Pregnenolone for emf sensitivity?

Lizzie

I am about to reorder my OLE and after reading your note on hexalane etc I was wondering can you recommend a pure source which is known not to be manufactured using toxic chemicals?

THanks
Steph
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Hi,
Omega 3's are super important to help heal the blood brain barrier.
The best source is fish oil, carlson's fish oil is purity checked.
There are plant based omega 3's, but they are not as potent, which may be why the olive oil
although very healing, isn't working.

It is important to understand that toxic over load and nutritional deficiencies are the root cause of every chronic health
issue. Reduce the exposure to all toxins as much as possible,.  And stop looking at vitamins/minerals as extra's, and start looking at them as ESSENTIAL.

These were the minerals/vitamins we would have been fed a lifetime diet of, had we known how important they were....but we didn't know, and our body's paid the price for those nutritional deficiencies.
Why? Because it doesn't matter which one came first, nutritional deficiencies or toxic overload, one opens the DOOR to the other!

And if your body reacts to a specific nutrient/vitamin/ect.....go back and double check the ingredients, the source and BE sure, it is
not junk. Don't assume your body doesn't like something without first checking thoroughly the purity of the source.
and if it is as clean as you can get it...then it might be the dose needs to be adjusted.
Many have a screwed up digestive/metabolism, and this means for those people, they may only be able to tolerate tiny doses.

P.S. A good quality Coconut Oil is an exceptional superfood. And this oil also helps combat candida/parasites...so it is possible
to have a die off reaction. It doesn't mean the body doesn't like the coconut oil, it means it is killing off candida and
this can and does make people feel very crappy.
Spirulena from a clean source ( I like the one from the www.naturalnewsstore.com 
www.naturalnews.com/036101_spirulina_superfood_nutrients.htmlý
Cachedis an excellent source of superfoods.
The differnce between Olive Oil and Coconut Oil is huge. Coconut Oil contains many fatty acids the body requires. IN addition, Coconut
oil does NOT turn rancid in the body, while heated Olive oil does. As for Olive Leaf extract, it is very important HOW this extract is
processed and harvested. Some co's use hexane, which is a petro chemical and quite toxic.


Blessings,


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      Christine - i agree with you about the BBB - I have been taking OLE for about 5 months now but cannot honestly say that I have noticed any appreciable difference - but maybe you have to take it for longer than I have been - or maybe my formulation isn't the highest I could be using - I tried coconut oil  but got terrible digestion issues so had to stop it which was a great pity because other parts of my body like my joints loved it - I get my best in terms of health if I keep my EMF exposure to a minimum which means living a very antiquated and isolated life since I cannot use the computer or phone much depending on how things are and cannot watch TV or be near other people's wified up houses so socialising is difficult to say the least

Best

Steph



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I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems to open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the blood-brain barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun using both on alternate days and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Thiamine (B1) is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone else seen any other recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB?




Christine



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> Hi Alicja,

>

> Is pregnenolone an Rx?  I'm having the dizziness, and also the

> symptoms Judy mentioned.  It's getting scary in terms of my functioning.

>

> Thanks,

> Esther

>

> On May 13, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alicja wrote:

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> > Hi, recently, I have been dealing with greater and greater sensitivity

> > to emf, manifested mainly as dizziness and headaches. I have posted

> > about my problems with new high resolution monitors some time ago.

> >

> > These problems have sent me looking for remedies that are not so much

> > for emf, but for the brain in general, especially for brain fog. Two

> > things have helped me (for both the fog and emf sensitivity): one is

> > magnesium l-threonate, another -- pregnenolone. Magnesium l-

> > threonate is

> > somewhat expensive. Pregnenolone is cheap. I take 20 mg per day. I

> > think

> > pregnenolone is more effective.

> >

> > Alicja

> >

> >

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Hi Patricia

I keep meaning to use it topically - espec on a knee joint which is particularly troublesome - will do an experiment with it and will report back!
Steph



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steph, have you tried using it topically on your joints, etc?
i too realized after reading posts here that i get cramps
in my legs when i eat coconut oil.

On May 16, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Christine - i agree with you about the BBB - I have been taking OLE for about 5 months now but cannot honestly say that I have noticed any appreciable difference - but maybe you have to take it for longer than I have been - or maybe my formulation isn't the highest I could be using - I tried coconut oil  but got terrible digestion issues so had to stop it which was a great pity because other parts of my body like my joints loved it - I get my best in terms of health if I keep my EMF exposure to a minimum which means living a very antiquated and isolated life since I cannot use the computer or phone much depending on how things are and cannot watch TV or be near other people's wified up houses so socialising is difficult to say the least
> Best
> Steph


 

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i am wondering if it is because the coconut oil
begins to dislodge the heavy metals in my
ankles & legs.  i had a 'heavy metal attack'
years ago when i was working for hyundai
semi-conductors.  i think that might be what
caused me to become an antenna for emf.  ?
love, patricia


On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

> Hi Patricia
>
> I keep meaning to use it topically - espec on a knee joint which is particularly troublesome - will do an experiment with it and will report back!
> Steph
>
>  
> steph, have you tried using it topically on your joints, etc?
> i too realized after reading posts here that i get cramps
> in my legs when i eat coconut oil.

I think you're right, Patricia.  I get all sorts of
nasty reactions from coconut oil, and also the
latest trendy item in our grocery store -- coconut
water.  I don't think my liver can process all
the toxins that are being liberated by the
coconut oil.  So I just avoid it.

Marc



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> i am wondering if it is because the coconut oil
> begins to dislodge the heavy metals in my
> ankles & legs.  i had a 'heavy metal attack'
> years ago when i was working for hyundai
> semi-conductors.  i think that might be what
> caused me to become an antenna for emf.  ?
> love, patricia

Dr. Belpomme recommends antihistamines. This might explain why I often feel better after taking diphenhydramine, even though it also makes me drowsy.

Rolf


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I react to coconut oil too but I seem to be able to handle the water.  Alot of hype I think.
Aimee

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I think you're right, Patricia.  I get all sorts of
nasty reactions from coconut oil, and also the
latest trendy item in our grocery store -- coconut
water.  I don't think my liver can process all
the toxins that are being liberated by the
coconut oil.  So I just avoid it.

Marc



On June 18, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> i am wondering if it is because the coconut oil
> begins to dislodge the heavy metals in my
> ankles & legs.  i had a 'heavy metal attack'
> years ago when i was working for hyundai
> semi-conductors.  i think that might be what
> caused me to become an antenna for emf.  ?
> love, patricia


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yes, easy does it on all cleansing foods.  
i wonder if the DE silica helps detox the
heavy metals.  ?  sounds like it's good
for EVERYTHING... almost.  this is a
really good blog post i read just now
and there are lots of interesting comments...
http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2013/02/foodless-friday-health-benefits-of-diatomaceous-earth.html
might help with liver detox too.  
americans usually eat every day.
europeans often skip a day and fast a
week or month in the summer.  
we rarely cleanse and let our digestive
tracts rest and recoup from all the
fancy combinations of foods & drinks
we put into them.  we just expect them
to keep on working without much
intervention.  DE is an easy cleanse.  
:)  
love, patricia  



On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

best, i suspect, as with all foods, to eat it whole.
i used to buy cartons of sweet young coconuts
from thailand... would just open them and use
them in desserts, smoothies, etc... or just put
in a straw and drink the juice.  i am not all that
comfortable with the packaged coconut products
out now... except for coconut bliss ice cream...
my friend larry makes it and it is very high
quality... and yummy to the max.  :)  
i'm kinda prejudiced, i'm sure.  :)
love, patricia  


On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Aimee wrote:

> I react to coconut oil too but I seem to be able to handle the water.  Alot of hype I think.
> Aimee

Lipid swishing can work with coconut oil.     First thing in the morning when you get up, you put a slightly rounded teaspoon of the oil into your mouth and let it melt and swish it around for 15 minutes a day, then spit it out.   It gets absorbed into the body through the mouth tissues in a way that is different from when it is going through the digestive tract.  

Following my naturapth's suggestion, I did it for 2 weeks with Trader Joe's organic coconut oil.   The first day, I felt more tired.  After that I was fine.

After the 2 weeks I ate 1 teaspoon of the oil in addition to the
lipid swishing. The recommended amount was 1 teaspoon once or twice a week.    The next day after eating the coconut oil, I noticed a slight increase in brain problems, but they were gone the following day.  Eating 1 teaspoon a week for now.

I've heard that the lipid swish works with good quality organic olive oil too, but it can produce a harsher die-off experience.  

Sue
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Hi,

My doctor is Pr Belpomme and here is what he prescribes:
Polaramine 2 mg (3 pills a day before bed)
Tanakan (3 pipettes per day)
Bevitine: 2 per day
Beflavine: 2 per day
Magne B6: 3 per day
Omacor: 2 per day
Zymad 200 000: one very 2 monthes

He said he was ok with me taking ORGANIC CHLORELLA as I am intoxicated with
mercury (when my dentist took out 6 metal fillings without precaution in
2006).

Dominique
Paris-France

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Dr. Belpomme recommends antihistamines. This might explain why I often feel
better after taking diphenhydramine, even though it also makes me drowsy.

Rolf


On May 15, 2013, at 6:55 PM, christinelrc wrote:

> I have read some research on the blood-brain barrier (which EMF seems to
open). The things I have seen recommended to help strengthen the blood-brain
barrier are Olive Leaf Extract and Coconut Oil. I have begun using both on
alternate days and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Thiamine (B1)
is also recommended, but makes me itch. Anyone else seen any other
recommendations for repairing/strengthening the BBB? time ago.


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Did ok w pregne, but the coconut oil just put on food and seemed to be more tired and wondered if it was killing candida as heard about and also bacteria, so... reacting to that?
 That was scary about the Brain blood barrier, and if GABA affects your then BBB is holey like your intestines might be. Is that Really true ?
Lynn D


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Hi Dominique, thanks for the details, that's very interesting. Do you think it's working? That's quite a mega-dose of vit D3 you're getting. I also had many amalgams, and am doing a mercury detox with chlorella and Allium ursinum (Klinghardt protocol).

Rolf


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Hi rolf,
Me i have just started the treatment.
But I met a woman in the waiting room who told me that after a six month
treatement she was feeling great.
Almost 'normal' again. Full of energy with less symptoms. She showed me her
encephaloscan before and after treatment and her brain is oxygenated again.
She was a air hostess and got exposed to radiation on the plane.
With the great idea they had to offer wifi on planes their flight attendants
are now getting sick. As the fly minimum 10 days per month.

dominique

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Hi Dominique, thanks for the details, that's very interesting. Do you think
it's working? That's quite a mega-dose of vit D3 you're getting. I also had
many amalgams, and am doing a mercury detox with chlorella and Allium
ursinum (Klinghardt protocol).

Rolf


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drowsy. BBB?
> >
> > Christine
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Alicja,
> > >
> > > Is pregnenolone an Rx? I'm having the dizziness, and also the
> > > symptoms Judy mentioned. It's getting scary in terms of my
functioning.


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On June 20, dupond et dupond <[hidden email]> wrote:
> With the great idea they had to offer wifi on planes their flight attendants
> are now getting sick. As the fly minimum 10 days per month.

Wi-fi on planes is not as bad as wi-fi everywhere else... in my house for
example, my laptop can see DOZENS of wi-fi transmitters from our
neighbors, 7 days a week, 24 hours per day.  At least on an airplane,
there is probably only one transmitter.

Marc

Only one but in a metal carcass…  so bouncing off.

We know it worse when the signal is in a car, bus, train and plane.

 

dominique

 

 

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On June 20, dupond et dupond <[hidden email] <mailto:dsassi%40wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
> With the great idea they had to offer wifi on planes their flight
attendants
> are now getting sick. As the fly minimum 10 days per month.

Wi-fi on planes is not as bad as wi-fi everywhere else... in my house for
example, my laptop can see DOZENS of wi-fi transmitters from our
neighbors, 7 days a week, 24 hours per day. At least on an airplane,
there is probably only one transmitter.

Marc





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> Wi-fi on planes is not as bad as wi-fi everywhere else... in my house for
> example, my laptop can see DOZENS of wi-fi transmitters from our
> neighbors, 7 days a week, 24 hours per day.  At least on an airplane,
> there is probably only one transmitter.

It seems wifi-enabled devices need to be factored in when considering the amount of radiation an airline passenger is exposed to.

I've seen complaints about wifi on airplanes.  One person's laptop will get on the net, while another's does not.  Wifi-enabled devices emit bursts of RF when searching for wifi.
And once connected, the RF radiation from the wifi modem and device receiving it increases.

Sue
 


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On June 20, ob4567 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It seems wifi-enabled devices need to be factored in when considering the
> amount of radiation an airline passenger is exposed to.

Still, I have flown several times in the past few years, and
wi-fi on planes has been the least of my concerns...

Instead, the REALLY BOTHERSOME EMF when traveling by
plane are (for me, at least):

 -- full body scanners (ouch!)
 -- large crowds of people at the airport terminals all using their iPhones
 -- the person sitting next to you on the airplane using their iPad/iPhone
    (doesn't need to be using wi-fi to bother me)

Marc

> Still, I have flown several times in the past few years, and
> wi-fi on planes has been the least of my concerns...

That's great to hear :)

> Instead, the REALLY BOTHERSOME EMF when traveling by
> plane are (for me, at least):
>
>  -- full body scanners (ouch!)
>  -- large crowds of people at the airport terminals all using their iPhones
>  -- the person sitting next to you on the airplane using their iPad/iPhone
>     (doesn't need to be using wi-fi to bother me)
>

Yes, lots of ways to lessen the comfort of a flight.

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On June 20, ob4567 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Still, I have flown several times in the past few years, and
> > wi-fi on planes has been the least of my concerns...
>
> That's great to hear :)

You can also try to fly on airplanes that don't have wi-fi
installed, but in my experience the online booking sites
aren't always accurate -- for example, I once booked a
plane that was listed as not having wi-fi, but when I
got on the plane it was obvious that it DID have wi-fi.

Marc

I agree, Marc, that the multitude of different wi-fi networks in my neighborhood affects me much worse than the ONE wireless network we have on campus where I work.

It used to be such a relief to fly, because everyone had to have their devices off, but now as soon as we're in the air everyone's back on their phones/tablets/laptops. Even on takeoff and landing now, I believe the devices only have to be on airplane mode. And pilots are using iPads to access flight manuals... iPads and iPhones are definitely the worst devices for my EMF sensitivity.

On another related topic, someone came around last night selling wireless security systems in my neighborhood, telling us they had already signed several of our neighbors <shudder>. There is no end to it, is there?

Christine

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