RF effects of small devices, and ionizer

Randolf mentioned wanting an air ionizer. I tried one, an Elanra
from Australia, and it fixed my sleep. Unfortunately after using it
too long I got ringing ears. It had an intermittent setting, where
it would turn on and off every 5 minutes. I forgot about this, and
several times at my metallic desk I found myself feeling very
grotty and nauseous. After a while I realised it was only when it
was on intermittent. The whole desk would charge up and start humming,
and the static or something was a problem. Peoples reactions to
ionizers are various. They should apparently give out both positive
and negative ions, as opposed neg only, or something electrical in
the room could blow up. You could contact me Randolf if you want to
know about Elanra, I still have it. It did some good, but for me
not that strong.

Many EMC workers now are making money from working on laying out WiFI
and WiMAX networks for consumers and industry, with good rates of
pay,
so
have a vested interest in not wanting to know the negative effects.
RF from mobiles has been clearly shown to affect brain waves.
es have also shown to have brain wave changes to occipital alpha
spectrum. It is not known if these two are linked. The affects
on concentration and headaches of mobile users are worldwide and
government registered, with the near field effect of the devices
clearly causing localised brain alterations. The data coming through
is presenting a pretty wholesale picture of DNA damage, with the
exact details of changes to various cells still being thrashed out.
A recent paper shows particularly nasty damage to the brain in terms
of lipid peroxidation. This is similar to the after effects of
carbon monoxide poisoing (EMR produces malondialehyde changes). Most
members of the list clearly react to EMF/ EMR producing devices, and
probably have the sorts of damage noticed in studies.

Rowsteroz,
Could youn please give more details on how "es has brain waves changes"? Who
said that? Anything on EEG surveys related to our issue would be interesing!

Drasko

> RF from mobiles has been clearly shown to affect brain waves.
> es have also shown to have brain wave changes to occipital alpha
> spectrum. It is not known if these two are linked. The affects
> on concentration and headaches of mobile users are worldwide and
> government registered, with the near field effect of the devices
> clearly causing localised brain alterations.

Hello,

I just bought an aircleaner. But it is interesting tohear about the topic
and the device you have.

Randolf


--- In [hidden email], "rowsteroz" <rowanc@w...> wrote:
> Randolf mentioned wanting an air ionizer. I tried one, an Elanra
> from Australia, and it fixed my sleep. Unfortunately after using it
> too long I got ringing ears. It had an intermittent setting, where
> it would turn on and off every 5 minutes. I forgot about this, and
> several times at my metallic desk I found myself feeling very
> grotty and nauseous. After a while I realised it was only when it
> was on intermittent. The whole desk would charge up and start
humming,
> and the static or something was a problem. Peoples reactions to
> ionizers are various. They should apparently give out both positive
> and negative ions, as opposed neg only, or something electrical in
> the room could blow up. You could contact me Randolf if you want to
> know about Elanra, I still have it. It did some good, but for me
> not that strong.
>
> Many EMC workers now are making money from working on laying
out WiFI Most
> members of the list clearly react to EMF/ EMR producing devices, and
> probably have the sorts of damage noticed in studies.

> I just bought an aircleaner. But it is interesting to hear about the topic
> and the device you have.

I also had a bad reaction to ionizers, which put a lot of negative
ions into the air. I recall the reaction included brief pains
on my skin. I don't have any bad reaction to air purifiers which
use ozone, aran, etc.

Marc