Pregnenolone for emf sensitivity?

Hi, recently, I have been dealing with greater and greater sensitivity
to emf, manifested mainly as dizziness and headaches. I have posted
about my problems with new high resolution monitors some time ago.

These problems have sent me looking for remedies that are not so much
for emf, but for the brain in general, especially for brain fog. Two
things have helped me (for both the fog and emf sensitivity): one is
magnesium l-threonate, another -- pregnenolone. Magnesium l-threonate is
somewhat expensive. Pregnenolone is cheap. I take 20 mg per day. I think
pregnenolone is more effective.

Alicja

This is interesting. I just started a supplement called Mind Max with magnesium L-threonate, gingko biloba and gotu kola. The Mind Max matched me on the electrodermal machine.

My main emf reactions are my brain "goes away", anxiety, and tachycardia as well as being physically unstable (more than dizzy).  It's more than annoying. It's further exacerbated by the new so-called analog meter (evil) and worsens on bad chemtrail days.

Pregnenolone sounds interesting.

Judy



--- In [hidden email], "Alicja" <czasemtak@...> wrote:

Judy, I would love to hear how the Mind Max is helping you with your
symptoms, if at all. Gingko is a blood thinner; I am anticoagulated and
cannot take anything that could compound the effect.

Sorry about your symptoms. It must be hell. My heart gets involved when
I am driving with the lights on. So no driving after dark for me. I have
removed the fuse that controls DRL in my car. Do you have any theory as
to what has caused your emf sensitivity?

I have this theory that one has to have a previous unhealed injury, and
that the injured tissue is further irritated or even harmed by the emf.
Brain is a good place for mercury and other fat-loving toxins. So I
think this is my cause of emf sensitivity.

I have read an interesting article about pregnenolone and its role in
the ageing brain. Here is the link:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jun2004_report_preg_01.htm?source=se\
arch&key=pregnenolone

Sorry, what is chemtrail?

Alicja




--- In [hidden email], "judyl_nev"  wrote:
>
> This is interesting. I just started a supplement called Mind Max with
magnesium L-threonate, gingko biloba and gotu kola. The Mind Max matched
me on the electrodermal machine.
>
> My main emf reactions are my brain "goes away", anxiety, and
tachycardia as well as being physically unstable (more than dizzy).
It's more than annoying. It's further exacerbated by the new so-called
analog meter (evil) and worsens on bad chemtrail days.
>
> Pregnenolone sounds interesting.
>
> Judy

Hi Alicja,

Is pregnenolone an Rx?  I'm having the dizziness, and also the  
symptoms Judy mentioned.  It's getting scary in terms of my functioning.

Thanks,
Esther

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Hi, Esther.

No, it's not. You can buy it from any supplement vendor (iHerb,
Swanson's, etc.).

It comes in various strengths. I think it's best to try small. I buy it
really cheap on Swanson, their house brand. If you don't like the
generics, lots of companies make pregnenolone. Try iHerb, or Swanson's
website. Or your local health food store. You will probably pay more
there, but then you don't pay for the shipping.

About your symptoms: are they worse when you are agitated, or tense, or
upset? They are in my case. I have given up on everything that is a
stimulant (coffee, chocolate, etc.) and I avoid stress at all cost.

I wonder if other people find that emf hurts them most where their
bodies are already hurt.

Also, I am curious what is the range of symptoms people experience. I
have thought that mainly those organs that require electrical impulses
to function well (brain, heart, gut) would be affected most. But I have
seen posts where people talk about the joint pain.

Maybe we could have a poll or something. We are a large group, enough
people for making generalizations. I think we could help ourselves by
trying to use what we know to figure out how to get better. Avoidance is
good, but not always practical, sometimes not even possible. And so we
suffer.

Alicja




--- In [hidden email], Esther LeSieur  wrote:
>
> Hi Alicja,
>
> Is pregnenolone an Rx?  I'm having the dizziness, and also the
> symptoms Judy mentioned.  It's getting scary in terms of my
functioning.
>
> Thanks,
> Esther
>

I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB?

Christine

--- In [hidden email], Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:

Hi Christine,

Here is a Youtube video with business address for supplementation on repairing the BBB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFUN7xszuc


I just found it now. Cannot say if this is good or not.

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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:55:18 AM
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I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB?

Christine

--- In [hidden email], Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:

 

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Alicja,

1st, go to Youtube and search Chemtrails, Chemtrails + any city or country... then google chemtrails, and you'll get really depressed! Especially look at Barium Blues and Clifford Carnicom, also weather modification.

"Weather modification" has been going on for about 60 years! It is accomplished with various metals - usually aluminum, barium, iron, other stuff. These alter the natural electromagnetic atmosphere, making everything- air, water, earth, US - more electroconductive.

You cannot separate this from the EM spectrum waves put out from cellphone towers, wifi, smart meter/grid etc. Trees and plants are dying, firefighters are fighting the hottest fires they've ever encountered. The heat now is not just thermal heat. It's a chemical heat. Here, it's 100 degrees lately. I'm used to that. But it's different. You feel like you're going to melt. The water is electroconductive. The earth is biting back with "stray voltage" that is harming humans and animals.

It's all connected. So we are assaulted from the air, the water (fluoride + all the drugs everyone is peeing out + myriads of chemicals), Everyone has a threshhold they can deal with - stress, toxins, whatever. When that is maxed, we're in trouble big time.

I'm having trouble with this device. It keeps getting off track... and words are jumping around.  I'm going to stop and try on a new post.

Judy



--- In [hidden email], "Alicja" <czasemtak@...> wrote:
Whate>
> Judy, I would love to hear how the Mind Max is helping you with your

I'm having
We> symptoms, if at all. Gingko is a blood thinner; I am

Try again,

I believe it is an assault issue and a threshhold issue.

Many people have assaults, but don't necessarily become EHS. By "assault" I mean trauma - physical, emotional, stress, chemical assault ... that could be anything - drugs, pesticides, herbicides, food additives, paints, metals, etc... also, as you said unresolved injury OR unresolved infection such as Lyme or resistant strep, Epstein Barr, other viral or microbial, etc.

My husband and one son have each had multiple assaults - physical and emotional, as well as infections, but are not EHS. Another son is borderine EHS. He is sensitive to all energy, but not noticeably affected. We also have geopathic stress and overhead powerlines. I think these are added stressors.

I have probably been EHS all my life, but I didn't recognize it, and it didn't manifest drastically until my threshhld was maxed. Then I would get "pretty clean" and be pretty sorta ok, till I was challenged again. In my case a car accident one time, an unexpected traumatic death another time, and too much stress and pushing myself too hard another time.

I'm trying still and again to clean up my environment, clean up my body more, trying desperately and unsuccessfully to keep stress down (not possible in my life), and plan to move closer to nature and farther from all electrical.

I keep learning. Working on my brain now and still!

Judy



--- In [hidden email], "judyl_nev" <judyl_nev@...> wrote:

I love hearing new ideas! Do you remember where you saw info/article on
this connection (emf and the blood-brain barrier)?

Now, both coconut oil and olive leaf extract are antifungal, so in those
with fungal/Candida issues, they will produce mycotoxins (the die-off).
True to it, whenever I take coconut oil, my emf sensitivity goes up. So
you're right, it's a good idea to look for other things that help repair
the blood-brain barrier. I have followed the link from Laurie, who
responded to your query, and am listening to the lecture now.

I have also looked into my favorite resource -- lef website. I have just
found an article there that, ironically, lists caffeine as a protector
of blood-brain barrier:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/jan2012_Discovering-Coffees-Unique-H\
ealth-Benefits_02.htm?source=search&key=bloodbrain%20barrier

All it means that there is studying to be done. And I will keep looking.
Thank you for bringing it up.

Alicja


--- In [hidden email], "christinelrc"  wrote:
>
> I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems
to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the
blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun
using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my
symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone
else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB?
>
> Christine

OK, Judy. I did go to Wikipedia, which dismisses the issue. Of course,
Wikipedia is not always right, and it often goes with the mainstream. I
will look some more. Why, what would be the purpose of chemtrailing? To
deliberately hurt people?

I think the environment is a cesspool without any deliberate assault on
it.

As far as the idea of causation, we seem to be on the same page. An
injury, an assault. Yes.

A few months back, I experimented with methyl donors, and they seemed to
lessen my reaction. But most of them were tough on my kidneys, so I had
to stop.  Have you, has anyone tried improving methylation?

Alicja


--- In [hidden email], "judyl_nev"  wrote:
>
> Try again,
>
> I believe it is an assault issue and a threshhold issue.
>
> Many people have assaults, but don't necessarily become EHS. By
"assault" I mean trauma - physical, emotional, stress, chemical assault
... that could be anything - drugs, pesticides, herbicides, food
additives, paints, metals, etc... also, as you said unresolved injury OR
unresolved infection such as Lyme or resistant strep, Epstein Barr,
other viral or microbial, etc.
>
> My husband and one son have each had multiple assaults - physical and
emotional, as well as infections, but are not EHS. Another son is
borderine EHS. He is sensitive to all energy, but not noticeably
affected. We also have geopathic stress and overhead powerlines. I think
these are added stressors.
>
> I have probably been EHS all my life, but I didn't recognize it, and
it didn't manifest drastically until my threshhld was maxed. Then I
would get "pretty clean" and be pretty sorta ok, till I was challenged
again. In my case a car accident one time, an unexpected traumatic death
another time, and too much stress and pushing myself too hard another
time.
>
> I'm trying still and again to clean up my environment, clean up my
body more, trying desperately and unsuccessfully to keep stress down
(not possible in my life), and plan to move closer to nature and farther
from all electrical. country... then google chemtrails, and you'll get really depressed!
Especially look at Barium Blues and Clifford Carnicom, also weather
modification.
> >
> > "Weather modification" has been going on for about 60 years! It is
accomplished with various metals - usually aluminum, barium, iron, other
stuff. These alter the natural electromagnetic atmosphere, making
everything- air, water, earth, US - more electroconductive.
> >
> > You cannot separate this from the EM spectrum waves put out from
cellphone towers, wifi, smart meter/grid etc. Trees and plants are
dying, firefighters are fighting the hottest fires they've ever
encountered. The heat now is not just thermal heat. It's a chemical
heat. Here, it's 100 degrees lately. I'm used to that. But it's
different. You feel like you're going to melt. The water is
electroconductive. The earth is biting back with "stray voltage" that is
harming humans and animals.
> >
> > It's all connected. So we are assaulted from the air, the water
(fluoride + all the drugs everyone is peeing out + myriads of
chemicals), Everyone has a threshhold they can deal with - stress,
toxins, whatever. When that is maxed, we're in trouble big time.
> >
> > I'm having trouble with this device. It keeps getting off track...
and words are jumping around.  I'm going to stop and try on a new post.
> >
> > Judy

On May 15, Alicja <[hidden email]> wrote:
> OK, Judy. I did go to Wikipedia, which dismisses the issue. Of course,
> Wikipedia is not always right, and it often goes with the mainstream. I
> will look some more. Why, what would be the purpose of chemtrailing? To
> deliberately hurt people?

Supposedly it is to stop/slow the effects of global warming.  Of course
Wikipedia dismisses this, as they take the "popular" (and sometimes wrong)
opinion on things.  All one has to do is examine the strange things that
are going on directly above involving airplane contrails that do not
dissipate as they used to in the 1980's, but rather grown and take over
the sky.  Many a clear day gets turned into overcast purely due to
these airplanes...

Marc

oh, honey, please do your research on chemtrails.
two excellent documentaries.  
many more on youtube.  
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA‎
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfJO0-cTis‎


On May 15, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Alicja <[hidden email]> wrote:

Marc,

I've been looking at this a lot too. I am watching trails outside my window right now! If people are interested in learning more, here is one site that describes what's happening: http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/about-rosalind-peterson

Many other sites/youtube videos are sensationalistic - scary music and sound effects, abrupt graphics, which make it seem like a conspiracy theory. Rosalind Peterson is not like that. She is very brave to take a stand.

I too got very down after learning about this but now I know that that feeling just makes everything worse. So I believe that it's about individual consciousness/kindness, that radiates outward, affecting others positively.

Still, I'd love to have a chat with Eckhart Tolle about geoengineering!

Amanda


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

Alicja,

Here's the original study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18821198
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18821198>

It was picked up and reported in a lot of popular media.

Christine

--- In [hidden email], "Alicja"  wrote:
>
> I love hearing new ideas! Do you remember where you saw info/article
on
> this connection (emf and the blood-brain barrier)?
>
> Now, both coconut oil and olive leaf extract are antifungal, so in
those
> with fungal/Candida issues, they will produce mycotoxins (the
die-off).
> True to it, whenever I take coconut oil, my emf sensitivity goes up.
So
> you're right, it's a good idea to look for other things that help
repair
> the blood-brain barrier. I have followed the link from Laurie, who
> responded to your query, and am listening to the lecture now.
>
> I have also looked into my favorite resource -- lef website. I have
just
> found an article there that, ironically, lists caffeine as a protector
> of blood-brain barrier:
>
>
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/jan2012_Discovering-Coffees-Unique-H\
\
> ealth-Benefits_02.htm?source=search&key=bloodbrain%20barrier
>
> All it means that there is studying to be done. And I will keep
looking.
> Thank you for bringing it up.
>
> Alicja
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "christinelrc"  wrote:
> >
> > I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF
seems
> to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the
> blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have
begun
> using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my
> symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone
> else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the
BBB?
> >
> > Christine
>



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Christine - i agree with you about the BBB - I have been taking OLE for about 5 months now but cannot honestly say that I have noticed any appreciable difference - but maybe you have to take it for longer than I have been - or maybe my formulation isn't the highest I could be using - I tried coconut oil  but got terrible digestion issues so had to stop it which was a great pity because other parts of my body like my joints loved it - I get my best in terms of health if I keep my EMF exposure to a minimum which means living a very antiquated and isolated life since I cannot use the computer or phone much depending on how things are and cannot watch TV or be near other people's wified up houses so socialising is difficult to say the least 
Best
Steph


________________________________
 From: christinelrc <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013, 17:55
Subject: [eSens] Re: Pregnenolone for emf sensitivity?
 


 
I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB?

Christine

--- In [hidden email], Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:

 

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Hi,
Omega 3's are super important to help heal the blood brain barrier.
The best source is fish oil, carlson's fish oil is purity checked.
 There are plant based omega 3's, but they are not as potent, which may be why the olive oil
although very healing, isn't working.
 
It is important to understand that toxic over load and nutritional deficiencies are the root cause of every chronic health
issue. Reduce the exposure to all toxins as much as possible,.  And stop looking at vitamins/minerals as extra's, and start looking at them as ESSENTIAL.
 
These were the minerals/vitamins we would have been fed a lifetime diet of, had we known how important they were....but we didn't know, and our body's paid the price for those nutritional deficiencies.
Why? Because it doesn't matter which one came first, nutritional deficiencies or toxic overload, one opens the DOOR to the other!
 
And if your body reacts to a specific nutrient/vitamin/ect.....go back and double check the ingredients, the source and BE sure, it is
not junk. Don't assume your body doesn't like something without first checking thoroughly the purity of the source.
and if it is as clean as you can get it...then it might be the dose needs to be adjusted.
Many have a screwed up digestive/metabolism, and this means for those people, they may only be able to tolerate tiny doses.
 
P.S. A good quality Coconut Oil is an exceptional superfood. And this oil also helps combat candida/parasites...so it is possible
to have a die off reaction. It doesn't mean the body doesn't like the coconut oil, it means it is killing off candida and
this can and does make people feel very crappy.
Spirulena from a clean source ( I like the one from the www.naturalnewsstore.com  
www.naturalnews.com/036101_spirulina_superfood_nutrients.htmlý
Cachedis an excellent source of superfoods.
The differnce between Olive Oil and Coconut Oil is huge. Coconut Oil contains many fatty acids the body requires. IN addition, Coconut
oil does NOT turn rancid in the body, while heated Olive oil does. As for Olive Leaf extract, it is very important HOW this extract is
processed and harvested. Some co's use hexane, which is a petro chemical and quite toxic.
 
 
Blessings,
 
 
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      Christine - i agree with you about the BBB - I have been taking OLE for about 5 months now but cannot honestly say that I have noticed any appreciable difference - but maybe you have to take it for longer than I have been - or maybe my formulation isn't the highest I could be using - I tried coconut oil  but got terrible digestion issues so had to stop it which was a great pity because other parts of my body like my joints loved it - I get my best in terms of health if I keep my EMF exposure to a minimum which means living a very antiquated and isolated life since I cannot use the computer or phone much depending on how things are and cannot watch TV or be near other people's wified up houses so socialising is difficult to say the least

Best

Steph



________________________________

 From: christinelrc <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013, 17:55

Subject: [eSens] Re: Pregnenolone for emf sensitivity?

 



 

I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB?




Christine



--- In [hidden email], Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Alicja,

>

> Is pregnenolone an Rx?  I'm having the dizziness, and also the

> symptoms Judy mentioned.  It's getting scary in terms of my functioning.

>

> Thanks,

> Esther

>

> On May 13, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alicja wrote:

>

> > Hi, recently, I have been dealing with greater and greater sensitivity

> > to emf, manifested mainly as dizziness and headaches. I have posted

> > about my problems with new high resolution monitors some time ago.

> >

> > These problems have sent me looking for remedies that are not so much

> > for emf, but for the brain in general, especially for brain fog. Two

> > things have helped me (for both the fog and emf sensitivity): one is

> > magnesium l-threonate, another -- pregnenolone. Magnesium l-

> > threonate is

> > somewhat expensive. Pregnenolone is cheap. I take 20 mg per day. I

> > think

> > pregnenolone is more effective.

> >

> > Alicja

> >

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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steph, have you tried using it topically on your joints, etc?  
i too realized after reading posts here that i get cramps
in my legs when i eat coconut oil.  


On May 16, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Christine - i agree with you about the BBB - I have been taking OLE for about 5 months now but cannot honestly say that I have noticed any appreciable difference - but maybe you have to take it for longer than I have been - or maybe my formulation isn't the highest I could be using - I tried coconut oil  but got terrible digestion issues so had to stop it which was a great pity because other parts of my body like my joints loved it - I get my best in terms of health if I keep my EMF exposure to a minimum which means living a very antiquated and isolated life since I cannot use the computer or phone much depending on how things are and cannot watch TV or be near other people's wified up houses so socialising is difficult to say the least
> Best
> Steph

Thank you, Marc. I have started reading and watching the videos.

Alicja


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin  wrote:
>
> On May 15, Alicja czasemtak@... wrote:
> > OK, Judy. I did go to Wikipedia, which dismisses the issue. Of
course,
> > Wikipedia is not always right, and it often goes with the
mainstream. I
> > will look some more. Why, what would be the purpose of chemtrailing?
To
> > deliberately hurt people?
>
> Supposedly it is to stop/slow the effects of global warming.  Of
course
> Wikipedia dismisses this, as they take the "popular" (and sometimes
wrong)
> opinion on things.  All one has to do is examine the strange things
that
> are going on directly above involving airplane contrails that do not
> dissipate as they used to in the 1980's, but rather grown and take
over
> the sky.  Many a clear day gets turned into overcast purely due to
> these airplanes...
>
> Marc
>

Thank you, Christine. Very eye opening. Just forwarded it to my husband,
who has no problems with emf, and is therefore a bit of a skeptic.

Alicja


--- In [hidden email], "christinelrc"  wrote: