Re: Do you feel wireless?

>
> Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol.
>
> He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the  
> clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours.
>
> You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It  
> takes a a while  get it out.
>
> http://www.noamalgam.com/
>
>
> There are  yahoo groups of those w experience to guide
> you
>
>  frequent-dose-chelation
>
>
>
> Or adult chelation group
>
> Kathy
>
>
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>
> had my  fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get  
> really
>
> sick. Like I'm  going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no  
> reaction. I'm
>
> drinking ionized  water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think  
> I am
>
> detoxing with it. I'm  feeling sickly all the time. She said it  
> helped her friend
>
> that has  fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3  
> months of
>
> drinking it. I  had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It  
> didn't
>
> show up any  abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I  
> still think
>
> I'm toxic.  Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel
>
> means more to me  then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are  
> choppy.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.
> > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is
> > important, even putting filter on the shower head.
>
> Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.
> Saying that we are "too acidic" is meaningless without referencing which
> part of the body you are talking about.  For example, the blood
> CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)
> range.  Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,
> otherwise you won't digest your food properly.  I'd think that
> drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although
> it'd be okay on an empty stomach).
>
> Marc
>

>
> Marc,
>
> Why are most pushing lowering PH? I read somewhere the body needs to be acidic side to detox?
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> > Your body is ideally 7.4 pH. And that's also when the body will detox
> > best.
>
> You cannot assign a single pH value to the entire body.  The body
> has different pH's throughout.  The ideal pH in one part
> of the body is different than it is in another part of the body.
>
> I guess when talking about pH, people should stick to something
> easily measurable and potentially meaningful, like early morning
> salivary pH.  I think urine pH is largely useless, as it varies
> depending on what you've been eating the day before.
>
> Marc
>

>
> > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.
> > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is
> > important, even putting filter on the shower head.
>
> Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.
> Saying that we are "too acidic" is meaningless without referencing which
> part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood
> CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)
> range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,
> otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that
> drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although
> it'd be okay on an empty stomach).
>
> Marc
>

>
> Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol.
>
> He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the
> clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours.
>
> You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It
> takes a a while get it out.
>
> http://www.noamalgam.com/
>
>
> There are yahoo groups of those w experience to guide
> you
>
> frequent-dose-chelation
>
>
>
> Or adult chelation group
>
> Kathy
>
>
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>
> had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get
> really
>
> sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no
> reaction. I'm
>
> drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think
> I am
>
> detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it
> helped her friend
>
> that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3
> months of
>
> drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It
> didn't
>
> show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I
> still think
>
> I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel
>
> means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are
> choppy.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> Interesting; I have osteoporosis. Have to read up. Loni
>
> --- On Fri, 2/18/11, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Why then am I so sick?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 1:38 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I think the pH-discussion is extremely interesting, and yes, definitely complicated! Well anything that is holistic is easy to comprehend imo!
>
> There's a difference between the pH of water you drink and the effect on your body, raising your pH-value is imo more complicated than consuming alkaline water/food.
>
> Your body will do anything to make sure blood is always in perfect pH-range indeed, but if it is too acidic due to toxins for instance it does rob minerals from your bones and/or organs, to make it more alkaline... That may cause degenerative bones (= osteoporosis = low pH/voltage) or degenerative organs (= low pH/voltage).
>
> Dr Jerry Tennant has got a very good insight on pH/voltage. And he links that with every aspect of health/illness.
>
> Imo his theory/book is the best out there to give you insight on health.
>
> I'm not a fan of his biomodulator-therapy by the way.
>
> I've posted here on Tennant already quite a lot, a couple of months ago.
>
> Anybody who wants to read more about this read my older posts, buy his book or go to his website for a short intro and click on integrative medicine:
> www.tennantinstitute.com
>
> Tennant says that chronic sickness (in any way) is always accompanied with globally too low pH/acidic (= too little voltage). Tennant measures that by a voltmeter on different energy points (quite similar to the chakra points) on the body, he takes the average of these points.
>
> That's why it is so difficult to get better if you're chronically ill, your body hasn't get enough voltage/energy/chi to get the things done. In that case he recommends to work slowly on raising body voltage (directly and indirectly). This also explains why a lot of people can't detox as fast as healthy people, or why they (me included!) have so many side effects from every therapy. Side effects that are often worse than the cure...
>
> Tennant also checks pH/voltage locally. You can have local areas of inflammation (= alkaline = too much voltage) and body parts that are degenerating (= too acidic = too little voltage).
>
> Pain is always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally. Health problems are always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally or in the entire body...
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >
> > > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.
> > > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is
> > > important, even putting filter on the shower head.
> >
> > Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.
> > Saying that we are "too acidic" is meaningless without referencing which
> > part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood
> > CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)
> > range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,
> > otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that
> > drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although
> > it'd be okay on an empty stomach).
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> Interesting; I have osteoporosis. Have to read up. Loni
>
> --- On Fri, 2/18/11, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Why then am I so sick?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 1:38 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I think the pH-discussion is extremely interesting, and yes, definitely complicated! Well anything that is holistic is easy to comprehend imo!
>
> There's a difference between the pH of water you drink and the effect on your body, raising your pH-value is imo more complicated than consuming alkaline water/food.
>
> Your body will do anything to make sure blood is always in perfect pH-range indeed, but if it is too acidic due to toxins for instance it does rob minerals from your bones and/or organs, to make it more alkaline... That may cause degenerative bones (= osteoporosis = low pH/voltage) or degenerative organs (= low pH/voltage).
>
> Dr Jerry Tennant has got a very good insight on pH/voltage. And he links that with every aspect of health/illness.
>
> Imo his theory/book is the best out there to give you insight on health.
>
> I'm not a fan of his biomodulator-therapy by the way.
>
> I've posted here on Tennant already quite a lot, a couple of months ago.
>
> Anybody who wants to read more about this read my older posts, buy his book or go to his website for a short intro and click on integrative medicine:
> www.tennantinstitute.com
>
> Tennant says that chronic sickness (in any way) is always accompanied with globally too low pH/acidic (= too little voltage). Tennant measures that by a voltmeter on different energy points (quite similar to the chakra points) on the body, he takes the average of these points.
>
> That's why it is so difficult to get better if you're chronically ill, your body hasn't get enough voltage/energy/chi to get the things done. In that case he recommends to work slowly on raising body voltage (directly and indirectly). This also explains why a lot of people can't detox as fast as healthy people, or why they (me included!) have so many side effects from every therapy. Side effects that are often worse than the cure...
>
> Tennant also checks pH/voltage locally. You can have local areas of inflammation (= alkaline = too much voltage) and body parts that are degenerating (= too acidic = too little voltage).
>
> Pain is always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally. Health problems are always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally or in the entire body...
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >
> > > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.
> > > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is
> > > important, even putting filter on the shower head.
> >
> > Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.
> > Saying that we are "too acidic" is meaningless without referencing which
> > part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood
> > CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)
> > range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,
> > otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that
> > drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although
> > it'd be okay on an empty stomach).
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> I have the suppliment. Why eye drops for knees instead of of capsule form?
>
> --- On Fri, 2/18/11, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Why then am I so sick?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 7:29 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> What seems to help my painful knees recently is Hyalorunic Eyedrops...
>
> http://www.pingueculae.com/index.php/eye-drops/134-hyaluronic-eye-drops-supplements
>
> Supplementing with Ca + Mg + Vit. K1 + Vit. K2 + Vit. D3 + Glucosamin is the most commonly recommended supplement therapy for osteoporosis I think.
>
> But that's in theory and imo with every supplement you take you can get side effects, it's always more complicated!
>
> Taking Ca supplements is highly alkalizing, as Tennant recommends for all chronically sick people (low pH/voltage/acidic), although too much Ca will have side effects probably for nerves/... as somebody mentioned here today.
>
> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting; I have osteoporosis. Have to read up. Loni
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/18/11, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Why then am I so sick?
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 1:38 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the pH-discussion is extremely interesting, and yes, definitely complicated! Well anything that is holistic is easy to comprehend imo!
> >
> > There's a difference between the pH of water you drink and the effect on your body, raising your pH-value is imo more complicated than consuming alkaline water/food.
> >
> > Your body will do anything to make sure blood is always in perfect pH-range indeed, but if it is too acidic due to toxins for instance it does rob minerals from your bones and/or organs, to make it more alkaline... That may cause degenerative bones (= osteoporosis = low pH/voltage) or degenerative organs (= low pH/voltage).
> >
> > Dr Jerry Tennant has got a very good insight on pH/voltage. And he links that with every aspect of health/illness.
> >
> > Imo his theory/book is the best out there to give you insight on health.
> >
> > I'm not a fan of his biomodulator-therapy by the way.
> >
> > I've posted here on Tennant already quite a lot, a couple of months ago.
> >
> > Anybody who wants to read more about this read my older posts, buy his book or go to his website for a short intro and click on integrative medicine:
> > www.tennantinstitute.com
> >
> > Tennant says that chronic sickness (in any way) is always accompanied with globally too low pH/acidic (= too little voltage). Tennant measures that by a voltmeter on different energy points (quite similar to the chakra points) on the body, he takes the average of these points.
> >
> > That's why it is so difficult to get better if you're chronically ill, your body hasn't get enough voltage/energy/chi to get the things done. In that case he recommends to work slowly on raising body voltage (directly and indirectly). This also explains why a lot of people can't detox as fast as healthy people, or why they (me included!) have so many side effects from every therapy. Side effects that are often worse than the cure...
> >
> > Tennant also checks pH/voltage locally. You can have local areas of inflammation (= alkaline = too much voltage) and body parts that are degenerating (= too acidic = too little voltage).
> >
> > Pain is always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally. Health problems are always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally or in the entire body...
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us.
> > > > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is
> > > > important, even putting filter on the shower head.
> > >
> > > Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial.
> > > Saying that we are "too acidic" is meaningless without referencing which
> > > part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood
> > > CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline)
> > > range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion,
> > > otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that
> > > drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although
> > > it'd be okay on an empty stomach).
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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>      
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> So Andrew how do you heal the blood brain barrier? I react to ALA  
> but need to detox mercury. Problem is I can't really detox it after  
> it is mobilized. catch 22.  Loni
>
> -- On Fri, 2/18/11, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Why then am I so sick?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 12:55 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think the Cutler protocol is too much for ES people. I think a much
> lower dose is better so the metals and crap isn't moved around the
> body from organ to organ, stomach to brain.
> Rebuilding the stomach lining and blood brain barrier should be first
> before any chelation.
> Research what supports the liver getting its own glutamine production
> up as well as supplementing with glutamine powder first.
> There are libraries of information on this and I am in overwhelm with
> my own story and research into this and don't have a definitive answer
> yet but know that chelation is not the best thing to do first when  
> sick.
> Andrew
>
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:26 AM, KathyB wrote:
>
>>
>> Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol.
>>
>> He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the
>> clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours.
>>
>> You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It
>> takes a a while get it out.
>>
>> http://www.noamalgam.com/
>>
>>
>> There are yahoo groups of those w experience to guide
>> you
>>
>> frequent-dose-chelation
>>
>>
>>
>> Or adult chelation group
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>>
>> [hidden email] writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get
>> really
>>
>> sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no
>> reaction. I'm
>>
>> drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think
>> I am
>>
>> detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it
>> helped her friend
>>
>> that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3
>> months of
>>
>> drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It
>> didn't
>>
>> show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I
>> still think
>>
>> I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel
>>
>> means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are
>> choppy.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> So Andrew how do you heal the blood brain barrier? I react to ALA
> but need to detox mercury. Problem is I can't really detox it after
> it is mobilized. catch 22. Loni
>
> -- On Fri, 2/18/11, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Why then am I so sick?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 12:55 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think the Cutler protocol is too much for ES people. I think a much
> lower dose is better so the metals and crap isn't moved around the
> body from organ to organ, stomach to brain.
> Rebuilding the stomach lining and blood brain barrier should be first
> before any chelation.
> Research what supports the liver getting its own glutamine production
> up as well as supplementing with glutamine powder first.
> There are libraries of information on this and I am in overwhelm with
> my own story and research into this and don't have a definitive answer
> yet but know that chelation is not the best thing to do first when
> sick.
> Andrew
>
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:26 AM, KathyB wrote:
>
>>
>> Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol.
>>
>> He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the
>> clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours.
>>
>> You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It
>> takes a a while get it out.
>>
>> http://www.noamalgam.com/
>>
>>
>> There are yahoo groups of those w experience to guide
>> you
>>
>> frequent-dose-chelation
>>
>>
>>
>> Or adult chelation group
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>>
>> [hidden email] writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get
>> really
>>
>> sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no
>> reaction. I'm
>>
>> drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think
>> I am
>>
>> detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it
>> helped her friend
>>
>> that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3
>> months of
>>
>> drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It
>> didn't
>>
>> show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I
>> still think
>>
>> I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel
>>
>> means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are
>> choppy.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
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> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Do you feel wireless?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:51 AM
> Last week I went to a seminar put on
> by Dr. Adiel Tel-Oren from Israel on EMF.  He said that
> only 1% of the 3 to 8 % who have e.s. have problems with
> wireless. I know I have problems with that. Do you?
>
> Maureen
>
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