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> But, I didn't get any response
> from dozens of e-mails I sent out to doctors , WHO , Sweden > social service , media etc.. .(including You, Marc!) Umm, I replied back to your emails, and you replied back to my replies! So already I've found one thing you've said that cannot be trusted. Marc |
I meant REAL response. I was asking You for advice but Your response
was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me? You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the other parts are complete?). Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere? ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the reason your message was not accepted? THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE. And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie. Andre. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to
look thru. Love & blessings, Elysia ________________________________ From: Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5 I meant REAL response. I was asking You for advice but Your response was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me? You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the other parts are complete?). Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere? ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the reason your message was not accepted? THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE. And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie. Andre. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Agreed 100% !!!!!
--- On Thu, 8/30/12, Elysia Drew <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elysia Drew <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :) To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 9:56 AM Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to look thru. Love & blessings, Elysia ________________________________ From: Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5 I meant REAL response. I was asking You for advice but Your response was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me? You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the other parts are complete?). Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere? ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the reason your message was not accepted? THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE. And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie. Andre. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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black strands - Morgellans ???
puk In a message dated 30/08/2012 14:49:24 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Hello Marc! Last week I sent e-mails to You ( august 22, part 2 ), but didn't get response. I,m Russian and it takes time for me to compose e-mails. That is way I was offering You contact by Skype. I'm not good with computer and use it mostly to watch movies .I don't read newspapers and don't watch TV. A few weeks ago, I was watching russian movie about mafia using some device to kill people over the phone. I wanted to know , what it was ? and looked up on YouTube . That led me to videos about EHS, EMR,EMF,ES etc..I was watching videos and visited many websites for three days in a raw. I saw big difference, compare to six years ago. Now people are aware of colossal problem for humankind. I was face to face with death a few times in my life. God didn't let it to happen.I believe He had a mission for me, and time has come. You could read only first part of my story - getting in trouble, second part - curing and recovery - I didn't post. Why ? If I will start to pass this info. myself, People still will be suffering and dieing for 20 more years. Only after clinical research will be completed, results can be delivered to medical staff and People at ones, thru the media and WHO - how to treat disease! Now, how I discovered the cure ? From this point I'm going to share with You my thoughts about EMR and EHS --- how it works. EMR gets in to human body from different sources. 1- the ones that are far away - Radio stations, Power lines, Cell towers etc.. They hit as from head to feet evenly. 2- the ones that are close to us - Cellphones, Computers, Fluorescent lamps, TVs, Appliances etc.. They hit first parts of our body more intensively to which they are closer. Lets say You are talking on cellphone. At this moment Your brain (most sensitive organ), is getting more EMR then the rest of the body. Headache makes You to hang up and not to use phone till You feel better. Why You feel better after sometime ? EMR doesn't stay in one part of the body at high level and low at another all the time. It starts to spread out evenly all over Your body. Your head shares its EMR with the rest of Your body and pain goes away. Well, it's easy for levels 1 thru 6 , EMR has place to run away from head. Levels 7 and up have their body contaminated very high and don't get relief that fast. As You already know, I was contaminated to level 10 in short period of time. In my case, right hand was contaminated much higher, it took 2-3 hours for EMR to spread evenly and hit me on my head real hard. Because I could see the Filaments, a bunch of thin black yarn, going in to my body , actually saved my life. I FOUND MATERIAL THAT WAS SUCKING BLACK FILAMENTS OUT OF ME! I could see how stream is going out , not in. I was holding my hand 2-3 inches from it and that's why I could see and discover the CURE! I would never find out, what this material can do , if I would just touch or hold it ( I would not be able to see the stream ) and I would not survive. Marc! I hope now You have an answer to Your question. " If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years?" Even today I have to knock hard on the doors, to deliver my knowledge to People Healing process takes time. After 3-4 hours of curing myself , I couldn't see my EMF anymore. I thought that I'm good now and went shopping with Marcela. I was wrong! When I was driving under power line, it hit me. When I was reaching for cheese in supermarkets refrigerator , my head was close to fluorescent lamp - it hit me.What happened ? From level 10 I moved myself only to level 8 - 9 . It took 10 - 12 hours more to complete detox, and I did it for so long because I knew it's going to help me. Also healing procedure, treatment is different for levels 7 - 10 . And now I will answer Your second question And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can. I don't want to mislead anybody and an till I cure somebody else , beside myself . I believe , that first treatment , people should receive under supervision and I don't think it will be proper for me to release the Recipe at this moment. I understand that the best would be to do Clinical research . I'm willing to participate in research . I'm not afraid to get contaminated over and over again, because I can get rid of it anytime and I know treatment process. But, I didn't get any response from dozens of e-mails I sent out to doctors , WHO , Sweden social service , media etc.. .(including You, Marc!) So , Guys , I'm asking You P.S. I spent 7 hours to write this letter . You need to be patient when ask me questions--- it will take time for me to answer. Andre. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
No, these black strands, looking like thin yarn, were that he could SEE the energy between him and the broken computer screen when he was first exposed. He continued to see what we cannot see - the lines of energy and which way they are going ... so he could see when the cure he found was pulling the EMF out of his body.
Nothing to to do with those physically manifested Morgellons black filaments coming from under someone's skin. :0) Karen --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > black strands - Morgellans ??? > puk > > > In a message dated 30/08/2012 14:49:24 GMT Daylight Time, > fiastudio91@... writes: > As You > already know, I was contaminated to level 10 in short period of > time. In my case, right hand was contaminated much higher, it took > 2-3 hours for EMR to spread evenly and hit me on my head real > hard. Because I could see the Filaments, a bunch of thin black > yarn, going in to my body , actually saved my life. I FOUND > MATERIAL THAT WAS SUCKING BLACK FILAMENTS OUT OF ME! I could see > how stream is going out , not in. I was holding my hand 2-3 > inches from it and that's why I > could see and discover the CURE! I would never find out, > what this material can do , if I would just touch or hold it ( > I would not be able to see the stream ) and I would not > survive. > >
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THAT ME OUT !
In a message dated 30/08/2012 21:44:17 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: No, these black strands, looking like thin yarn, were that he could SEE the energy between him and the broken computer screen when he was first exposed. He continued to see what we cannot see - the lines of energy and which way they are going ... so he could see when the cure he found was pulling the EMF out of his body. Nothing to to do with those physically manifested Morgellons black filaments coming from under someone's skin. :0) Karen --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , paulpjc@... wrote: > > black strands - Morgellans ??? > puk > > > In a message dated 30/08/2012 14:49:24 GMT Daylight Time, > fiastudio91@... writes: > As You > already know, I was contaminated to level 10 in short period of > time. In my case, right hand was contaminated much higher, it took > 2-3 hours for EMR to spread evenly and hit me on my head real > hard. Because I could see the Filaments, a bunch of thin black > yarn, going in to my body , actually saved my life. I FOUND > MATERIAL THAT WAS SUCKING BLACK FILAMENTS OUT OF ME! I could see > how stream is going out , not in. I was holding my hand 2-3 > inches from it and that's why I > could see and discover the CURE! I would never find out, > what this material can do , if I would just touch or hold it ( > I would not be able to see the stream ) and I would not > survive. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi, I see your are frustrated and I just wanted to put in what has worked for me. Number one is complete avoidance where I have that option: After identifying that EMFs were causing me grief I set out to identify and the areas I felt horrible in and the areas that didn't cause me any problems. There are many similar areas documented on EMFWATCH on youtube. I got rid of all wireless devices : cordless phone, cell phone, wifi, smart meter, iPad, laptop, etc.. and that was more than half the cure. I was my first worst enemy when it came to exposing myself to these toxic emissions Then I took steps to avoid places that had wifi, ( starbucks anyone?) cell towers, cell antennas, people utilizing wirelss devices, and asked those around me not use their cell phones and wireless devices around me and to keep them on airplane mode. This helped even more.
I have found yeast overgrowth throught the body to be an issue associated with EHS also, so implementing a diet as devoid of the foods that the body recognizes or breaks down into sugars has also helped greatly. ( yeasts and fungi thrive on sugars) For the most part, whatever the body does not break down into amino acids ( protiens) It breaks down into sugars (starch( potatoes, carrots, beets, etc...), grains and grian products,[ wheat, rice, oats, bulgur, quinoa, etc....) legumes ( lentils, beans, peanuts, etc...) , This in conjunction with taking rounds of Candex to help neutralize what is left in your system till it even out at the optimal levels. --- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote: > > Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to > look thru. > > Love & blessings, > Elysia > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrey Filatov <fiastudio91@...> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <marc@...> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5 > > >  > I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response > was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me? > You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the > other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere? >  ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the > eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the > reason your message was not accepted? > THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE. > And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie. > Andre. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
How did you get rid of your smart meter???? you have no electricity??
--- On Fri, 8/31/12, schlumlum <[hidden email]> wrote: From: schlumlum <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: EHS part 5 PLEASE COMMUNICATE CONSTRUCTIVELY :) To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:42 AM Hi, I see your are frustrated and I just wanted to put in what has worked for me. Number one is complete avoidance where I have that option: After identifying that EMFs were causing me grief I set out to identify and the areas I felt horrible in and the areas that didn't cause me any problems. There are many similar areas documented on EMFWATCH on youtube. I got rid of all wireless devices : cordless phone, cell phone, wifi, smart meter, iPad, laptop, etc.. and that was more than half the cure. I was my first worst enemy when it came to exposing myself to these toxic emissions Then I took steps to avoid places that had wifi, ( starbucks anyone?) cell towers, cell antennas, people utilizing wirelss devices, and asked those around me not use their cell phones and wireless devices around me and to keep them on airplane mode. This helped even more. I have found yeast overgrowth throught the body to be an issue associated with EHS also, so implementing a diet as devoid of the foods that the body recognizes or breaks down into sugars has also helped greatly. ( yeasts and fungi thrive on sugars) For the most part, whatever the body does not break down into amino acids ( protiens) It breaks down into sugars (starch( potatoes, carrots, beets, etc...), grains and grian products,[ wheat, rice, oats, bulgur, quinoa, etc....) legumes ( lentils, beans, peanuts, etc...) , This in conjunction with taking rounds of Candex to help neutralize what is left in your system till it even out at the optimal levels. --- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote: > > Look, I'm on WiFi right now and am exhausted w/ these arguments. It's been months since I've been able to chekc my e-mail and I'm irritated to see another thread that I have to sift through only to find out it was about nothing. Andre, I would suggest posting your recipe if you think it will help people, stick in a disclaimer, and advise the proper precautions. The bottom line is that this group is for helping each other, not arguing or dangling potential solutions just out of peoples' reach. We EHSers are desperate, tired and traumatized people. Please take that into account when making sweeping claims like: a pendant or a supplement or a neural retraining program or what-have-you, completely cured you of EHS and is likely to cure everyone else. This isn't Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. For many of us, it's more like a palliative care ward, and we are hanging by a thread. Please no one respond to this; I don't want to give ppl. more superfluous stuff to > look thru. > > Love & blessings, > Elysia > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrey Filatov <fiastudio91@...> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; Marc Martin <marc@...> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS part 5 > > >  > I meant REAL response. I was asking  You for advice but Your response > was--- "Thanks for that... did you intend to just send this to me? > You could also send this to my eSens discussion groupon YahooGroups for others to read (maybe when the > other parts are complete?).  Or perhaps this is postedon a website/blog somewhere? >  ---Well, I don't have Skype... :-)Before sending a message to the > eSens group you must first subscribe to the group. Maybe that is the > reason your message was not accepted? > THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T CALL IT RESPONSE. > And Thank You for trying to catch me on a lie. > Andre. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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