Re: 3 prong Quantum conditioner, Companion, Pro

hi Marc,
 
Wow!  i was given one of those 3 outlet conditioners free by the company,but personally it does nothing for me.  glad it helps you tho! 
 
i also am not seeing 100% help from the Quantum Companion.  i have beenusing it when i leave home, but perhaps i have not figured out yet how to set it.  i come in and out of different amounts of frequencies so often and quickly, that it is hard to keep the settings so it works for me, traveling down a highway.  it does work for visiting a doctor's office or friend's house, usually, tho my experience is it doesn't work as completely as the Q-Pro does for me.  do you have any tidbits of advice re setting theCompanion, Marc?  i know you have much more experience. 
 
thanks so much for suggesting these devices!  even less than 100% help is worth it.
d

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:59 PM








> the Pro is expensive ($500), but what is sleep worth?

Well, maybe not everyone needs the expensive "Pro" model. My
sleep is vastly improved just with their $30 3-outlet power
conditioner!

Marc
















     

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> Wow!  i was given one of those 3 outlet conditioners free by the
> company, but personally it does nothing for me.

Yes, those cheap Quantum power conditioners are much less powerful than
the Quantum Home or Pro, but for me they are just about right to counter
the EMF I have in my bedroom from a nearby street power transformer and
the oil-filled radiator space heater I use in our bedroom in the winter
months (you actually might notice a benefit from the conditioners
if you plug them into particular outlets, or used 2 or 3 of them in
your house).

> i also am not seeing 100% help from the Quantum Companion.  i have
> been using it when i leave home, but perhaps i have not figured out
> yet how to set it.  i come in and out of different amounts of
> frequencies so often and quickly, that it is hard to keep the settings
> so it works for me, traveling down a highway.  it does work for
> visiting a doctor's office or friend's house, usually, tho my
> experience is it doesn't work as completely as the Q-Pro does for me.
> do you have any tidbits of advice re setting the Companion, Marc?

The Quantum Companion is also weak compared to the Quantum Pro. While
driving, you could use add a Quantum Auto (plugged into a cigarette
lighter jack), which is stronger. Or you could combine the Quantum
Companion with a 2nd or a 3rd EMF protection device. Two Quantum
Companions used together is stronger than one, but these things are so
expensive that you may not want to do this. The company that sells them
suggests one alternative for extremely sensitive people -- use a Quantum
Home/Pro and a portable 12 volt battery in a backpack. I've never
personally tried this, as it seems too cumbersome/inconvenient.

Another option is to use an EMF protection device sold by another
company, either in addition to the Quantum Companion or instead of it. I
cannot predict which might work the best for you, but there are several
that I've used with good results -- springlife polarizers, personal
polarizers, mega-chi pendants, earthcalm resonators, radar card, and
tachyonized armbands. The prices for these items range anywhere
from $30 - $300, and as far as I'm concerned, the $300 items aren't
necessarily better than the $30 items!

Marc

thanks Marc!
 
thanks so much for all the great info!  i have one question--how do you use the 3 prong in your bedroom, besides plugging oilfilled heater into it?  i don't have anything plugged in in most rooms--i unplug everything butfridge.  you don't get a difference by just having it plugged in to the wall, do you?  i have the 3 prong conditioner currently on my fridge but i still react to one of the cycles the fridge goes thru (but before i reacted entire time the fridge was on, so i guess i should not be saying the 3prong conditioner is 100% not effective for me.  it didn't, however, seem to effect any change when i used it for my computer; but i do not have much es from my computer now that i worked to power it down).
 
btw, i said my Pro had 10 extra settings on the back awhile ago.  it actually has more than that--like the Companion it also has ABC settings.
 
thanks again,
d

--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 3 prong Quantum conditioner, Companion, Pro
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:15 PM








> Wow!  i was given one of those 3 outlet conditioners free by the
> company, but personally it does nothing for me.

Yes, those cheap Quantum power conditioners are much less powerful than
the Quantum Home or Pro, but for me they are just about right to counter
the EMF I have in my bedroom from a nearby street power transformer and
the oil-filled radiator space heater I use in our bedroom in the winter
months (you actually might notice a benefit from the conditioners
if you plug them into particular outlets, or used 2 or 3 of them in
your house).

> i also am not seeing 100% help from the Quantum Companion.  i have
> been using it when i leave home, but perhaps i have not figured out
> yet how to set it.  i come in and out of different amounts of
> frequencies so often and quickly, that it is hard to keep the settings
> so it works for me, traveling down a highway.  it does work for
> visiting a doctor's office or friend's house, usually, tho my
> experience is it doesn't work as completely as the Q-Pro does for me.
> do you have any tidbits of advice re setting the Companion, Marc?

The Quantum Companion is also weak compared to the Quantum Pro. While
driving, you could use add a Quantum Auto (plugged into a cigarette
lighter jack), which is stronger. Or you could combine the Quantum
Companion with a 2nd or a 3rd EMF protection device. Two Quantum
Companions used together is stronger than one, but these things are so
expensive that you may not want to do this. The company that sells them
suggests one alternative for extremely sensitive people -- use a Quantum
Home/Pro and a portable 12 volt battery in a backpack. I've never
personally tried this, as it seems too cumbersome/inconven ient.

Another option is to use an EMF protection device sold by another
company, either in addition to the Quantum Companion or instead of it. I
cannot predict which might work the best for you, but there are several
that I've used with good results -- springlife polarizers, personal
polarizers, mega-chi pendants, earthcalm resonators, radar card, and
tachyonized armbands. The prices for these items range anywhere
from $30 - $300, and as far as I'm concerned, the $300 items aren't
necessarily better than the $30 items!

Marc
















     

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> thanks so much for all the great info!  i have one question--how do
> you use the 3 prong in your bedroom, besides plugging oil filled
> heater into it?

I actually don't even do that -- I merely plug the conditioner into an
outlet close to the radiator. There is nothing plugged into the
conditioner. The company was actually quite surprised that I noticed
such a difference from using just the conditioners, and said that I must
be quite sensitive! (like I didn't know that already)

To get the most effect from the power conditioners, you should plug
them into an outlet close to where you have the most symptoms. For me,
this is generally by my computer and by my television. For you, that
might be by your fridge. Or maybe by a window where there is a
cellphone tower outside. I think they are stronger if high wattage
items are plugged into them, but you don't *have* to have something
plugged into them.

And the effect is additive -- two conditioners in the house is stronger
than one, and three is stronger than two.

> btw, i said my Pro had 10 extra settings on the back awhile ago.  it
> actually has more than that--like the Companion it also has ABC
> settings.

Ahh, so it has 16 settings, thanks. On my Quantum Companion, I can't
really tell much difference between these 16 settings, so I generally
have it set to "0" or "8" (I think "0" is supposed to be better for
getting some sleep, while "8" is an average setting. I suppose 16 is
for people who are busy)

Marc

thanks for the info, Marc!
 
so interesting that you don't need to plug things into them!  that was what i thought you meant the first post, but thought i surely misunderstood.  lol  the odd thing was i thought i did notice a bigger difference toowith nothing plugged into it, but thought my imagination was getting the best of me.  so another one next to the fridge might help--i will try that.
 
you wrote that you can't tell much difference between the "fine-tuning" settings on the Q-Companion....  i can't tell as much on the Companion, but can really tell a difference on the Pro and my body doesn't like 0 and 1 atall!  i love 2 to 5 but can't tolerate much higher than that.  i become more and more anxious the higher i set it.  these devices are so intriguing.  i'd love to understand how exactly they work. 
 
i mentioned awhile back that i seemed to react when windows and doors were opened--not sure whether that is lack of Q-Pro coverage or due to difference in barometric pressure.  i got to thinking about that--we have had alotof storms going thru the past month.  i am going to pay more attention to that in the coming months.
 
thanks again!
d
--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 3 prong Quantum conditioner, Companion, Pro
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 7:17 PM








> thanks so much for all the great info!  i have one question--how do
> you use the 3 prong in your bedroom, besides plugging oil filled
> heater into it?

I actually don't even do that -- I merely plug the conditioner into an
outlet close to the radiator. There is nothing plugged into the
conditioner. The company was actually quite surprised that I noticed
such a difference from using just the conditioners, and said that I must
be quite sensitive! (like I didn't know that already)

To get the most effect from the power conditioners, you should plug
them into an outlet close to where you have the most symptoms. For me,
this is generally by my computer and by my television. For you, that
might be by your fridge. Or maybe by a window where there is a
cellphone tower outside. I think they are stronger if high wattage
items are plugged into them, but you don't *have* to have something
plugged into them.

And the effect is additive -- two conditioners in the house is stronger
than one, and three is stronger than two.

> btw, i said my Pro had 10 extra settings on the back awhile ago.  it
> actually has more than that--like the Companion it also has ABC
> settings.

Ahh, so it has 16 settings, thanks. On my Quantum Companion, I can't
really tell much difference between these 16 settings, so I generally
have it set to "0" or "8" (I think "0" is supposed to be better for
getting some sleep, while "8" is an average setting. I suppose 16 is
for people who are busy)

Marc
















     

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> you wrote that you can't tell much difference between the "fine-
> tuning" settings on the Q-Companion....  i can't tell as much on the
> Companion, but can really tell a difference on the Pro and my body
> doesn't like 0 and 1 at all!  i love 2 to 5 but can't tolerate much
> higher than that.  i become more and more anxious the higher i set
> it.  these devices are so intriguing.  i'd love to understand how
> exactly they work.

They're not well-explained (and I have looked!). I think they work on
the principles of "coherence", which is part of Quantum Physics. They
believe that people react badly to man-made EMF because it lacks
"coherence". So the solution is to make the existing EMF more coherent.
According to Quantum Physics, you can make an incoherent field more
coherent by subjecting it to another coherent field. So that is what
these devices are -- a source of a coherent field. Some of the items
they sell use their own custom-designed circuitry (e.g. Quantum Pro,
Quantum Home), while other items are simply commercial items that
contain circuit boards (e.g. power strips), and they can make the
existing circuit boards become an emitter of a coherent field by
temporarily exposing them to some sort of special field (like putting
them in an MRI chamber or something). However, these devices are
not as strong as the ones which use the custom-designed circuitry.

This is simply my understanding, based on the information I've read
over the years. It may or may not be true. :-)

And I have no idea what the fine tuning settings do. I do know that if
you buy a Quantum Home or Pro without the fine tuning feature, it is
equivalent to having a fine tuning setting of "8" (which means that
if you don't like anything above "5", then you wouldn't like these)

Marc

hi Marc,
 
thanks so much for your explanation of how the Quantum products work!  i kept asking the company rep and she kept giving me this dirt road vs a super highway speech and i wasn't getting it!  lol  what you are saying makes perfect sense to me (even tho i understand quantum physics even less than how to pave a road to make it perfectly flat).  ;)
 
interesting what you wrote about Quantum products without fine-tuning beingpermanently set to 8....  that might be why some essers report having anxiety using some of these products.
 
thanks again, Marc!  i trust your reasoning.  afterall, you ARE a rocket scientist!  lol
d

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 3 prong Quantum conditioner, Companion, Pro
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:37 PM








> you wrote that you can't tell much difference between the "fine-
> tuning" settings on the Q-Companion. ...  i can't tell as much on the
> Companion, but can really tell a difference on the Pro and my body
> doesn't like 0 and 1 at all!  i love 2 to 5 but can't tolerate much
> higher than that.  i become more and more anxious the higher i set
> it.  these devices are so intriguing.  i'd love to understand how
> exactly they work.

They're not well-explained (and I have looked!). I think they work on
the principles of "coherence", which is part of Quantum Physics. They
believe that people react badly to man-made EMF because it lacks
"coherence". So the solution is to make the existing EMF more coherent.
According to Quantum Physics, you can make an incoherent field more
coherent by subjecting it to another coherent field. So that is what
these devices are -- a source of a coherent field. Some of the items
they sell use their own custom-designed circuitry (e.g. Quantum Pro,
Quantum Home), while other items are simply commercial items that
contain circuit boards (e.g. power strips), and they can make the
existing circuit boards become an emitter of a coherent field by
temporarily exposing them to some sort of special field (like putting
them in an MRI chamber or something). However, these devices are
not as strong as the ones which use the custom-designed circuitry.

This is simply my understanding, based on the information I've read
over the years. It may or may not be true. :-)

And I have no idea what the fine tuning settings do. I do know that if
you buy a Quantum Home or Pro without the fine tuning feature, it is
equivalent to having a fine tuning setting of "8" (which means that
if you don't like anything above "5", then you wouldn't like these)

Marc
















     

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> i kept asking the company rep and she kept giving me this dirt road vs
> a super highway speech and i wasn't getting it!

Hmmm, I'm not sure if I've heard that explanation before, although I'm
also not convinced that the company rep (Margi) really understands how
they work. :-)

I suppose the dirt road vs. highway analogy has something to do with how
their technology makes it easier for electrons to move from point A to
point B in an orderly fashion? So instead of having a lot of bumps and
random motion caused by a bumpy road, the electrons all move smoothly
together in parallel like on a highway? This technology was, after all,
originally designed to make electricity work more efficiently. I think
they stumbled onto the discovery that efficient electricity is also
more tolerable to people.

Marc

yes, Marc,
 
that was my understanding--electrons move from point A to B more efficiently.  but i kept asking how and there was no real reasoning given.  (i think you might be right that Margi didn't unerstand it herself.  pot calling the kettle black here.  lol)
 
d

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 3 prong Quantum conditioner, Companion, Pro
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Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 4:39 PM








> i kept asking the company rep and she kept giving me this dirt road vs
> a super highway speech and i wasn't getting it!

Hmmm, I'm not sure if I've heard that explanation before, although I'm
also not convinced that the company rep (Margi) really understands how
they work. :-)

I suppose the dirt road vs. highway analogy has something to do with how
their technology makes it easier for electrons to move from point A to
point B in an orderly fashion? So instead of having a lot of bumps and
random motion caused by a bumpy road, the electrons all move smoothly
together in parallel like on a highway? This technology was, after all,
originally designed to make electricity work more efficiently. I think
they stumbled onto the discovery that efficient electricity is also
more tolerable to people.

Marc
















     

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> that was my understanding--electrons move from point A to B more
> efficiently.  but i kept asking how and there was no real reasoning
> given.  (i think you might be right that Margi didn't unerstand it
> herself.  pot calling the kettle black here.  lol)

It's funny, because this company is the originator of this technology,
but they don't describe their products in a very technical manner,
and rather depend on simplified analogies.

Meanwhile, one of the ex-employees of this company quit in the 1990s,
formed his own company (arguably using stolen technology from the first
company, right down to stealing the name "Quantum Products"),
making similar products for the audio and video industry.
They actually describe the products in a far better way (in
my opinion). See this product review, for example:

http://www.stereotimes.com/acc112301.shtml

I'll quote from this webpage:

Briefly put, Quantum Resonance Technology™ is claimed
to neutralize EM & RF Interference through the application
of an electromagnetic field theory in a proprietary manner
to enhance the transfer function characteristics of conductive
materials. This process is said to neutralize chaotic
electron motion behavior within the circuitry so that it
becomes more ordered and coherent.

Bill explains, "This process neutralizes the conductive
disorders within the material structures by exposure to
a "sustained resonance" of a high degree of order. "Sustained
resonance" means that structures vibrate at a frequency
natural to them. When QRT™ is applied to electrical conductors
they become less susceptible to radiated or induced
electromagnetic fields, the fidelity of transmitted
information improves, and ambient noise diminishes. The
associated frequency generating microprocessor circuitry
provides a convenient method to induce a coherent
electromagnetic field to the AC line and enclosed
environment. The frequencies were developed based upon
principles of musical composition and other methods
that generate an extensive variety of field patterns."

Hmmm, maybe some people would still prefer the super-highway
analogy... :-)

Marc