From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]>
Yes - BIG difference! Because they (2 root canaled teeth) were right under my nose and had completely cavitated that part of my face! The bacteria in the root canal ATE the bone under my nose.! I had 17 amalgams and 2nickel crowns replaced and was feeling better... then those root canal teeth began to ache no matter how much I detoxed or ate juiced or blended foods. SoI had them yanked (dentist was VERY reluctant to do it -- until said I was going home and get my pliers and do it myself... I flat HAD ENOUGH of those damn things causing me problems! So he pulled those 2 front teeth, fitted me with a "'flipper" (which I'm still wearing 2 years later) because the $$$ is all gone to do any more (perhaps soon!). Anyhow... the majority of my ES is now a shady memory and shall REMAIN so... I've still got too much FUN LIVING to enjoy! And helping others get better without going thru all the trials & tribulations I suffered thru...! Jan Jenson The WELLth Coach Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:32:07 -0000 From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> Subject: Root canals We visited a naturopathic dentist yesterday to discuss mercury amalgam removal for me, and root canal issues for my husband. The link between mercury and ES has been discussed at great length in this group, but I haven't seen talk about the link between root canals and ES. Does anyone in the group hav one or more root canals? If you have had a root canal removed, have you noticed any improvement in your symptoms (either fatigue, ES, or other sensitivities)? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]>
www.cavitat.com You can locate CAVITAT machines by state Creator Robert Jones & his son Bob do nice work and are VERY concerned about helping others get well. I havea friendnearby who underwent 2very extensive cavitation surgeries recently... because she almost died from an infected cavitation (they ALL are infected in my opinion) even mine! I still have 2 lower cavitations to deal with... Jan Jenson Root canals need to be fixed apparently. Anything that causes a gum infection or toxicitiy is a problem- mainly root canals, but also residue from improperly pulled teeth. There is a machine that uses ultrasound to scan the gum region for any of these dead pockets of tissue called NICOs. The machine is called a CAVITAT and you have to search to find them last I checked. Apparently an XRAY is not good enough, however a skilled dentist, probably also expensive, should be able to spot problems using technique. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Tricky question - the Cavitat machines have a good pedigree, but how suitable are they for people with ES? We considered giving Sue a Cavitat scan, but in view of our previous problems with the Oberon machine, we consulted first with the dentist. He explained that the Cavitat used ultrasound but this is generated by placing a vibrating probe against the jawbone for several minutes. In view of Sue's tinnitus symptoms and past history, he didn't feel confident that it could be guaranteed not to give her further problems. Instead he did some quick exploratory surgery and a biopsy to confirm the presence of a cavitation.
Has anyone else in the group tried a Cavitat scan, and was there any alteration in ES as a result? Similarly for X-rays (a panoramic X-ray is another possible method of looking for jawbone necrosis). We know someone whose ES was triggered by a CAT scan, but that is of course a completely different process. Regards, Ian and Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Jenson To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Digest Number 528 From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]> www.cavitat.com You can locate CAVITAT machines by state Creator Robert Jones & his son Bob do nice work and are VERY concerned about helping others get well. I havea friendnearby who underwent 2very extensive cavitation surgeries recently... because she almost died from an infected cavitation (they ALL are infected in my opinion) even mine! I still have 2 lower cavitations to deal with... Jan Jenson Root canals need to be fixed apparently. Anything that causes a gum infection or toxicitiy is a problem- mainly root canals, but also residue from improperly pulled teeth. There is a machine that uses ultrasound to scan the gum region for any of these dead pockets of tissue called NICOs. The machine is called a CAVITAT and you have to search to find them last I checked. Apparently an XRAY is not good enough, however a skilled dentist, probably also expensive, should be able to spot problems using technique. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "eSens" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Tricky question - the Cavitat machines have a good pedigree, but how suitable are they for people with ES? We considered giving Sue a Cavitat scan, but in view of our previous problems with the Oberon machine, we consulted first with the dentist. He explained that the Cavitat used ultrasound but this is generated by placing a vibrating probe against the jawbone for several minutes. In view of Sue's tinnitus symptoms and past history, he didn't feel confident that it could be guaranteed not to give her further problems. Instead he did some quick exploratory surgery and a biopsy to confirm the presence of a cavitation.
Has anyone else in the group tried a Cavitat scan, and was there any alteration in ES as a result? Similarly for X-rays (a panoramic X-ray is another possible method of looking for jawbone necrosis). We know someone whose ES was triggered by a CAT scan, but that is of course a completely different process. Regards, Ian and Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Jenson To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Digest Number 528 From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]> www.cavitat.com You can locate CAVITAT machines by state Creator Robert Jones & his son Bob do nice work and are VERY concerned about helping others get well. I havea friendnearby who underwent 2very extensive cavitation surgeries recently... because she almost died from an infected cavitation (they ALL are infected in my opinion) even mine! I still have 2 lower cavitations to deal with... Jan Jenson Root canals need to be fixed apparently. Anything that causes a gum infection or toxicitiy is a problem- mainly root canals, but also residue from improperly pulled teeth. There is a machine that uses ultrasound to scan the gum region for any of these dead pockets of tissue called NICOs. The machine is called a CAVITAT and you have to search to find them last I checked. Apparently an XRAY is not good enough, however a skilled dentist, probably also expensive, should be able to spot problems using technique. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "eSens" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yeah, broken front teeth, I have that too. And I'd say that the
prothesis I have are like a nail under the foot. I know what you mean, to remove them by yourself. This is the next thing I want to solve, now that I got rid of my amalgams. I suspect also that the long metal roots nailed in the roots of the teeth could be like antennas. jean. --- In [hidden email], Jan Jenson <vizual@a...> wrote: > > From: Jan Jenson <vizual@a...> > > Yes - BIG difference! > Because they (2 root canaled teeth) were right under my nose and had > completely > cavitated that part of my face! > The bacteria in the root canal ATE the bone under my nose.! > > I had 17 amalgams and 2nickel crowns replaced > and was feeling better... then those root canal teeth began to ache > no matter how much I detoxed or ate juiced or blended foods. > SoI had them yanked (dentist was VERY reluctant to do it -- until > was > going home and get my pliers and do it myself... I flat HAD ENOUGH of those > damn > things causing me problems! So he pulled those 2 front teeth, fitted me > with > a "'flipper" (which I'm still wearing 2 years later) because the $$$ is all > gone to do any more > (perhaps soon!). > Anyhow... the majority of my ES is now a shady memory and shall REMAIN so... > I've still got too much FUN LIVING to enjoy! > > And helping others get better without going thru all the trials & > tribulations I suffered thru...! > > Jan Jenson > The WELLth Coach > |
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Hello Cara,
sorry to spend some time replying to your concern about tinittus and cavitats, while everyone has moved on. Yes, I can see why you would be concerned about it aggravating that when doing a full mouth. It may just be a case of trial and error on two teeth to start out with to check the risk. We have all concentrated on mercury poisoning in the mouth. However there is good opinion now that concommitant candida might be more relevant, and that appears to live in bad death roots, simultaneously putrifying mercury. Candida is a biofilm infection dentally. A nasty gunge coating the gum and interacting with electric currents in the mouth. I think possibly EMR may interac with this biofilm. We thought candida lived in the intestines, but now the focus is also on the gums. Biofilm gunge infections in the bone are the nastiest: the antibiotic drugs can't fight through the coating to kill them off. The only solution is removal. In advanced cases this is a serious consideration. Possibly tinnitus may be affected either way by full surgery with cavitat. Biofilm infections may have general relation to EMR, including Helicobacter Pylori reported by www.amak.se as a risk. Additionally, I think people will be pretty rapped wuth the following! Iris Atzmon reports: that the Spanish High Court >Subject: First sentence at SPAIN: "people has the RIGHT to have ZERO >levels of emr/emf !! >READ THIS!! >http://www.ecologistasenaccion.org/article.php3?id_article=3122 >Omega in English: http://tinyurl.com/bn2tx >INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!! A sentence of the high court (it has no-legal- >discusion possible by any court) says: >The level of magnetics fields IN THE HOUSE of persons who have a >electro-power-transformer near their houses.... HAVE TO BE "ZERO". Goto http://omega.twoday.net/stories/1073418/ Good luck, Rowan C --- In [hidden email], Jan Jenson <vizual@a...> wrote: > > From: Jan Jenson <vizual@a...> > > > www.cavitat.com > You can locate CAVITAT machines by state > Creator Robert Jones & his son Bob do nice work and are VERY concerned > about helping others get well. > I havea friendnearby who underwent 2very extensive cavitation surgeries > recently... because she almost died from an infected cavitation > (they ALL are infected in my opinion) > even mine! I still have 2 lower cavitations to deal with... > > Jan Jenson > > > Root canals need to be fixed apparently. Anything that > causes a gum infection or toxicitiy is a problem- mainly > root canals, but also residue from improperly pulled teeth. > There is a machine that uses ultrasound to scan the gum > region for any of these dead pockets of tissue called > NICOs. The machine is called a CAVITAT and you have to > search to find them last I checked. Apparently an XRAY is > not good enough, however a skilled dentist, probably also > expensive, should be able to spot problems using technique. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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