> I have been researching a protocol by Dr. Andrew Cutler, which is the
> protocol that thousands of kids with Autism are using for mercury detox. >On the mercury discussion group I'm on, some folks have had horrible >results with Cutler's protocol. I never tried it myself, because >I was tested energetically as having a bad reaction to DMSA, and >also because I don't like any protocol that requires me to take >a supplement at 3 in the morning. :-) >Also, I've heard complaints that Andy doesn't want to even hear about >people who do badly on his protocol, or alternative protocols which >work just as well, so it sounds like he's a bit close-minded. I don't necessarily want to defend Andy's protocol since I haven't completed it myself. But think I should present another viewpoint so all angles about his protocol are mentioned, so people aren't steered away from a potentially good mercury detox solution. I have noticed some people have poor results when they attempt to use Andy's protocol, due to its complexity. They jump the gun and begin mercury detox cycles too quickly, before properly preparing their body. One thing to realize is that many people will get horrible results no matter which way they mercury detox, depending on their own constitution. That is what makes this process of mercury detox so difficult, and why people are searching all over the planet for a better detox method. I have seen allot of people on Yahoo Groups who are getting great results from his method. I think the complexity of the protocol leaves room for error, since there is allot of lab work and naturopathic work that *could* be done to better assess ones condition so there is better balance attained prior to the chelation cycles. When one begins his protocol, one has the option of starting in very small doses, which in itself could dictate their result. This is part of the design of his protocol is to use extremely small doses on children, and adjust according to their symptoms. Same applies to adults. I notice that Andy frowns on people who try to follow variations of his protocol, and this is to help people to realize that if they go too far off track, his protocol may have worse side effects than otherwise. After dealing with people daily on this issue of people not following the protocol properly, I would understand if he became frustrated with people that approach him on deviating from the protocol - it would become frustrating telling people over and over about the possible negative effects. Yes, one should proceed with caution and ensure they fully understand all the options before doing Andy's protocol. It is designed to be the most effective way to *quickly* remove mercury with least amount of symptoms. For many *quickly* detoxing mercury is a very poor solution. Glenn |
Great discussion. I have learned much from you guys in the past couple
days. Anybody know anything about the Q2 Energy Spa? It is another foot bath type of detox. http://healthandlight.com/q2_how_to.htm There is a healer here that thinks it is the greatest and seen great results. He advocates the sweating sauna therapy also. Andrew On Oct 29, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Glenn Coleman wrote: > >> I have been researching a protocol by Dr. Andrew Cutler, which is the >> protocol that thousands of kids with Autism are using for mercury >> detox. > >> On the mercury discussion group I'm on, some folks have had horrible >> results with Cutler's protocol. I never tried it myself, because >> I was tested energetically as having a bad reaction to DMSA, and >> also because I don't like any protocol that requires me to take >> a supplement at 3 in the morning. :-) > >> Also, I've heard complaints that Andy doesn't want to even hear about >> people who do badly on his protocol, or alternative protocols which >> work just as well, so it sounds like he's a bit close-minded. > > I don't necessarily want to defend Andy's protocol since I haven't > completed > it myself. But think I should present another viewpoint so all angles > about > his protocol are mentioned, so people aren't steered away from a > potentially > good mercury detox solution. > > I have noticed some people have poor results when they attempt to use > Andy's > protocol, due to its complexity. They jump the gun and begin mercury > detox > cycles too quickly, before properly preparing their body. > > One thing to realize is that many people will get horrible results no > matter > which way they mercury detox, depending on their own constitution. > That is > what makes this process of mercury detox so difficult, and why people > are > searching all over the planet for a better detox method. > > I have seen allot of people on Yahoo Groups who are getting great > results > from his method. > > I think the complexity of the protocol leaves room for error, since > there is > allot of lab work and naturopathic work that *could* be done to better > assess ones condition so there is better balance attained prior to the > chelation cycles. When one begins his protocol, one has the option of > starting in very small doses, which in itself could dictate their > result. > This is part of the design of his protocol is to use extremely small > doses > on children, and adjust according to their symptoms. Same applies to > adults. > > I notice that Andy frowns on people who try to follow variations of his > protocol, and this is to help people to realize that if they go too > far off > track, his protocol may have worse side effects than otherwise. After > dealing with people daily on this issue of people not following the > protocol > properly, I would understand if he became frustrated with people that > approach him on deviating from the protocol - it would become > frustrating > telling people over and over about the possible negative effects. > > Yes, one should proceed with caution and ensure they fully understand > all > the options before doing Andy's protocol. It is designed to be the > most > effective way to *quickly* remove mercury with least amount of > symptoms. > For many *quickly* detoxing mercury is a very poor solution. > > Glenn > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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> Great discussion. I have learned much from you guys in the past couple
> days. Anybody know anything about the Q2 Energy Spa? It is another foot > bath type of detox. > There is a healer here that thinks it is the greatest and seen great > results. He advocates the sweating sauna therapy also. I've tried both the foot baths and saunas, and while they are probably slightly beneficial, I would think that you'd have to do these hundreds of times to make significant progress (depending of course on how toxic you are). And I'm still not sure how effective these things are for getting toxins out of the brain. But I do continue to make an occasional visit to the steamroom and/or sauna, as they useful for stopping colds, relieving allergies, and warming up in the wintertime! As for the previous comment that some people would have trouble doing any type of mercury detox, I'd say that this is not necessarily true. From my experience, there are things which mostly mobilize toxins into the bloodstream, and there are things which mostly bind to toxins already in the bloodstream and safely get them out of your body. The most mercury toxic people usually cannot handle the mobilizers, but they often can handle the binders. For me, I'd say that the rejuvenizer pendant and the springlife polarizers are both mobilizers of toxins. Also, simple things like garlic are mobilizers. Binders are things like anti-oxidants (Vitamin C, or my favorite is Mega-H), bentonite, and activated charcoal. Of course, a clever person would find the right combination of the two types of things -- first mobilize, then bind! Marc |
Thanks for the examples of binders and mobilizers.
What is Mega-H? I bought some Sonne's #7 colloidial Bentonite. What is your advise about when and how to use it in the cleanse? I have already done the Oxy-Powder colon cleanse, acupuncture, energetic healings, QXCI, Gall Bladder flush 3x in the past 5 years (total of 100 stones the first two x's and the third, none) major probiotics, raw organic colostrum, raw organic butter, eating more grass fed meat and animal fats to rebuild nerves, taking Hepar Sulf, Thuja and 5 other Homeopathic remedies, Perelandra microbial products, and have the ParaGone and ParaZyme, etc. products next. I want to make sure my body is strong and cleaned out before I do something like the Q2 so I don't clog myself up. Charcoal is another product I wonder about. Will it adhere to the heavy metals and be a good binder? Lots of questions. Andrew On Oct 29, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Marc Martin wrote: > >> Great discussion. I have learned much from you guys in the past couple >> days. Anybody know anything about the Q2 Energy Spa? It is another >> foot >> bath type of detox. >> There is a healer here that thinks it is the greatest and seen great >> results. He advocates the sweating sauna therapy also. > > I've tried both the foot baths and saunas, and while they are probably > slightly beneficial, I would think that you'd have to do these hundreds > of times to make significant progress (depending of course on how toxic > you are). And I'm still not sure how effective these things are > for getting toxins out of the brain. > > But I do continue to make an occasional visit to the steamroom and/or > sauna, as they useful for stopping colds, relieving allergies, and > warming up in the wintertime! > > As for the previous comment that some people would have trouble > doing any type of mercury detox, I'd say that this is not necessarily > true. From my experience, there are things which mostly mobilize > toxins into the bloodstream, and there are things which mostly > bind to toxins already in the bloodstream and safely get them > out of your body. The most mercury toxic people usually cannot > handle the mobilizers, but they often can handle the binders. > For me, I'd say that the rejuvenizer pendant and the springlife > polarizers are both mobilizers of toxins. Also, simple things > like garlic are mobilizers. Binders are things like anti-oxidants > (Vitamin C, or my favorite is Mega-H), bentonite, and activated > charcoal. Of course, a clever person would find the right > combination of the two types of things -- first mobilize, then > bind! > > Marc > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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> Thanks for the examples of binders and mobilizers.
> What is Mega-H? It's an anti-oxidant -- one of the strongest available: http://www.phisciences.com/ I've taken this for years -- I've read that some consider this to be THE safest way to detoxify from mercury, but I don't really think it mobilizes any mercury, just neutralizes any mercury in your bloodstream. > I bought some Sonne's #7 colloidial Bentonite. What is your advise > about when and how to use it in the cleanse? When I used to take bentonite, I mixed it with psyllium and took it occasionally. But this was part of some cleanse package I was using (from Arise & Shine). > Charcoal is another product I wonder about. Will it adhere to the heavy > metals and be a good binder? It's supposed to -- there's a woman on a heavy metal mailing list who had adverse reactions to almost any chelator, but she felt a lot better when she took charcoal. Marc |
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I understand that Cholinesterase is inhibited by a lot of pesticides,
malathion, Parathion, Sarin gas, etc. AND EXPOSURE TO MICROWAVE RADIATION. I am not sure if the radiation triggers the toxins already in the system or if the EMR does it on its own. Has any one actually bought any Cholinesterase enzymes and taking them directly? Andrew PS. I did research on one of the FLUZONE Flu shot ingredients by Aventis called Triton X-100. http://www.prozyme.com/msds/msds-triton-x-100.html (Describing a Union Carbine product called Prozyme that contains 15% Triton X-100) Hazardous Ingredients: We are unaware of any hazards for this product other than those associated with the surfactant Triton X-100 The following MSDS information pertains to Triton X-100, CAS# 9036-19-5. Synonyms: Alkylaryl Polyether Alcohol, Octyl Phenol Ethoxylate, Octylphenoxypolyethoxyethanol Nonionic Surfactant. Components: 97-99% (by weight) Octylphenoxypolyethoxyethanol CAS# 9036-19-5 1-3% (by weight) Polyethylene glycol CAS# 25322-68-3 Trace amounts of ethylene oxide (CAS# 75-21-8) and dioxane (CAS# 123-91-1) Health Hazard Data: May be harmful by inhalation, ingestion, or skin absorption. Carcinogenicity: contains traces of ethylene oxide and dioxane listed IARC Group 2A as probably carcinogenic to humans and in Group 2B as possibly carcinogenic to humans respectively. Helpful Definitions for the next section: Parathion: a liquid thiophosphate agricultural insecticide of extreme toxicity to mammals as well as insects. Paraoxon: a phosphate ester that is formed from parathion in the body and that is a potent anticholinesterase. (Webster's Third Unabridged 1986) Acetylcholinesterase: An enzyme that breaks down the neurotransmitter acetylcholine at the synaptic cleft (the space between two nerve cells) so the next nerve impulse can be transmitted across the synaptic gap. Pesticides of the organophosphate and carbamate types act to paralyze and kill insects by inhibiting their acetylcholinesterase. Abbreviated AChE. Acetylcholine: A key chemical in neurons (nerve cells) that acts as a neurotransmitter and carries information across the synaptic cleft, the space between two nerve cells. Abbreviated ACh. Neurotransmitter: A chemical that is released from a nerve cell which thereby transmits an impulse from a nerve cell to another nerve, muscle, organ, or other tissue. A neurotransmitter is a messenger of neurologic information from one cell to another. The following is an excerpt from the website: http://www.toxsci.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/63/2/208 However, the presence of both 1% Triton X-100 and paraoxon (at concentrations of 5 nM–100 nM) resulted in complex kinetic interactions with acetylcholinesterase Inhibition of the critical enzyme acetylcholinesterase (E.C. 3.1.1.7) with subsequent cholinergic crisis is the mechanism of acute toxicity of the organophosphorus insecticides (B. E. Mileson et al.,1998,Toxicol. Sci.41, 8–20). Consequently, measurement of acetylcholinesterase activity is important for evaluating the mammalian toxicity of this commonly used class of insecticides. Although the effect of 1% Triton X-100 on hydrolysis of acetylthiocholine by acetylcholinesterase was slight (Figs. 2 and 3), this detergent markedly affected the interaction of paraoxon and acetylcholinesterase In view of the results of the current report, the interpretation of acetylcholinesterase activities in the presence of 1% Triton X-100 deserves consideration. |
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> Anybody know anything about the Q2 Energy Spa? It is another foot
>bath type of detox. >http://healthandlight.com/q2_how_to.htm >There is a healer here that thinks it is the greatest and seen great >results. He advocates the sweating sauna therapy also. I have an Aqua-Chi Machine, which is almost identical in function (see www.aquachimachine.com). When I was slowly coming off paxil from high doses, I used to get extreme side-effects from it, and went to Shiatsu every two weeks for bioenergy balancing. But the side effects just continuing messing with my energy system in a really bad way. So I bought the Aqua-Chi Machine to recharge my body with Chi in between my Shiatsu sessions. It worked very well. The only thing I don't like about these machines is that it creates an electrolytic process to create the chi energy in the water, and the electrolytics leave residue from the metal plates in the water, which can cause skin allergies if one is allergic to metals. I still use my unit but make sure to wash my feet well after using. I haven't used it yet for detox directly, I hadn't really thought about it. Perhaps I'll try it now that its caught my attention. Cheers, Glenn |
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