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Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter

SArjuna

Loni wrote:
"The material states that you need around 20 of them for a whole house."


The thing to keep in mind is that you are not filtering the space of a
house, an apartment, or whatever.   How many rooms you have is not the issue. 
What the Graham Stetzer filters are "filtering" is the electrical current,
removing particularly damaging frequencies.

Consequently, the number of filters needed depends on how much "dirty
electricity" is present in your current.   It has nothing to do with how many
rooms that current runs through.

20 filters being what's needed on average does not tell you what your
particular place will need.  To know that, you must use a Stetzerizer surgemeter,
which will give you a digital readout that you want to see come down to
about 20. As you plug filters in, anywhere in the house, to the line the meter
is on, you will see the reading come down.  (It is actually best not to have
a filter plugged in the the same outlet where you are taking the meter
readings.)   Most homes in the USA have two lines, so repeat the process for
both lines.

You'll be able to identify which outlets are on which line, because the
moment you plug a filter in anywhere in the house the reading will go down at
the outlets on that same line.

In some areas, where the neutral is overloaded, you will hit a plateau and
adding more filters will not bring the reading down to 20.  At my own house
this is the case, and my readings are usually over 30.   Still, that is
waaaay better than without filters, and I do quite well at 30.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com








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Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter

Andrew McAfee
Also, when you add a filter like the Stetzer Filter, you must check  
with a gauss meter if the magnetic field on the wire/line is kicked up.  
If the neutral wires (or other) are balanced or wired incorrectly, the  
return wires are going to be overloaded and a magnetic field will be  
kicked up in the room.
Andrew

On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

>
> Loni wrote:
> "The material states that you need around 20 of them for a whole  
> house."
>
>
> The thing to keep in mind is that you are not filtering the space of a
> house, an apartment, or whatever.   How many rooms you have is not the  
> issue. 
> What the Graham Stetzer filters are "filtering" is the electrical  
> current,
> removing particularly damaging frequencies.
>
> Consequently, the number of filters needed depends on how much "dirty
> electricity" is present in your current.   It has nothing to do with  
> how many
> rooms that current runs through.
>
> 20 filters being what's needed on average does not tell you what your
> particular place will need.  To know that, you must use a Stetzerizer  
> surgemeter,
> which will give you a digital readout that you want to see come down to
> about 20. As you plug filters in, anywhere in the house, to the line  
> the meter
> is on, you will see the reading come down.  (It is actually best not  
> to have
> a filter plugged in the the same outlet where you are taking the meter
> readings.)   Most homes in the USA have two lines, so repeat the  
> process for
> both lines.
>
> You'll be able to identify which outlets are on which line, because the
> moment you plug a filter in anywhere in the house the reading will go  
> down at
> the outlets on that same line.
>
> In some areas, where the neutral is overloaded, you will hit a plateau  
> and
> adding more filters will not bring the reading down to 20.  At my own  
> house
> this is the case, and my readings are usually over 30.   Still, that is
> waaaay better than without filters, and I do quite well at 30.
>
> Shivani Arjuna
> www.LifeEnergies.com
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Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter

Loni Rosser
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When you say you do quite well at 30. Do you mean 30 filters in your home? Loni

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Subject: [eSens] Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 7:26 PM









Loni wrote:
"The material states that you need around 20 of them for a whole house."

The thing to keep in mind is that you are not filtering the space of a
house, an apartment, or whatever.   How many rooms you have is not the issue. 
What the Graham Stetzer filters are "filtering" is the electrical current,
removing particularly damaging frequencies.

Consequently, the number of filters needed depends on how much "dirty
electricity" is present in your current.   It has nothing to do with how many
rooms that current runs through.

20 filters being what's needed on average does not tell you what your
particular place will need.  To know that, you must use a Stetzerizer surgemeter,
which will give you a digital readout that you want to see come down to
about 20. As you plug filters in, anywhere in the house, to the line the meter
is on, you will see the reading come down.  (It is actually best not to have
a filter plugged in the the same outlet where you are taking the meter
readings.)   Most homes in the USA have two lines, so repeat the process for
both lines.

You'll be able to identify which outlets are on which line, because the
moment you plug a filter in anywhere in the house the reading will go down at
the outlets on that same line.

In some areas, where the neutral is overloaded, you will hit a plateau and
adding more filters will not bring the reading down to 20.  At my own house
this is the case, and my readings are usually over 30.   Still, that is
waaaay better than without filters, and I do quite well at 30.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies. com

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Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter

Marc Martin
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> When you say you do quite well at 30. Do you mean 30 filters in your
> home? Loni

She means that the reading on the stetzerizer meter has been lowered
to 30.

I find that in my own house, the readings on the stetzerizer meter
change dramatically during the day. Sometimes the readings are
quite low (~40), while other times they are pretty high (~1000).
I don't use stetzer filters, because for me they make things
worse.

Marc

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Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter

charles-4
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Hello Loni,

that is what she meant.

However, this is symptoms fighting.

For me, it looks better for first looking and searching what is causing this
dirty power, and eliminate that source.
For instance, 12/24 Volt halogen bulbs can raise the values, measured with a
Stetzerizer surgemeter enormously.
Replacing them with halogen on 230 or 110 Volt, without any transformator is
much better.

Here in Europe, Osram is bringing out LEDs built into a normal glas bulb,
which is fairly good.

Then, when most sources have been eliminated, check again with the surge
meter, and place filters accordingly.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Loni" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter


When you say you do quite well at 30. Do you mean 30 filters in your home?
Loni

--- On Sun, 4/12/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 7:26 PM









Loni wrote:
"The material states that you need around 20 of them for a whole house."

The thing to keep in mind is that you are not filtering the space of a
house, an apartment, or whatever. How many rooms you have is not the issue.
What the Graham Stetzer filters are "filtering" is the electrical current,
removing particularly damaging frequencies.

Consequently, the number of filters needed depends on how much "dirty
electricity" is present in your current. It has nothing to do with how many
rooms that current runs through.

20 filters being what's needed on average does not tell you what your
particular place will need. To know that, you must use a Stetzerizer
surgemeter,
which will give you a digital readout that you want to see come down to
about 20. As you plug filters in, anywhere in the house, to the line the
meter
is on, you will see the reading come down. (It is actually best not to have
a filter plugged in the the same outlet where you are taking the meter
readings.) Most homes in the USA have two lines, so repeat the process for
both lines.

You'll be able to identify which outlets are on which line, because the
moment you plug a filter in anywhere in the house the reading will go down
at
the outlets on that same line.

In some areas, where the neutral is overloaded, you will hit a plateau and
adding more filters will not bring the reading down to 20. At my own house
this is the case, and my readings are usually over 30. Still, that is
waaaay better than without filters, and I do quite well at 30.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies. com

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Re: Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter

Loni Rosser
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Oh, how do they make things worse for you? That's not good. Loni

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> When you say you do quite well at 30. Do you mean 30 filters in your
> home? Loni

She means that the reading on the stetzerizer meter has been lowered
to 30.

I find that in my own house, the readings on the stetzerizer meter
change dramatically during the day. Sometimes the readings are
quite low (~40), while other times they are pretty high (~1000).
I don't use stetzer filters, because for me they make things
worse.

Marc
















     

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Marc Martin
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> Oh, how do they make things worse for you? That's not good. Loni

I just found them agitating. I didn't even need to be that
close to them to be agitated by whatever they were doing to
the electricity. I've tried some other power filters by
other companies and noticed the same effect in some of
these as well.

There are a few power line filters which don't cause me
any agitation, but in these cases I haven't been too
convinced that they were all that helpful, either.
They did lower the meter reading on the Stetzerizer
filter, though (the brands names for these were "Furman"
and "PS Audio", both are companies which sell power line
filters for audio / video enthusiasts)

Marc

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Loni Rosser
thanks Marc, I guess I could try it. Sounds like it was stressful to you. Some times the changes are not for the better. Loni

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> Oh, how do they make things worse for you? That's not good. Loni

I just found them agitating. I didn't even need to be that
close to them to be agitated by whatever they were doing to
the electricity. I've tried some other power filters by
other companies and noticed the same effect in some of
these as well.

There are a few power line filters which don't cause me
any agitation, but in these cases I haven't been too
convinced that they were all that helpful, either.
They did lower the meter reading on the Stetzerizer
filter, though (the brands names for these were "Furman"
and "PS Audio", both are companies which sell power line
filters for audio / video enthusiasts)

Marc
















     

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