Question re: printer and sun chlorella

Yesterday in the room with a desktop, lamp and t.v. on, I had to go in there
to use the huge printer we have in there. (so I was on the computer for
about 10 minutes) I got overwhelmingly nauseous! It's never been so bad that I
actually threw up a little, like yesterday. Now that being said, the printer
is rarely on. I probably use it less than once a month. So I'm wondering if it
was just a fluke or anyone else here discovered printers make them feel
horrible?
Now to the sun chlorella question. I did check the archives before asking
this, but I'm wondering if anyone has had any GOOD relief from using it. I used
it before, months ago, and it gave me lots of energy, but that was way before
I'd even heard of EMS and symptoms. The other question to those, like Marc,
who have bad reactions to it, is this: do you think you couldn't tolerate it
because of heavy detox symptoms? And if so how much did you take at a time,
and for how long? Last question: does anyone know if Sun Chlorella is one of
the brands people say is contaminated?? I thought it was supposed to be the
best brand because of it's cracked wall cells, and the gentle way it is
processed.
Amy



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Regarding printers, the only time our laser printer has bothered
me was when my wife was printing hundreds of sheets continuously.
And even then, I think it was more that the smell was bothering me,
not the electromagnetic fields.

As for chlorella, the "Sun Chlorella" brand is indeed one of the
brands that is supposed to be contaminated, and I got bad symptoms
even taking just one tablet! I was much more tolerant of Earthrise
Chlorella, or Natures Balance Chlorella, which are both supposed
to be uncontaminated. However, even then these made me worse
if I took them daily. It could be that they are mobilizing toxins
into the bloodstream and making you feel bad, or it could be some
bad reaction to chlorella in general.

In the end, I took NDF, which is a liquid preparation that I
could take in small enough doses that it produced some benefit,
but also didn't cause me to feel to bad. However, if I take
too much of that, I also feel bad.

Marc

Hi Amy,
 
I don't have a printer now so I don't know how it would affect me, but I have read that alot of people with MCS (and some with MCS + ES) react to printers. I think they react to the ink initially. But it might be a bit like pesticides.... the pesticides make you react to ES too. They (pesticidesand inks) just do funky things to the immune system which is messed up in those of us with MCS. I read an online biography of an artist/photographer who gets ill using her digital camera and printer. She reacts to the inks and digital signals. Digital anything seems to make me ill, so maybe also your printer has digital technology somehow built into it? Hers was one that enlarged, copied, etc, etc.
 
Diane

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Yesterday in the room with a desktop, lamp and t.v. on, I had to go in there
to use the huge printer we have in there. (so I was on the computer for
about 10 minutes) I got overwhelmingly nauseous! It's never been so bad that I
actually threw up a little, like yesterday. Now that being said, the printer
is rarely on. I probably use it less than once a month. So I'm wondering ifit
was just a fluke or anyone else here discovered printers make them feel
horrible?
Now to the sun chlorella question. I did check the archives before asking
this, but I'm wondering if anyone has had any GOOD relief from using it. I used
it before, months ago, and it gave me lots of energy, but that was way before
I'd even heard of EMS and symptoms. The other question to those, like Marc,
who have bad reactions to it, is this: do you think you couldn't tolerate it
because of heavy detox symptoms? And if so how much did you take at a time,
and for how long? Last question: does anyone know if Sun Chlorella is one of
the brands people say is contaminated? ? I thought it was supposed to be the
best brand because of it's cracked wall cells, and the gentle way it is
processed.
Amy

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In the end, I took NDF, which is a liquid preparation that I



What is NDF please?
Amy



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> What is NDF please?

NDF is micronized chlorella and cilantro, which has a small
enough particle size that it goes into the bloodstream more
readily than regular powdered chlorella, and exits along with
its bound toxins via the kidneys/bladder instead of the liver:

https://www.bioray2000.com/Products.cfm

Marc

Thanks Marc~I notice it is expensive. I am sure it is probably worth it, and
I see that it could last a month, but how long would someone take that for?
Amy

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take everything you have.
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> What is NDF please?

NDF is micronized chlorella and cilantro, which has a small
enough particle size that it goes into the bloodstream more
readily than regular powdered chlorella, and exits along with
its bound toxins via the kidneys/bladder instead of the liver:

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(https://www.bioray2000.com/Products.cfm)

Marc







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> Thanks Marc~I notice it is expensive. I am sure it is probably worth it,
> and I see that it could last a month, but how long would someone take that
> for?

Well, it all comes down to dosage. A lot of people who have serious
problems detoxifying cannot tolerate any chelators in large doses, so
they may only be able to tolerate 1 drop a day. In such a case, that
bottle will probably last you over a year! However, if you are able
to tolerate the maximum dose of 50 - 100 drops per day, then that
bottle may only last you a week or two.

When I started NDF, I started at around 1 drop a day. After a long
time, I was able to ramp up slowly, and I think that for a while
I was taking up to 50 drops per day. Interestingly, years later
after I had stopped taking NDF and had gone downhill again, I had
to start over at 1 drop a day. In hindsight, I guess I should have
taken a maintenance dose *forever*, as it seems that my body
simply accumulates toxins and can't get rid of them on its own.
(I suppose that some proper liver support might take care of
that)

Marc

Wow, okay then. I thought I'd have to go through a whole bottle per month. I
hadn't realized that even one drop would do some sort of good. I saw that
they did have liver support too. I did start some chlorella, and have been
itching like a madman-at nighttime especially. I am going to try this NDF stuff
and see how I do.
Amy

In a message dated 7/1/2008 4:14:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Well, it all comes down to dosage. A lot of people who have serious
problems detoxifying cannot tolerate any chelators in large doses, so
they may only be able to tolerate 1 drop a day. In such a case, that
bottle will probably last you over a year! However, if you are able
to tolerate the maximum dose of 50 - 100 drops per day, then that
bottle may only last you a week or two.

When I started NDF, I started at around 1 drop a day. After a long
time, I was able to ramp up slowly, and I think that for a while
I was taking up to 50 drops per day. Interestingly, years later
after I had stopped taking NDF and had gone downhill again, I had
to start over at 1 drop a day. In hindsight, I guess I should have
taken a maintenance dose *forever*, as it seems that my body
simply accumulates toxins and can't get rid of them on its own.
(I suppose that some proper liver support might take care of
that)

Marc




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take everything you have.
Thomas Jefferson




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> Wow, okay then. I thought I'd have to go through a whole bottle per
> month. I hadn't realized that even one drop would do some sort of good.

I've heard that 1 drop per day can do some good longterm, however
I have always tried to increase my dose to just below where I get
adverse symptoms. At the moment, that seems to be about 5 drops
per day. But like I said, I had previously been handling much
more than that.

And yes, that same company does offer a liver support product
(LiverLife), although I seem to react badly to anything which
contains milk thistle.

Marc