Potential Help with EMF

I have been lurking for sometime picking up hints how to combat this living torture.

I'd like to share what I have learned so far.  

Someone who live in Miami wrote in to this chat board about oolitic limestone.  I live in southern Florida and found a source to buy the product in bulk.  I brough home five six pound boulders and placed   them under my bed each corner on the floor.  The sixth one I took to work and placed it down by my feet where all the electrical wires are located.  

I have 50 lbs of small rocks taking up residence in my kitchen area.  My puppy goes in and selects certain rocks and gets her mineral fix.  It may be the calcite/dolomite that she need in her diet.

After I placed the rocks under my bed, I felt immediate relief. The zapping at night has lessened.  Before, I was getting hit in my feet and the tips of my toes were becoming numb.  At work, the onslaught of electricity zipping around me has also lessened.  

I bought some smaller size stones and have them in plastic bags.  I put my feet up at work on a cardboard box with the bag of rocks there and that helps.

When it rains (which is quite often), I can feel the electrity coming up through the ground and in to my feet.  That's why I elevate my feet at work.

I have the foil blankets over my windows and have them down at night.  That also helps.

My neighbor is sensitive to the Smart Meter. He had to move out of his room because it was right by his head.  He went to Lowes and bought a strip of insulation that has metal on the back and tacked it to his walls.  He said that really helped him.

I just ordered a product called Energy Mizer which is supposed to stop 70 - 80% of EMF, stopping the peaks and valley of energy coming in to the house. And, it is supposed to save money on the electricity bill.  I also ordered a unit that measures the EMF so I can see for myself how much it helps.  I should have the items this week.  If this really does what it is advertised to do, I will be shouting this from the roof tops.

Oh, I put up my metal blankets this morning.  My puppy decided to take a nap on my bed.  I heard her coughing and gagging.  I believe she was hit by a wave in her heart. I have two bags of rocks by my bed.  I placed one bag of rocks on her heart and another one on her shoulder area and held them there for approximately ten minutes.  After the ten minutes, she stood up, gave a shake and hopped off the bed - just fine.  These rocks work.

My girlfried is EXTREMELY sensitive to EMF and is also being tortured.  She is an intuitive and can see the energy zipping through the air.  I am hoping the Energy Mizer will work for her.  She wakes up numb every morning.  

She lived in a trailer - perfect for EMF to zap through.  She put out 10 bags of the oolite limestone under her trailer and the zapping has lessened.  She put a 50 lb. bag of the powdered limestone at the foot of her bed.  She reported that her feet are as numb as they were.  

We'll be experimenting with the Energy Mizer.  If it does what they say it does, I'll be shouting this from the roof tops.

Hey there Jill - please definitely feed back to us on the E nergy mizer - hope it works for you. 

I'm in the UK - can we get the oolitic limestone here does anyone know???

Tha nks

Steph


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Subject: [eSens] Potential Help with EMF
 

 
I have been lurking for sometime picking up hints how to combat this living torture.

I'd like to share what I have learned so far.

Someone who live in Miami wrote in to this chat board about oolitic limestone.  I live in southern Florida and found a source to buy the product in bulk.  I brough home five six pound boulders and placed   them under my bed each corner on the floor.  The sixth one I took to work and placed it down by my feet where all the electrical wires are located.

I have 50 lbs of small rocks taking up residence in my kitchen area.  My puppy goes in and selects certain rocks and gets her mineral fix.  It may be the calcite/dolomite that she need in her diet.

After I placed the rocks under my bed, I felt immediate relief. The zapping at night has lessened.  Before, I was getting hit in my feet and the tips of my toes were becoming numb.  At work, the onslaught of electricity zipping around me has also lessened.

I bought some smaller size stones and have them in plastic bags.  I put my feet up at work on a cardboard box with the bag of rocks there and that helps.

When it rains (which is quite often), I can feel the electrity coming up through the ground and in to my feet.  That's why I elevate my feet at work.

I have the foil blankets over my windows and have them down at night.  That also helps.

My neighbor is sensitive to the Smart Meter. He had to move out of his room because it was right by his head.  He went to Lowes and bought a strip of insulation that has metal on the back and tacked it to his walls.  He said that really helped him.

I just ordered a product called Energy Mizer which is supposed to stop 70 - 80% of EMF, stopping the peaks and valley of energy coming in to the house. And, it is supposed to save money on the electricity bill.  I also ordered a unit that measures the EMF so I can see for myself how much it helps.  I should have the items this week.  If this really does what it is advertised to do, I will be shouting this from the roof tops.

Oh, I put up my metal blankets this morning.  My puppy decided to take a nap on my bed.  I heard her coughing and gagging.  I believe she was hit by a wave in her heart. I have two bags of rocks by my bed.  I placed one bag of rocks on her heart and another one on her shoulder area and held them there for approximately ten minutes.  After the ten minutes, she stood up, gave a shake and hopped off the bed - just fine.  These rocks work.

My girlfried is EXTREMELY sensitive to EMF and is also being tortured.  She is an intuitive and can see the energy zipping through the air.  I am hoping the Energy Mizer will work for her.  She wakes up numb every morning.

She lived in a trailer - perfect for EMF to zap through.  She put out 10 bags of the oolite limestone under her trailer and the zapping has lessened.  She put a 50 lb. bag of the powdered limestone at the foot of her bed.  She reported that her feet are as numb as they were.

We'll be experimenting with the Energy Mizer.  If it does what they say it does, I'll be shouting this from the roof tops.


 

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Hi Jill,

Thanks for all the info. I am in Calif. Where can I get the Oolitic limestones? Lowes? Home Depot? We have both of those near us. I want to try this. I am so very tired all the time due to adrenal fatigue caused by EMF.

I will be looking forward to more info on the Energy Mizer as to how it works out for you. Best of luck with this.


Cheryl


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Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012, 16:18
Subject: [eSens] Potential Help with EMF


 
I have been lurking for sometime picking up hints how to combat this living torture.

I'd like to share what I have learned so far.

Someone who live in Miami wrote in to this chat board about oolitic limestone.  I live in southern Florida and found a source to buy the product in bulk.  I brough home five six pound boulders and placed   them under my bed each corner on the floor.  The sixth one I took to work and placed it down by my feet where all the electrical wires are located.

I have 50 lbs of small rocks taking up residence in my kitchen area.  My puppy goes in and selects certain rocks and gets her mineral fix.  It may be the calcite/dolomite that she need in her diet.

After I placed the rocks under my bed, I felt immediate relief. The zapping at night has lessened.  Before, I was getting hit in my feet and the tips of my toes were becoming numb.  At work, the onslaught of electricity zipping around me has also lessened.

I bought some smaller size stones and have them in plastic bags.  I put my feet up at work on a cardboard box with the bag of rocks there and that helps.

When it rains (which is quite often), I can feel the electrity coming up through the ground and in to my feet.  That's why I elevate my feet at work.

I have the foil blankets over my windows and have them down at night.  That also helps.

My neighbor is sensitive to the Smart Meter. He had to move out of his room because it was right by his head.  He went to Lowes and bought a strip of insulation that has metal on the back and tacked it to his walls.  He said that really helped him.

I just ordered a product called Energy Mizer which is supposed to stop 70 - 80% of EMF, stopping the peaks and valley of energy coming in to the house. And, it is supposed to save money on the electricity bill.  I also ordered a unit that measures the EMF so I can see for myself how much it helps.  I should have the items this week.  If this really does what it is advertised to do, I will be shouting this from the roof tops.

Oh, I put up my metal blankets this morning.  My puppy decided to take a nap on my bed.  I heard her coughing and gagging.  I believe she was hit by a wave in her heart. I have two bags of rocks by my bed.  I placed one bag of rocks on her heart and another one on her shoulder area and held them there for approximately ten minutes.  After the ten minutes, she stood up, gave a shake and hopped off the bed - just fine.  These rocks work.

My girlfried is EXTREMELY sensitive to EMF and is also being tortured.  She is an intuitive and can see the energy zipping through the air.  I am hoping the Energy Mizer will work for her.  She wakes up numb every morning.

She lived in a trailer - perfect for EMF to zap through.  She put out 10 bags of the oolite limestone under her trailer and the zapping has lessened.  She put a 50 lb. bag of the powdered limestone at the foot of her bed.  She reported that her feet are as numb as they were.

We'll be experimenting with the Energy Mizer.  If it does what they say it does, I'll be shouting this from the roof tops.

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Hmmm.......this is interesting.My basement walls are Limestone.
 

Oolite
is also known as Limestone.

 

Calcite
is the principal constituent of LIMESTONE and marble.
These rocks are extremely common and make up a
significant portion of Earth's crust. They serve as one of the largest carbon
repositories on our planet.

Calcium Carbonate Sorbents

Sorbents are substances that have the ability to
"capture" another substance. Limestone is often treated and used as
sorbent material during the burning of fossil fuels. Calcium carbonate reacts
with sulfur dioxide and other gases in
the combustion emissions, absorbs them and prevents them from escaping to the
atmosphere.

LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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      Hi Jill,



Thanks for all the info. I am in Calif. Where can I get the Oolitic limestones? Lowes? Home Depot? We have both of those near us. I want to try this. I am so very tired all the time due to adrenal fatigue caused by EMF.



I will be looking forward to more info on the Energy Mizer as to how it works out for you. Best of luck with this.



Cheryl



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From: Jill <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012, 16:18

Subject: [eSens] Potential Help with EMF



 

I have been lurking for sometime picking up hints how to combat this living torture.



I'd like to share what I have learned so far.



Someone who live in Miami wrote in to this chat board about oolitic limestone.  I live in southern Florida and found a source to buy the product in bulk.  I brough home five six pound boulders and placed   them under my bed each corner on the floor.  The sixth one I took to work and placed it down by my feet where all the electrical wires are located.



I have 50 lbs of small rocks taking up residence in my kitchen area.  My puppy goes in and selects certain rocks and gets her mineral fix.  It may be the calcite/dolomite that she need in her diet.



After I placed the rocks under my bed, I felt immediate relief. The zapping at night has lessened.  Before, I was getting hit in my feet and the tips of my toes were becoming numb.  At work, the onslaught of electricity zipping around me has also lessened.



I bought some smaller size stones and have them in plastic bags.  I put my feet up at work on a cardboard box with the bag of rocks there and that helps.



When it rains (which is quite often), I can feel the electrity coming up through the ground and in to my feet.  That's why I elevate my feet at work.



I have the foil blankets over my windows and have them down at night.  That also helps.



My neighbor is sensitive to the Smart Meter. He had to move out of his room because it was right by his head.  He went to Lowes and bought a strip of insulation that has metal on the back and tacked it to his walls.  He said that really helped him.



I just ordered a product called Energy Mizer which is supposed to stop 70 - 80% of EMF, stopping the peaks and valley of energy coming in to the house. And, it is supposed to save money on the electricity bill.  I also ordered a unit that measures the EMF so I can see for myself how much it helps.  I should have the items this week.  If this really does what it is advertised to do, I will be shouting this from the roof tops.



Oh, I put up my metal blankets this morning.  My puppy decided to take a nap on my bed.  I heard her coughing and gagging.  I believe she was hit by a wave in her heart. I have two bags of rocks by my bed.  I placed one bag of rocks on her heart and another one on her shoulder area and held them there for approximately ten minutes.  After the ten minutes, she stood up, gave a shake and hopped off the bed - just fine.  These rocks work.



My girlfried is EXTREMELY sensitive to EMF and is also being tortured.  She is an intuitive and can see the energy zipping through the air.  I am hoping the Energy Mizer will work for her.  She wakes up numb every morning.



She lived in a trailer - perfect for EMF to zap through.  She put out 10 bags of the oolite limestone under her trailer and the zapping has lessened.  She put a 50 lb. bag of the powdered limestone at the foot of her bed.  She reported that her feet are as numb as they were.



We'll be experimenting with the Energy Mizer.  If it does what they say it does, I'll be shouting this from the roof tops.



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Just a quick note on oolite, since I haven't gotten in here on it yet.
I did receive some, and it did have a kinda nice warm fuzzy feel when
I took it out of the pkg.

This told me it was probably radiating something. I searched, and it is.
It emits gamma rays.

The amount I don't know, but perhaps someone can find a study from say 20 yrs. ago before all our tech. was everywhere and see what the cancer rates of people living in areas with high concentrations of that is?

It does for whatever reason, maybe because it is calcium based, seem to give some relief from AC power, not the microwaves to me.  

So, we may just be trading one thing for something even worse.

~ Snoshoe

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I don't believe that the oolite is emitting gamma rays. Did you verify with a Geiger counter? Can you cite any references?

Rolf


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New Tertiary stratigraphy for the Florida Keys and southern ...

exposure-capped limestone cycles, presumably related to rapid eustatic fluctuations while ... Florida peninsula and is not present beneath the Florida Keys. Deposi- ..... (1967) divided the Miami Limestone into an upper unit, an oolitic facies, and a lower .... Correlation of gamma-ray signatures be
gsabulletin.gsapubs.org/content/110/2/231.full.pdf -

Gamma ray logging is a method of measuring naturally occurring gamma radiation to characterize the rock or sediment in a borehole. It is sometimes used in ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_logging 

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Any oolite or limestone with marble in it, may block rf. But it would be the marble, not the limestone. LIzzie
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      Just a quick note on oolite, since I haven't gotten in here on it yet.

I did receive some, and it did have a kinda nice warm fuzzy feel when

I took it out of the pkg.



This told me it was probably radiating something. I searched, and it is.

It emits gamma rays.



The amount I don't know, but perhaps someone can find a study from say 20 yrs. ago before all our tech. was everywhere and see what the cancer rates of people living in areas with high concentrations of that is?



It does for whatever reason, maybe because it is calcium based, seem to give some relief from AC power, not the microwaves to me.  



So, we may just be trading one thing for something even worse.



~ Snoshoe



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hmmm.......this is interesting.My basement walls are Limestone.

>  

>

> Oolite

> is also known as Limestone.

>

>  

>

> Calcite

> is the principal constituent of LIMESTONE and marble.

> These rocks are extremely common and make up a

> significant portion of Earth's crust. They serve as one of the largest carbon

> repositories on our planet.

>

> Calcium Carbonate Sorbents

>

> Sorbents are substances that have the ability to

> "capture" another substance. Limestone is often treated and used as

> sorbent material during the burning of fossil fuels. Calcium carbonate reacts

> with sulfur dioxide and other gases in

> the combustion emissions, absorbs them and prevents them from escaping to the

> atmosphere.

>





   
     

   
   






       

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Rolf, Some of us "are walking meters".  And keep in mind, that meters don't measure everything. There are many frequencies current meters do not pick up.  Lizzie
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Thanks for the links, but I can't access the pdf. Actually, what I meant to say is that oolite doesn't emit more than normal background levels of gamma rays. All materials in our environment contain small amounts of radioactive isotopes, and some of them emit gamma rays. The walls in your home probably emit more gamma rays, and maybe even your body.

Radioactivity in Nature: http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/natural.htm

Rolf


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Of course we are walking meters, but how do you know we can perceive gamma rays at close to normal background levels?

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Hmm....I don't think we really "know" what normal background levels are. We only know what we've been told. Secondly, science assumes people are not capable of directly perceiving gamma rays, as is illustrated in the following link.Gamma rays are radiation. Period.  I think it is entirely possible and probably very likely, that those of us who are very sensitive, can pick up radiation, whetherits non ionizing or wireless, or from other sources. The energetic signal in the body that pick up frequencies would be able to identify this energetic frequency.  Think of it this way. Those who are sensitive/allegic to certain chemicals will react to similiar products.  Ionizing radiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
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On September 19, Rolf Muertter <[hidden email]> wrote:
> All materials in our environment contain small amounts of radioactive isotopes

Yes, and there are those who claim that some radioactive minerals
are actually beneficial for you, and have been shown to have
reduced cancer rates, etc.  Night Hawk Minerals is one company
I know of that sells radioactive minerals that are supposed
to have health benefits:

  http://www.nighthawkminerals.com/ 

Marc

Yea, I came across that site awhile ago. Didn't speak to me.  Lizzie
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      On September 19, Rolf Muertter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> All materials in our environment contain small amounts of radioactive isotopes



Yes, and there are those who claim that some radioactive minerals

are actually beneficial for you, and have been shown to have

reduced cancer rates, etc.  Night Hawk Minerals is one company

I know of that sells radioactive minerals that are supposed

to have health benefits:



http://www.nighthawkminerals.com/ 



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Hey everybody,

You might remember me, I've been a long time member of this group and suffer from CFS/CFIDS and also EMF sensitivity

My
 father got a Lexus recently, and I always sleep in the room next to it.  It
has been fine for about a year, but a few days ago, my brother
programmed the GPS navigation system with our home address and I got
very sick that night.  I think it was probably activating the GPS signal
 that did it, it felt like waves of radiation were hitting me.

We took it to the Lexus dealer and they reset all
the data and factory settings back to what it was originally, deleting
everything my brother did.  A few hours later, I still felt sick from
it, and I haven't slept well in 3 nights.

Anyone have any idea what is causing this, and why can't I seem to fix it?

Thanks,
Paul

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Hi Paul,

The GPS unit itself doesn't send out any signals, it only receives signals from satellites. I know that some smartphones with GPS also use WiFi and cell signals to increase accuracy. Maybe that navigation system does the same in which case it might also transmit some signals, but only if the car is on. Were you already sensitive to microwaves? Maybe you became sensitized when the unit was first turned on. Or maybe it was just a coincidence and something else is causing the problem. Try parking the car somewhere else for one night.

Rolf


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I find that as an Esser I am extremely suspicious of new hi tech toys this  
probably gives me an additional heightened sense of awareness, like a hound
dog  that goes on a sniffing fest, when they are newly introduced into my
home  environment, which your sensitive ES body is all to familiar with.
sadly I  suspect this goes with the territory and once triggered it will take a
while for  your tolerance levels to steady down again. That said when the
Gps was  given your address is it possible that this triggers some other form
of  transmission related to the vehicle, for tracking or advertising ??! the
 only way to test for this is to analyses emissions from the car. I dont
suppose  it has a microwave alarm system installed does it ?  Nevertheless it
maybe  that you are simply on guard  given that your personal address
details were  entered into the vehicle gps.- could you try to put a
mylar/emergency blanket  over the car at night for a while ?
 
I too have issues with vehicle EMR - I recently purchased a Honda HRV on a  
1999 plate thinking it would be low tech, but hey big mistake I drive a
couple  of miles in it and want to get out of it and give it a good kicking, I
am now  back in my fiat not as jazzy looking but tolerable.
 
Paul - puk
 
 
In a message dated 21/09/2012 06:08:02 GMT Daylight Time,  
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Hi  Paul,

The GPS unit itself doesn't send out any signals, it only  receives signals
from satellites. I know that some smartphones with GPS also  use WiFi and
cell signals to increase accuracy. Maybe that navigation system  does the
same in which case it might also transmit some signals, but only if  the car is
on. Were you already sensitive to microwaves? Maybe you became  sensitized
when the unit was first turned on. Or maybe it was just a  coincidence and
something else is causing the problem. Try parking the car  somewhere else
for one night.

Rolf


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> Hey everybody,
>
> You might  remember me, I've been a long time member of this group and
suffer from  CFS/CFIDS and also EMF sensitivity
>
> My
> father got a  Lexus recently, and I always sleep in the room next to it.  
It it?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
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>
>  



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I had my Dad leave the car somewhere else last night...

I had no muscle pain and slept extremely well for 9 hours!

It is DEFINITELY the car that is the problem. 

Your theories are possibly correct, that something to do with the alarm system and GPS was activated,
I have to talk to Lexus about this and try to figure it out.

Not sure about the microwave alarm system, but that has been on since we bought the car a year ago,
so I doubt that is it.

If anyone has any specialized knowledge in this area, please let me know.




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I find that as an Esser I am extremely suspicious of new hi tech toys this
probably gives me an additional heightened sense of awareness, like a hound
dog  that goes on a sniffing fest, when they are newly introduced into my
home  environment, which your sensitive ES body is all to familiar with.
sadly I  suspect this goes with the territory and once triggered it will take a
while for  your tolerance levels to steady down again. That said when the
Gps was  given your address is it possible that this triggers some other form
of  transmission related to the vehicle, for tracking or advertising ??! the
only way to test for this is to analyses emissions from the car. I dont
suppose  it has a microwave alarm system installed does it ?  Nevertheless it
maybe  that you are simply on guard  given that your personal address
details were  entered into the vehicle gps.- could you try to put a
mylar/emergency blanket  over the car at night for a while ?

I too have issues with vehicle EMR - I recently purchased a Honda HRV on a
1999 plate thinking it would be low tech, but hey big mistake I drive a
couple  of miles in it and want to get out of it and give it a good kicking, I
am now  back in my fiat not as jazzy looking but tolerable.

Paul - puk


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Hi  Paul,

The GPS unit itself doesn't send out any signals, it only  receives signals
from satellites. I know that some smartphones with GPS also  use WiFi and
cell signals to increase accuracy. Maybe that navigation system  does the
same in which case it might also transmit some signals, but only if  the car is
on. Were you already sensitive to microwaves? Maybe you became  sensitized
when the unit was first turned on. Or maybe it was just a  coincidence and
something else is causing the problem. Try parking the car  somewhere else
for one night.

Rolf

On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:00  PM, Poker Addict wrote:

> Hey everybody,
>
> You might  remember me, I've been a long time member of this group and
suffer from  CFS/CFIDS and also EMF sensitivity
>
> My
> father got a  Lexus recently, and I always sleep in the room next to it.
It it?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
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--- In [hidden email], Poker Addict <acekingsuited06@...> wrote:

My theory is now that the wireless keys are sending a radio signals throughout the house.

But why wasn't it doing that before?  Very confused, and getting rather desperate actually.
Someone also recently suggested to me that there are "hidden GPS modes" that remain active.
Sort of a conspiracy theory, not sure I'm buying that.

Also, someone in this group wrote me a long response about laying metal around my walls
to prevent signals.  I accidentally deleted that email, feel free to send it again to the group.
Sorry!

Paul




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 From: Poker Addict <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Car GPS is making me sick!
 

 
I had my Dad leave the car somewhere else last night...

I had no muscle pain and slept extremely well for 9 hours!

It is DEFINITELY the car that is the problem. 

Your theories are possibly correct, that something to do with the alarm system and GPS was activated,
I have to talk to Lexus about this and try to figure it out.

Not sure about the microwave alarm system, but that has been on since we bought the car a year ago,
so I doubt that is it.

If anyone has any specialized knowledge in this area, please let me know.

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From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Car GPS is making me sick!


 
I find that as an Esser I am extremely suspicious of new hi tech toys this
probably gives me an additional heightened sense of awareness, like a hound
dog  that goes on a sniffing fest, when they are newly introduced into my
home  environment, which your sensitive ES body is all to familiar with.
sadly I  suspect this goes with the territory and once triggered it will take a
while for  your tolerance levels to steady down again. That said when the
Gps was  given your address is it possible that this triggers some other form
of  transmission related to the vehicle, for tracking or advertising ??! the
only way to test for this is to analyses emissions from the car. I dont
suppose  it has a microwave alarm system installed does it ?  Nevertheless it
maybe  that you are simply on guard  given that your personal address
details were  entered into the vehicle gps.- could you try to put a
mylar/emergency blanket  over the car at night for a while ?

I too have issues with vehicle EMR - I recently purchased a Honda HRV on a
1999 plate thinking it would be low tech, but hey big mistake I drive a
couple  of miles in it and want to get out of it and give it a good kicking, I
am now  back in my fiat not as jazzy looking but tolerable.

Paul - puk

In a message dated 21/09/2012 06:08:02 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hi  Paul,

The GPS unit itself doesn't send out any signals, it only  receives signals
from satellites. I know that some smartphones with GPS also  use WiFi and
cell signals to increase accuracy. Maybe that navigation system  does the
same in which case it might also transmit some signals, but only if  the car is
on. Were you already sensitive to microwaves? Maybe you became  sensitized
when the unit was first turned on. Or maybe it was just a  coincidence and
something else is causing the problem. Try parking the car  somewhere else
for one night.

Rolf

On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:00  PM, Poker Addict wrote:

> Hey everybody,
>
> You might  remember me, I've been a long time member of this group and
suffer from  CFS/CFIDS and also EMF sensitivity
>
> My
> father got a  Lexus recently, and I always sleep in the room next to it.
It it?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
> [Non-text  portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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