Possible for symptoms to be psychological Also anyone else most sensitive to RF indoors?

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Possible for symptoms to be psychological Also anyone else most sensitive to RF indoors?

chupa38
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It was suggested by my girlfriend that my condition is all in my head as it were. This got me thinking, could it be? I feel like the answer is no because I will experience symptoms when I'm not even thinking about rf's, emf's, etc. Could it be a placebo caused by my fear of specifically wifi? I know I've been leary of wifi since 2012 when I learned it was a form of radiation. Even though I read over and over that non ionizing radiation could not possibly hurt someone I thought BUT ITS RADIATION!! Anyway since 2012 I've used WiFi and just hoped it had no ill effects due to my type of work. However I have used cellular for play and never had one issue until 6 months ago. One weird thing is that I went on a trip to Disney world and never felt one bad thing in the parks. You would think it would be hell. I definitely felt the wifi in our hotel though. Interestingly computers never hurt me (I've never thought they were dangerous) and now a lot of the Intel processors produce symptoms.

I seem to be the most sensitive when I'm indoors in a neighborhood. If I'm on a walk I feel it far less.
A.C
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A.C
Suggest thou analyze thy girlfriends contribution to thy life,
where she mine it would be GTFO.
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welcomekoa
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i recommend combing through all the of research and documents that have been comprised from various organizations. i thought it was sorta in my head until i discovered people were feeling similar things. even on this forum i see similarities. frustrating thing is that (from what i was told)the dept of health in southern cali can't even investigate non-ionizing radiation...sometimes i wonder if that was by design.  i think there's a spectrum from non-ionzing to ionizing radiation and who is to say what YOU might be sensitive to? who sets those standards and what are they based upon? it's just a conversation/issue that i don't think has EVER been fully resolved because the powers at be are avoiding it. kinda like global warming....scientists say recently antartica is over 70 degrees in normal temperature!...nothing has been done really, we still carry on...money talks, bull$hit walks
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Marc Martin
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If I remember back 20+ years when this first started with me, I suspect my wife also thought this was some non-existent condition I was complaining about.  What ended up changing her mind is that some of her students/clients (she was a yoga teacher at the time) were also complaining about the same thing.  

I mean, to me it was obvious, I could have reactions to things whether I knew they were there or not (only to find out later in some cases).  And felt so much better/worse depending on where I was.  But others may have a hard time comprehending / believing in such a thing.

Marc
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chupa38
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Lol! Well she left me over this. 24 years together.
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Fog Top
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I feel much better outdoors as long as I keep moving.  However, if I sit for long outdoors in a high EMF area, then I feel it.  It seems that moving is key.  Perhaps moving keeps some of the RF from penetrating.

Same with using a old flip cell phone (cannot do smart phones) as using it outdoors is much more tolerable than using it inside - especially inside a car which will immediately give me a headache.  I cannot tolerate a  smart phone even when it's just turned on inside a car.  
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Anne-Gabrielle
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Indoors you have low-frequency EMFs on top of RFs so that may be what's making you more sensitive. You could try turning your electric meter off, to test if that makes any difference with your RF sensitivity.

Also EHS is not a psychosomatic illness... Researchers have shown for decades that low-intensity EMFs (the artificial EMFs surrounding us) do have deleterious biological effects. You could look into spin chemistry if you'd like - it's a scientific field of research that's existed since the sixties, and since then they have shown that low-intensity EMFs, the low-frequency ones and high frequency (RF) ones alike, do have biological effects. They affect free radical chemistry which is a huge regulator of pretty much all of our biological processes. Many, many scientists know that, unfortunately health safety agencies worldwide have decided they won't acknowledge such non thermal effects of EMFs.
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Floki
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Dirty Electricity and Magnetic fields from power lines especially AC, usually has a larger or just as large effect on us as wireless.  I suspect that might be the case for you.  Stop the guess and get yourself a Cornet meter and measure places where you feel it the most.  

And you're girlfriends have never been out of the cave and speak without ever experiencing it.  We on the other hand speak from experience.   Ask her and yourself, has there ever been a time where she realized the pain she was feeling was all in her head.  Like remember that time when that part of my body was hurting real bad, I was so silly, it wasn't really hurting but confused it for pain?  Or any case of anybody that she has known or seen or read?  No because pain is probably the most reliable sense out of all our senses. No one's ever mistaken something for pain.
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Floki
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I've been diving into this free radical thing, with Dr Martin Pall, with VVGC's, ROS, NO-ONOO, and oxidative stress.   Mercury toxicity is involved as it inhibits glutamate transport and cause gluamate to build up in the body.
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Re: Possible for symptoms to be psychological Also anyone else most sensitive to RF indoors?

Floki
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Exercise does have something to do with suppressing the effects a bit, but I don't know by how much and how long....
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Re: Possible for symptoms to be psychological Also anyone else most sensitive to RF indoors?

Miller
I think there's something to be said about a moving target compared to sitting still. The RFs probably aggravate more when they can repetitively slam the body's system (a sitting duck). When we get up and move from one location to another there is less chance for them to settle in on us—as long as we're not walking into a more intense zone of RFs.