.
>  
> I scheduled a consultant EMF to come out Monday night when EMF will be killing me to measure & evaluate my situation. I can't wait for his assessment.
>  
> Loni
>


















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In a message dated 6/12/2008 10:54:37 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Towers in rural areas, yes, can be very noisy when climbing to top of
hill. Basically, that puts you/me in their line of sight, and mountain
tops are good places to receive signals. Radio works better, etc. Bad
for us.
I agree with finding a valley, always quieter in the valley.



I often spend a week high up in the Jotenheimen range in Norway in a log
cabin, no electricity there, but low and behold massive transmitter some 20miles
away and weak mobile signal - I get very tired there, cant sleep too well,
your comments before say it all. When I was there recently I was videoing in
a valley just saying how nice it was free from signals etc, as I spoke my
daugter comes into veiw shouting , daddy daddy Ive just found a mobile in a bush
!!! Spooky....
I sleep best in the basement of my mother inlaws home by the way, sheilded
basements (check for radon) have got to be a good route.

Paul UK






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In a message dated 6/12/2008 4:33:47 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

your home and magnify them?  I ask because I looked at dozens of homes
and often the only thing I could feel inside the entire house, save
emfs from the windows, was the refrigerator.  The refrigerator in nearly
every house I wanted to buy gave me


Think dirty power contaminating the mains wiring or large metal object
re-radiating signals. Also possible vibrational sensitivity to the frequency of
fridge motors ?

p uk






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[hidden email] wrote:
> I sleep best in the basement of my mother inlaws home by the way, sheilded
>


Same here. My room is downstairs. It seems the 2x12 floor joists plus
underlayment plus flooring makes for good shielding.

Does this suggest the incoming signals are vertically polarized? or from
satellite?

Stewart

Loni Rosser wrote:
> The power lines i can see from the house, There are about 3 or 4 streets in between.
>

That sounds pretty good. Then your power comes in buried?
It would be useful knowledge to walk across the sidewalk and street with
a gaussmeter to locate where the fields are highest, (so you can
knowingly avoid them).

Buried lines are not really better than overhead, because they are only
2 to 3 feet below your feet, rather than 12 feet overhead. But being a
smaller distribution line, it should be of lower voltage and amperage
(smaller field).

> I also went to the park & tried to sleep there but the lights put such a stress on my body. Again during the day at the park, the power lines I can see did not give me the same problem. Makes me tired but not untolerable like the lights.
>

Forget the park then. Need a quiet place that is not lit.
Sounds like a small park.

> I hauled that fridge in to the garage but am concerned because it is only about 49 degrees. When it gets really really hot I wonder if it will be able to keep the food like meets & veggies so they do not grow bacteria.
>

The fridge will just work harder to keep the inside cool.
Probably an acceptable tradeoff.


> So far I can tolerate my house better & be in it so I'd say it is working ok so far.
>
wow, that sounds good.
Maybe it is a newer fridge with electronics in it?

I had a similar problem when building this house, when we got a new hot
water heater.
The new model had electronics to help us save money and control the
temperature or something (I forget now). It was soo loud, it went back
and we got a simple model controlled by only a thermostat.

Even getting a refridgerator with an eye to the simple model, does not
say how much magnetic field the motor puts out. Other than the motor,
there shouldn't be much there to make noise. (I am ignoring the
auto-defrost stuff, hoping it is not a high-powered thinking computer.)

As long as it is not internet capable, and trying to read RFID tags on
the milk to tell you when it goes bad, or you need to reorder
something. Such thinking freaks me out.

Stewart

The fridge from talking to many peope puts out a huge magnetic field. I, too, have not been able to tolerate houses & know now is was emf. Loni

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 1:58 AM







In a message dated 6/12/2008 4:33:47 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
evie15422@yahoo. com writes:

your home and magnify them?  I ask because I looked at dozens of homes
and often the only thing I could feel inside the entire house, save
emfs from the windows, was the refrigerator.   The refrigerator in nearly
every house I wanted to buy gave me

Think dirty power contaminating the mains wiring or large metal object
re-radiating signals. Also possible vibrational sensitivity to the frequency of
fridge motors ?

p uk

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>> I sleep best in the basement of my mother inlaws home by the way, >
> Does this suggest the incoming signals are vertically polarized? or from
> satellite?

I don't think so. You will notice when you check with a meter that field
strength generally increases with altitude. basement lowest, first floor
higher. Second story higher still etc. I am sure there is a limit, depending
on your location. It is simply because the broadcasting antennas point more
or less at the horizon:


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> > The power lines i can see from the house, There are about 3 or 4 streets in between.
>
> That sounds pretty good.

When Loni said that the power lines are 3 streets away, I assumed
that she must be talking about the really big, nasty powerlines
on towers (?) If she's merely talking about regular street powerlines,
then I'd say 3 or 4 streets distance would be great! (as for my
house, the street powerlines are on the same side of the street,
probably 20 feet away from our bedroom)

> Buried lines are not really better than overhead, because they are only
> 2 to 3 feet below your feet, rather than 12 feet overhead.

I suppose this depends on the house. In my case, our bedroom is on
the 3rd floor, which runs parallel to the street powerline and
transformer. Our house powerlines come into the house in such a way
that they pass a couple feet outside of our bedroom. Not good, although
I've found a combination of EMF devices that counteracts it well enough.

Marc

Well I thought 3 or 4 streets away would be ok. It's more the lighting for me although accumulative they all hurt. The stadium lights are the biggest concern for me. Loni

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Stewart A. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stewart A. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 8:16 AM






Loni Rosser wrote:
> The power lines i can see from the house, There are about 3 or 4 streets in between.
>

That sounds pretty good. Then your power comes in buried?
It would be useful knowledge to walk across the sidewalk and street with
a gaussmeter to locate where the fields are highest, (so you can
knowingly avoid them).

Buried lines are not really better than overhead, because they are only
2 to 3 feet below your feet, rather than 12 feet overhead. But being a
smaller distribution line, it should be of lower voltage and amperage
(smaller field).

> I also went to the park & tried to sleep there but the lights put such a stress on my body. Again during the day at the park, the power lines I can see did not give me the same problem. Makes me tired but not untolerable like the lights.
>

Forget the park then. Need a quiet place that is not lit.
Sounds like a small park.

> I hauled that fridge in to the garage but am concerned because it is only about 49 degrees. When it gets really really hot I wonder if it will be able to keep the food like meets & veggies so they do not grow bacteria.
>

The fridge will just work harder to keep the inside cool.
Probably an acceptable tradeoff.

> So far I can tolerate my house better & be in it so I'd say it is working ok so far.
>
wow, that sounds good.
Maybe it is a newer fridge with electronics in it?

I had a similar problem when building this house, when we got a new hot
water heater.
The new model had electronics to help us save money and control the
temperature or something (I forget now). It was soo loud, it went back
and we got a simple model controlled by only a thermostat.

Even getting a refridgerator with an eye to the simple model, does not
say how much magnetic field the motor puts out. Other than the motor,
there shouldn't be much there to make noise. (I am ignoring the
auto-defrost stuff, hoping it is not a high-powered thinking computer.)

As long as it is not internet capable, and trying to read RFID tags on
the milk to tell you when it goes bad, or you need to reorder
something. Such thinking freaks me out.

Stewart


















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> Well I thought 3 or 4 streets away would be ok. It's more the lighting
> for me although accumulative they all hurt. The stadium lights are the
> biggest concern for me. Loni

With the stadium lights, I still think my suggestion of the Quantum
Home is a potentially good option. I remember that when I had
my original problems, I also was trying to treat problems that seemed
to be coming from outside of the house (powerlines or cellphone
towers -- I was never sure). Just using the Quantum power strips
helped a great deal. I think this is because the energy of
the device propagates through the powerlines, creating a "bubble"
of improved energy throughout the house.

And if this fails, placing other EMF devices on the fusebox
might still work, as each device has its own unique energy.
A larger Springlife Polarizer or a few Tachyon silica discs
would be the next option I'd try.

As for the fridge, if the problem is the fridge motor dumping
RF noise onto the powerlines, then using a noise filter on
that outlet could help. Some folks here have had success
with the Stetzer plugin filters -- I'm using Furman powerstrips
that filters whatever is plugged into them.

Marc

In a message dated 6/13/2008 5:48:56 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I don't think so. You will notice when you check with a meter that field
strength generally increases with altitude. basement lowest, first floor
higher. Second story higher still etc. I am sure there is a limit, depending
on your location. It is simply because the broadcasting antennas point more
or less at the horizon:



Exactly so in the motherinlaws house. A few yrs ago I could sleep upstairs
but the place has gradually become more saturated (plus High voltage lines
nearby) it is also timber framed whereas basement is solid thick concrete in
rocky ground. Basically a new building has got in way of major cell for the
area so Coca-cola have adopted 9 antenna on 2 of their chimneys 3/4s mile away.
Interestingly enough Gro Harlem Brudlandt (ex director general of WHO - she
is ES-ish, now works for Coca-cola perhaps I should tell her that I no
longer have a coke and a smile !

P UK






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> LOL  Well I tried no punctuation, but I get the characters with or
> without!  Hmmmm  I am stumped  No settings on my end were
> changed when I checked this

Note that those funny characters are HTML code (used for making web
pages).
There may have been some problem introduced in YahooGroups software --
a potential workaround is to find the option within your email software
to send your e-mails as "plain text", not HTML. (I've always sent
my emails as plain text... no need to get any fancier)

Marc

Hi Marc,
 
Thanks for the reply. I have ordered the Quantum Home. I haven't gotten yet. I talked to the lady about the polarizers you hang around your neck. You said the lower level one was better for you didn't you. She suggested the higher level.
 
She mentioned Stetzer to me & said she had a lot of good feedback on them. I will look in to them.
 
I'm having a EMF consultant/specialist come to the house Monday evening to measure the problem here & give my suggestions.
 
I hauled the fridge in to the garage yesteday & I was in the house all day & spent the night here to, however, I am having trouble with air quality in the house. Couch is offgasing & daughter has fagrance products I can't seem to get her to stop using them.
 
So I'm hoping that reducing the load by putting that darn fridge in the garage will help with the nighttime bombardment. Last night was ok with emf. What a relief.
 
I have a problem with the fridge in the garage however. It's gets too hot & the fridge got up to 50 degrees wich is not cold enough. This am it was 36. Ok. It will be getting hotter here  & may end up having to put a window a/c in there but then there is more emf to deal with.
Just can't win, ahhhhh. I'll just pitch the thing & use a cooler-ha.
 
I bought a insulation blanket last night & wrapped it around it.
 
Moving the fridge has made a huge difference for me so far! Loni

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Loni/New/Needs Help!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:34 AM






> Well I thought 3 or 4 streets away would be ok. It's more the lighting
> for me although accumulative they all hurt. The stadium lights are the
> biggest concern for me. Loni

With the stadium lights, I still think my suggestion of the Quantum
Home is a potentially good option. I remember that when I had
my original problems, I also was trying to treat problems that seemed
to be coming from outside of the house (powerlines or cellphone
towers -- I was never sure). Just using the Quantum power strips
helped a great deal. I think this is because the energy of
the device propagates through the powerlines, creating a "bubble"
of improved energy throughout the house.

And if this fails, placing other EMF devices on the fusebox
might still work, as each device has its own unique energy.
A larger Springlife Polarizer or a few Tachyon silica discs
would be the next option I'd try.

As for the fridge, if the problem is the fridge motor dumping
RF noise onto the powerlines, then using a noise filter on
that outlet could help. Some folks here have had success
with the Stetzer plugin filters -- I'm using Furman powerstrips
that filters whatever is plugged into them.

Marc

















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> Thanks for the reply. I have ordered the Quantum Home. I haven't gotten
> yet. I talked to the lady about the polarizers you hang around your neck.
> You said the lower level one was better for you didn't you. She suggested
> the higher level.

Yes, the smaller polarizer pendant is what I typically use, but remember
that I usually combine it with some other type of device. I have indeed
used the larger polarizers, but usually only when the environment is
worse, or if I've got bad allergies, or if I'm not using any other
devices. For me, the larger devices cause too many stored toxins
to be mobilized, and I don't feel as well compared to just using
the smaller device. You may not experience this problem, and may
be able to use the larger devices just fine.

> however, I am having trouble with
> air quality in the house. Couch is offgasing & daughter has fagrance
> products I can't seem to get her to stop using them.

For offgassing and other obnoxious smells, I've had luck with air
purifiers
which work by oxidizing / destroying those smells. The oxidation is
usually
done by ozone or other oxidizing substances. The only thing to avoid
with these is you don't want too much ozone in your house, as it can
smell funny and also start oxidizing toxins in your lungs and skin,
which
can be irritating. For these, I've had luck with various products --
Aranizers, Biozone Scientific, Ecoquest, AirSource, etc. Also, I
think that some of the EMF devices on the market also have a tendency
to reduce the health problems of offgassing / odors.

Marc

One more update, Evie -- I'm seeing these funny characters
whenever I reply to an email from anyone who uses Yahoo Mail
for their email (@yahoo.com). Perhaps there are some options
within Yahoo Mail which turns off this new HTML encoding?

Marc

Hello Marc,

there was a time where one could adjust a number of options in Yahoo, like
advertisemsnts, e-mail etc.

Now, I cannot find that anymore.

I cannot find the adjustment between HTML text and normal text.

At the moment I receive funny characters, not only from english subscribers,
but also from german members.
And that was a few weeks ago not the case.

I checked my keyboard settings (US international) and they are still the
same as for years.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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