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Re: EHS part 5

Marc Martin
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> But,  I  didn't get  any  response
> from  dozens  of  e-mails  I  sent  out  to  doctors , WHO , Sweden
> social service , media  etc..  .(including You, Marc!)

Umm, I replied back to your emails, and you replied back to my
replies!  So already I've found one thing you've said that
cannot be trusted.

Marc
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Re: EHS part 5

Andre
I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response
was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me?
You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the
other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere?
 ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the
eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the
reason your message was not accepted?
THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE.
And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie.
Andre.

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Re: EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :)

Elysia Drew
Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to
 look thru. 

Love & blessings,
Elysia


________________________________
 From: Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5
 

 
I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response
was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me?
You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the
other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere?
 ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the
eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the
reason your message was not accepted?
THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE.
And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie.
Andre.

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Re: EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :)

Aimee-2
Agreed 100% !!!!!

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From: Elysia Drew <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :)
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 9:56 AM


Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to
look thru. 

Love & blessings,
Elysia


________________________________
From: Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5


 
I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response
was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me?
You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the
other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere?
 ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the
eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the
reason your message was not accepted?
THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE.
And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie.
Andre.

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Re: EHS part 5

PUK
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black strands - Morgellans ???
puk
 
 
In a message dated 30/08/2012 14:49:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Hello Marc!
Last
week I sent e-mails to You ( august 22, part 2 ),  but didn't get
response. I,m Russian and it takes time for me to compose  e-mails. That
is way I was offering You contact by Skype.
I'm not good  with computer and use it mostly to watch movies .I don't read
newspapers and  don't watch TV.
A few weeks ago, I  was watching russian movie  about mafia using some
device to kill people over the phone.
I wanted  to know , what it was ? and looked up on YouTube . That led me to
videos about  EHS, EMR,EMF,ES
etc..I
was watching videos and visited many websites for  three days in a raw. I
saw big difference, compare to six years ago.   Now people are aware of
colossal problem for humankind. I  was face  to face with death a few
times in my life. God didn't let it to happen.I  believe He
had a mission for me, and time has come.
You could read  only first
part of  my story - getting in trouble, second part -  curing  and  
recovery -  I didn't post. Why ?    If I will start to pass this info.
myself,  People still will be  suffering  and dieing  for 20 more years.
Only after clinical  research  will be completed, results can be
delivered to medical  staff and People  at
ones, thru the media and WHO - how to treat  disease!   Now,  how I
discovered the cure  ?


From this point I'm going to share with   You  my  thoughts about  EMR
and EHS  --- how it  works. EMR  gets in to human body from different
sources. 1- the ones  that are far away -  Radio stations, Power lines,
Cell towers etc..  They hit as from  head to feet evenly.  2- the ones
that are  close to us - Cellphones, Computers, Fluorescent
lamps, TVs, Appliances  etc.. They hit first parts of our body more
intensively to which they are  closer. Lets say You are talking on
cellphone. At this moment Your brain  (most sensitive organ), is getting
more EMR then the rest of the  body.  Headache makes You  to hang up  
and  not   to use phone
till  You feel better. Why You feel better after  sometime ?

EMR  doesn't  stay in  one part  of the body at  high  level  and  low
at another  all  the time. It starts to spread  out  evenly  all   over  
Your  body.  Your  head  shares   its  EMR  with the  rest of  Your  
body   and  pain goes away. Well,  it's easy for levels  1   thru  6 ,
EMR  has  place to run away  from   head. Levels  7  and up have their  
body  contaminated
very  high  and   don't   get  relief  that  fast.

As You
already  know, I was contaminated  to level  10  in short period  of  
time. In my case, right  hand was contaminated   much  higher,  it took  
2-3 hours for  EMR  to  spread  evenly  and  hit  me  on  my   head  real
hard.  Because  I  could  see  the  Filaments, a  bunch of thin black
yarn,  going   in to  my  body , actually  saved  my  life.   I  FOUND  
MATERIAL THAT  WAS SUCKING  BLACK   FILAMENTS  OUT OF ME!  I  could  see
how stream   is  going  out ,  not  in.  I  was   holding  my  hand  2-3  
inches  from   it  and  that's  why  I
could  see   and  discover   the  CURE!  I  would never   find  out,
what  this material  can  do , if   I  would  just  touch or  hold  it (
I   would  not be able  to  see  the  stream )   and  I would  not
survive.

Marc!   I hope now You have  an  answer  to  Your  question.

" If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it  to yourself for the
past 6 years?"

Even today I have to knock   hard  on the doors,  to deliver  my  knowledge
  to  People

Healing process takes time. After 3-4 hours of  curing myself , I
couldn't see my  EMF  anymore.   I   thought  that  I'm  good  now and  
went  shopping  with  Marcela. I  was   wrong!  When  I  was  driving  
under   power  line,  it  hit  me.  When  I   was  reaching  for cheese  
in  supermarkets   refrigerator , my  head  was  close to  fluorescent  
lamp - it  hit  me.What  happened ?  From   level  10  I  moved  
myself  only  to   level  8 - 9 . It  took  10 - 12  hours  more   to  
complete  detox,  and  I  did  it   for so long  because  I  knew  it's  
going   to  help  me. Also  healing  procedure,   treatment    is  
different  for levels  7 - 10 .  

And  now  I  will  answer  Your   second  question

And do you really think this (whatever it is)  will work on anyone but
yourself? We have years of experience
here  observing that things that help one person can.


I   don't  want  to  mislead  anybody  and  an  till   I  cure  somebody
else , beside   myself . I  believe , that  first  treatment , people  
should  receive  under  supervision  and  I   don't  think  it  will  be
proper  for   me  to  release  the  Recipe  at  this   moment.  I  
understand  that  the  best   would  be  to  do  Clinical  research .  
I'm  willing to participate in research . I'm not afraid to get  
contaminated over and over again, because I can get rid of it  anytime  
and  I  know  treatment  process.   But,  I  didn't get  any  response
from   dozens  of  e-mails  I  sent  out  to   doctors , WHO , Sweden
social service , media  etc..   .(including You,  Marc!)
So ,  Guys  ,  I'm  asking  You  

P.S.
I  spent  7  hours  to  write  this letter . You  need  to  be patient  
when  ask  me  questions--- it  will take   time  for  me  to  answer.
Andre.

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Re: EHS part 5

KarenEck
No, these black strands, looking like thin yarn, were that he could SEE the energy between him and the broken computer screen when he was first exposed. He continued to see what we cannot see - the lines of energy and which way they are going ... so he could see when the cure he found was pulling the EMF out of his body.

Nothing to to do with those physically manifested Morgellons black filaments coming from under someone's skin.

:0)
Karen

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
> black strands - Morgellans ???
> puk
>  
>  
> In a message dated 30/08/2012 14:49:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
> fiastudio91@... writes:
 

> As You
> already  know, I was contaminated  to level  10  in short period  of  
> time. In my case, right  hand was contaminated   much  higher,  it took  
> 2-3 hours for  EMR  to  spread  evenly  and  hit  me  on  my   head  real
> hard.  Because  I  could  see  the  Filaments, a  bunch of thin black
> yarn,  going   in to  my  body , actually  saved  my  life.   I  FOUND  
> MATERIAL THAT  WAS SUCKING  BLACK   FILAMENTS  OUT OF ME!  I  could  see
> how stream   is  going  out ,  not  in.  I  was   holding  my  hand  2-3  
> inches  from   it  and  that's  why  I
> could  see   and  discover   the  CURE!  I  would never   find  out,
> what  this material  can  do , if   I  would  just  touch or  hold  it (
> I   would  not be able  to  see  the  stream )   and  I would  not
> survive.
>

>



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Re: EHS part 5

PUK
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
THAT ME OUT !
 
 
In a message dated 30/08/2012 21:44:17 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
 writes:

 
 
 
No, these black strands, looking like thin yarn, were that he could SEE the
 energy between him and the broken computer screen when he was first
exposed.  He continued to see what we cannot see - the lines of energy and which
way  they are going ... so he could see when the cure he found was pulling
the EMF  out of his body.

Nothing to to do with those physically manifested  Morgellons black
filaments coming from under someone's skin.  

:0)
Karen

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , paulpjc@...
 wrote:
>
> black strands - Morgellans ???
> puk
>  
>
> In a message dated 30/08/2012 14:49:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
> fiastudio91@... writes:

> As You
> already know, I  was contaminated to level 10 in short period of
> time. In my case,  right hand was contaminated much higher, it took
> 2-3 hours for EMR to  spread evenly and hit me on my head real
> hard. Because I could see  the Filaments, a bunch of thin black
> yarn, going in to my body ,  actually saved my life. I FOUND
> MATERIAL THAT WAS SUCKING BLACK  FILAMENTS OUT OF ME! I could see
> how stream is going out , not in. I  was holding my hand 2-3
> inches from it and that's why I
>  could see and discover the CURE! I would never find out,
> what this  material can do , if I would just touch or hold it (
> I would not be  able to see the stream ) and I would not
> survive.
>  

>






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Re: EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :)

Paul-2
In reply to this post by Elysia Drew
Hi, I see your are frustrated and I just wanted to put in what has worked for me. Number one is complete avoidance where I have that option: After identifying that EMFs were causing me grief I set out to identify and  the areas I felt horrible in and the areas that didn't cause me any problems. There are many similar areas documented on EMFWATCH on youtube. I got rid of all wireless devices : cordless phone, cell phone, wifi, smart meter, iPad, laptop, etc.. and that was more than half the cure. I was my first worst enemy when it came to exposing myself to these toxic emissions Then I took steps to avoid places that had wifi, ( starbucks anyone?) cell towers, cell antennas, people utilizing wirelss devices, and asked those around me not use their cell phones and wireless devices around me and to keep them on airplane mode. This helped even more.


I have found yeast overgrowth throught the body to be an issue associated with EHS also, so implementing a diet as devoid of the foods that the body recognizes or breaks down into sugars has also helped greatly. ( yeasts and fungi thrive on sugars)  For the most part, whatever the body does not break down into amino acids ( protiens) It breaks down into sugars (starch( potatoes, carrots, beets, etc...), grains and grian products,[ wheat, rice, oats, bulgur, quinoa, etc....) legumes ( lentils, beans, peanuts, etc...) , This in conjunction with taking rounds of Candex to help neutralize what is left in your system till it even out at the optimal levels.


--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

>
> Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to
>  look thru. 
>
> Love & blessings,
> Elysia
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Andrey Filatov <fiastudio91@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <marc@...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5
>  
>
>  
> I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response
> was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me?
> You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the
> other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere?
>  ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the
> eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the
> reason your message was not accepted?
> THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE.
> And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie.
> Andre.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>  
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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Re: EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :)

Aimee-2
How did you get rid of your smart meter????   you have no electricity??

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, schlumlum <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: schlumlum <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:42 AM


Hi, I see your are frustrated and I just wanted to put in what has worked for me. Number one is complete avoidance where I have that option: After identifying that EMFs were causing me grief I set out to identify and  the areas I felt horrible in and the areas that didn't cause me any problems. There are many similar areas documented on EMFWATCH on youtube. I got rid of all wireless devices : cordless phone, cell phone, wifi, smart meter, iPad, laptop, etc.. and that was more than half the cure. I was my first worst enemy when it came to exposing myself to these toxic emissions Then I took steps to avoid places that had wifi, ( starbucks anyone?) cell towers, cell antennas, people utilizing wirelss devices, and asked those around me not use their cell phones and wireless devices around me and to keep them on airplane mode. This helped even more.


I have found yeast overgrowth throught the body to be an issue associated with EHS also, so implementing a diet as devoid of the foods that the body recognizes or breaks down into sugars has also helped greatly. ( yeasts and fungi thrive on sugars)  For the most part, whatever the body does not break down into amino acids ( protiens) It breaks down into sugars (starch( potatoes, carrots, beets, etc...), grains and grian products,[ wheat, rice, oats, bulgur, quinoa, etc....) legumes ( lentils, beans, peanuts, etc...) , This in conjunction with taking rounds of Candex to help neutralize what is left in your system till it even out at the optimal levels.


--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

>
> Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to
>  look thru. 
>
> Love & blessings,
> Elysia
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Andrey Filatov <fiastudio91@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <marc@...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5

>
>  
> I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response
> was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me?
> You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the
> other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere?
>  ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the
> eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the
> reason your message was not accepted?
> THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE.
> And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie.
> Andre.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

>
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