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Re: Dental Materials

SArjuna
Regarding dental materials it is not enough just to use materials   you are
not allergic to.   You may not be allergic to metals, but they all serve as
receiving antennae.   Metal oxides used as colorants must also be avoided.  
 
Metals block energy flow through the energy meridians as well.
You can Google "dental meridians" to see charts of which teeth are
associated with which organs, etc.
Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

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PUK
i HAVE JUST OPTED FOR A ZIRCONIA CROWN AT COST OF £550, I have also many  
white glass ionomer fillings and these concern me as I have lost weight since
 the event that lead to their installation, primarily on my face.
 
Paul UK
 
 
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Regarding dental materials it is not enough just to use materials you are  
not allergic to. You may not be allergic to metals, but they all serve as  
receiving antennae. Metal oxides used as colorants must also be avoided.  

Metals block energy flow through the energy meridians as well.
You  can Google "dental meridians" to see charts of which teeth are
associated  with which organs, etc.
Shivani  Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

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Re: Dental Materials

steve
I think zirconium is good, not reactive as far as I know
Steve

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> Shivani  Arjuna
> www.LifeEnergies.com
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Re: Dental Materials

SArjuna
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 I had a zirconium crown..  Had it removed.  (Dr. Cook went through 6 diamond drills removing it.  And a lot of sweat!)  There were 2 tiny titanium pins in a filling inside that crown, so I can't say how much of my symptoms had been caused by the zirconium how much by the pins, but major symptoms disappeared overnight.  I think that either the pins or the zirconium would have been enough to cause symptoms.
   I'm not familiar with the glass ionomer you mention, Paul.  i suggest you call Dr. Cook's office and talk either with him or his very savvy receptionist Amy, re dental materials.   Doug Cook, Suring, Wisconsin.
   Shivani Arjuna
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SArjuna
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Zirconium is a hard, lustrous, grayish-white METAL.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com


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Re: Dental Materials

steve

I thought it was non conductive?

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Re: Dental Materials

Marc Martin
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> I thought it was non conductive?

I've never had any problems with zirconia dental work...

Titanium, on the other hand, causes me problems even
when it's just in my pants pocket...

Marc
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PUK
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From what I have learnt zirconia is a form of crystal based materiel - no  
metal content at all ? nevertheless having anything in your mouth that
nature  did not put there for the intention of chewing is a bad deal -
 
puk
 
 
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C.a.b. Johnson
Well, well, well,

With all this talk of Dental Materials, I am in a quandry. I have had my crowns made of porcelain and tested for compatability, and have had no issues with them. But a couple gold crowns I had were giving me horrible antenna effect and were replaced with porcelain. 

But, I refuse to get root canals, so I have had two on upper right, and two on lower left pulled instead.  4 very essential teeth for chewing.

But, you know, you have to chew your food to survive.  People with Celiac Disease tend to have problems with teeth.  Also, RH exposure will contribute to teeth degeneration by activating the bacteria hiding in root canals and in the mouth in general.  Having only one tooth left on my lower left to chew on, I have tried putting my food in the blender but that is not always possible. 

Only options left are a partial, which I have tried and it is horrible due to the big plate covering the upper roof of the mouth, making it difficult to taste and to masticate the food.  Plus, it kinda hurts to have it in.  Every time I bite down on fodd it is painful rubbing against my gum.

Other option, implants.  Titanium implants are out, due to the fact that I do not want a metal post in my mouth, knowing how I reaacted to the gold.  The best they can do is Zirconium implants which they say are superior to Titanium, because they are not supposed to be conductive and the jaw readily bonds to it.  How true that is I do not know.  That is what my dentist told me.

Last option, get all the teeth pulled and get dentures, but then you are back to the same problem with the huge plate covering the upper roof of the mouth, making it very unpleasant and difficult to masticate, taste and swallow food.  Not to mention that denture creams recently came under fire for giving people Zinc toxicity.

To avoid the top plate on the roof of the mouth with dentrues, they are now anchoring dentures in the jaw with 4 implant pins, which could be zirconium.

I don't know what to do.  Pull all of my teeth and get dentures or get implants.  I already have one partial for the right, so making a partial for the left is a problem to anchor two partials in.  Implants really are the best solution, except I don't know if I would tolerate the pin.  What to do.  Back to the blender?

Anybody have dentures or implants to report on?  Any suggestions?


C. Johnson
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      From what I have learnt zirconia is a form of crystal based materiel - no  

metal content at all ? nevertheless having anything in your mouth that

nature  did not put there for the intention of chewing is a bad deal -

 

puk

 

 

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Re: Dental Materials

evie15422
Hi, Cab,

It is not a great alternative, but you could possibly use "splints".  Orthodontists can make them to fit where you have no teeth.  This oral appliance would fit over top of all your teeth and make chewing possible for you.  I had to use these in the early 90s when I had bi-lateral tm joint arthroscopy.  The only negative is the toxic taste while these are being made.  I am not so sure the material is totally non-toxic, as the ortho says it is.  But it did not make me ill later and I had MCS even then.

I also was dxed with celiac sprue, Cab!  I could not tolerate oats either, till just last month I tried some Bob's Red Mill made in a dedicated facility and grown on dedicated land, with dedicated equipment.....  The whole deal.  I seem to tolerate it!  I truly didn't think I would.  I have had it about 5 times now.  I still don't do well with millet, but it is not grown and harvested on dedicated land, etc.  

Good luck with your "gnawing" decisions,   ;)

Diane



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Well, well, well,

With all this talk of Dental Materials, I am in a quandry. I have had my crowns made of porcelain and tested for compatability, and have had no issues with them. But a couple gold crowns I had were giving me horrible antenna effect and were replaced with porcelain. 

But, I refuse to get root canals, so I have had two on upper right, and two on lower left pulled instead.  4 very essential teeth for chewing.

But, you know, you have to chew your food to survive.  People with Celiac Disease tend to have problems with teeth.  Also, RH exposure will contribute to teeth degeneration by activating the bacteria hiding in root canals and in the mouth in general.  Having only one tooth left on my lower left to chew on, I have tried putting my food in the blender but that is not always possible. 

Only options left are a partial, which I have tried and it is horrible due to the big plate covering the upper roof of the mouth, making it difficult to taste and to masticate the food.  Plus, it kinda hurts to have it in.  Every time I bite down on fodd it is painful rubbing against my gum.

Other option, implants.  Titanium implants are out, due to the fact that I do not want a metal post in my mouth, knowing how I reaacted to the gold.  The best they can do is Zirconium implants which they say are superior to Titanium, because they are not supposed to be conductive and the jaw readily bonds to it.  How true that is I do not know.  That is what my dentist told me.

Last option, get all the teeth pulled and get dentures, but then you are back to the same problem with the huge plate covering the upper roof of the mouth, making it very unpleasant and difficult to masticate, taste and swallow food.  Not to mention that denture creams recently came under fire for giving people Zinc toxicity.

To avoid the top plate on the roof of the mouth with dentrues, they are now anchoring dentures in the jaw with 4 implant pins, which could be zirconium.

I don't know what to do.  Pull all of my teeth and get dentures or get implants.  I already have one partial for the right, so making a partial for the left is a problem to anchor two partials in.  Implants really are the best solution, except I don't know if I would tolerate the pin.  What to do.  Back to the blender?

Anybody have dentures or implants to report on?  Any suggestions?


C. Johnson
Superdrove







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      From what I have learnt zirconia is a form of crystal based materiel - no 

metal content at all ? nevertheless having anything in your mouth that

nature  did not put there for the intention of chewing is a bad deal -



puk





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I thought it was non conductive?



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Re: Dental Materials

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If there is a way to work out keeping your teeth I would. I had a bridge that looked nice, but too many surrounding teeth didn't make it.

Has the dentist adjusted the partial  some? 

I had to get dentures due to too many fillings.  It was hard for me to get used to them. Sleeping in them was the trick that helped get past the gag issue.  If you need the dentist  can  cit bacl the upper plate  a bit to ease the feeling of it.

Started having issues w the materials due to MCS. I now soak them in salt & hydrogen peroxide water.

There is no perfect answer. Implants would be it,  if I could handle the metal. But wouldn't the metal heat up which could possibly  cause health issues in the jaw. 

I wish you the best in this decision.

Kathy

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With all this talk of Dental Materials, I am in a quandry.

Only options left are a partial, which I have tried and it is horrible due to the big plate covering the upper roof of the mouth, making it difficult to taste and to masticate the food.  Plus, it kinda hurts to have it in.  Every time I bite down on fodd it is painful rubbing against my gum.



Other option, implants.  Titanium implants are out, due to the fact that I do not want a metal post in my mouth, knowing how I reaacted to the gold.  The best they can do is Zirconium implants which they say are superior to Titanium, because they are not supposed to be conductive and the jaw readily bonds to it.  How true that is I do not know.  That is what my dentist told me.



Last option, get all the teeth pulled and get dentures, but then you are back to the same problem with the huge plate covering the upper roof of the mouth, making it very unpleasant and difficult to masticate, taste and swallow food.  Not to mention that denture creams recently came under fire for giving people Zinc toxicity.



To avoid the top plate on the roof of the mouth with dentrues, they are now anchoring dentures in the jaw with 4 implant pins, which could be zirconium.



I don't know what to do.  Pull all of my teeth and get dentures or get implants.  I already have one partial for the right, so making a partial for the left is a problem to anchor two partials in.  Implants really are the best solution, except I don't know if I would tolerate the pin.  What to do.  Back to the blender?



Anybody have dentures or implants to report on?  Any suggestions?



C. Johnson

Superdrove



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From what I have learnt zirconia is a form of crystal based materiel - no  



metal content at all ? nevertheless having anything in your mouth that



nature  did not put there for the intention of chewing is a bad deal -



puk



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I thought it was non conductive?



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