Hi,
We highly recommend that you read an article entitled "Electroshocker" in the January 2010 issue of Prevention magazine. It explains cancer clusters and electrohypersensitivity. It was very well done by a main stream magazine. We had to order our copies directly from Prevention magazine at 800-813-8070, as we went to five locations and they were completely sold out (hopefully, because people are wanting to be educated about it and not that "big business" is buying them up or preventing them from getting on the news stands). The article contains great information that you will want for your families health and well being. Kind regards, Michelle & Charlie p.s.: Please forward this message to all your friends, loved ones and doubters. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
You can read the article online here: http://www.prevention.com/health/health/healthy-lifestyle/is-dirty-elect\ ricity-making-you-sick/article/9e60d47569225210VgnVCM10000030281eac___ <http://www.prevention.com/health/health/healthy-lifestyle/is-dirty-elec\ tricity-making-you-sick/article/9e60d47569225210VgnVCM10000030281eac____\ > There is more here: http://www.prevention.com/emf <http://www.prevention.com/emf> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I do not agree with their point 10:
Think LCD over plasma. There are good LCD's and there are very bad LCD's. And the same goes for plasma's. It is not so the *dirty power* which goes in to the electric wiring, but it is the *dirty air*, that makes them unbearable for electrosensitives. *Dirty air* are the VLF frequencies, which are radiated into the air around electrical appliances, like TV's, etc. Their biological impact on electrosensitives is over much greater distances, than the measurable electrical field. Electrosensitives should also be aware for those blue lights coming from certain TV's, USB hubs, and other appliances. I have placed new recorded modulations of VLF on Pagina109.html on my homepage. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "dougwdiego" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:19 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Prevention magazine article > > You can read the article online here: > http://www.prevention.com/health/health/healthy-lifestyle/is-dirty-elect\ > ricity-making-you-sick/article/9e60d47569225210VgnVCM10000030281eac___ > <http://www.prevention.com/health/health/healthy-lifestyle/is-dirty-elec\ > tricity-making-you-sick/article/9e60d47569225210VgnVCM10000030281eac____\ >> There is more here: http://www.prevention.com/emf > <http://www.prevention.com/emf> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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In a message dated 17/01/2010 09:58:29 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: There are good LCD's and there are very bad LCD's. And the same goes for plasma's. It is not so the *dirty power* which goes in to the electric wiring, but it is the *dirty air*, that makes them unbearable for electrosensitives. *Dirty air* are the VLF frequencies, which are radiated into the air around electrical appliances, like TV's, et PUK replies - If the appliance wether its a Plasma, LCD Tv or dvd or set top box is capable of sending back modulated signals through the mains cables (due to poor EMC design of the equipment) it will radiate off from cables, now these cables could be the large length of anntena cable to the sattelite dish/ariel or at the same time the mains cables in the house, the mains cables in the street, the telecoms cables, water and gas pipes etc, these systems become unintentional ariels for the stray signals from the latter appliances and will vary in frequency depending on the length and general properties of the wiring etc that they radiate off. So for me dirty air as you describe would be the near feild to the appliance and the other radiations off cables and other conductive appliances would be a mix of near feild and far feild radiations all of which can hit you with a broad range of frequencies, either way it is likely that many Electrosensitives will suffer from both - I know this from bitter experience. If anyone wants to learn about Electromagnetic interference EMI a good port of call is the Radio Society of Great Britain and also a magazine called RADCOM, the ham radio operators are as much concerned with their precious radio set ups as we are with our health and well being, they are a srtange alliy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
It seems to me the problem is more radiation off the TV than dirty electricity. But there are probably exceptions when the TV lets loose on the power lines. In my case a neighbor's TV is rocking me - up to 30 ft away I get tinnitus and other symptoms. After many hours of inspecting our power (with an oscilloscope) I've found very little correlation. Sometimes the power gets particularly dirty, but I'm unable to reproducibly associate it with their TV. My conclusion therefor is radiation rather than conduction on the lines. Eli --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > In a message dated 17/01/2010 09:58:29 GMT Standard Time, > charles@... writes: > > There are good LCD's and there are very bad LCD's. > And the same goes for plasma's. > > It is not so the *dirty power* which goes in to the electric wiring, but > it > is the *dirty air*, that makes them unbearable for electrosensitives. > *Dirty air* are the VLF frequencies, which are radiated into the air > around > electrical appliances, like TV's, et > > PUK replies - If the appliance wether its a Plasma, LCD Tv or dvd or set > top box is capable of sending back modulated signals through the mains cables > (due to poor EMC design of the equipment) it will radiate off from cables, > now these cables could be the large length of anntena cable to the > sattelite dish/ariel or at the same time the mains cables in the house, the mains > cables in the street, the telecoms cables, water and gas pipes etc, these > systems become unintentional ariels for the stray signals from the latter > appliances and will vary in frequency depending on the length and general > properties of the wiring etc that they radiate off. So for me dirty airas > you describe would be the near feild to the appliance and the other > radiations off cables and other conductive appliances would be a mix of near feild > and far feild radiations all of which can hit you with a broad range of > frequencies, either way it is likely that many Electrosensitives will suffer > from both - I know this from bitter experience. If anyone wants to learn > about Electromagnetic interference EMI a good port of call is the Radio > Society of Great Britain and also a magazine called RADCOM, the ham radio > operators are as much concerned with their precious radio set ups as we are with > our health and well being, they are a srtange alliy. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Did you notice there is no reference to the "Electroshocker" article on the front cover of the Prevention magazine? Seems big business has their hands in everything. Eli --- In [hidden email], "Charles Bubnis" <cbubnis@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > We highly recommend that you read an article entitled "Electroshocker" inthe January 2010 issue of Prevention magazine. > > It explains cancer clusters and electrohypersensitivity. It was very well done by a main stream magazine. > > We had to order our copies directly from Prevention magazine at 800-813-8070, as we went to five locations and they were completely sold out (hopefully, because people are wanting to be educated about it and not that "big business" is buying them up or preventing them from getting on the news stands). > > The article contains great information that you will want for your families health and well being. > > Kind regards, > > Michelle & Charlie > > p.s.: Please forward this message to all your friends, loved ones and doubters. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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In a message dated 17/01/2010 14:02:21 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I've found very little correlation. Sometimes the power gets particularly dirty, but I'm unable to reproducibly associate it with their TV. My conclusion therefor is radiation rather than conduction on the lines. Eli Puk replies - In my case using the AM radio if I draw close to the mains incoming cable or my telephone it goes balistic with the radio, the signal from the Plasma TV is unmistakable. If we have comnducted RF then surely we will have radiated RF from the cables at the same time and so on into a viscious circle. puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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