Overdoing it?

Yesterday I had to go in 7 or 8 stores, all w/fluorescent lighting. I realized when I got to the first I had forgotten my sunglasses I usually have on. I came home last night saying to myself "Hey, that wasn't so bad!" But woke up today feeling like I was near death, with a fever and pains. Does anyone think that itself?could cause a fever and feeling the way I am right now? Maybe it was just a coincidence.
Amy


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> Yesterday I had to go in 7 or 8 stores, all w/fluorescent lighting. I
> realized when I got to the first I had forgotten my sunglasses I usually
> have on. I came home last night saying to myself "Hey, that wasn't so
> bad!" But woke up today feeling like I was near death, with a fever and
> pains. Does anyone think that itself? could cause a fever and feeling the
> way I am right now? Maybe it was just a coincidence.

How do you usually react to florescent lighting? Quickly or delayed
reaction? When I used to have troubles with stores, my reaction
was rather quick, in that I had to get in/get out as quickly as
possible.

Fever and pains could be some virus going around...

Marc

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How do you usually react to florescent lighting? Quickly or delayed
reaction? When I used to have troubles with stores, my reaction
was rather quick, in that I had to get in/get out as quickly as
possible.

Fever and pains could be some virus going around... >


Well, before I started and finished (just recently) a bottle of that pca-rx,
(that made me horrible ill when I first started!) I would react within 1-5
minutes being under fluorescent, but lately it's taken a longer to get an
effect. My words also would be slurred within a few minutes. I haven't taken
anything else. I'm wondering if it wasn't caused by it all and it was a delayed
reaction. I didn't have any other symptoms that would be virus related,
except a migraine (which I get with the lights anyway) and today, only one day
later I am back to feeling great. There are occasional times I get fevers out of
nowhere, but nothing like yesterday, after being under the lights so much.
Thanks again Marc~
Amy
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> Well, before I started and finished (just recently) a bottle of that
> pca-rx, (that made me horrible ill when I first started!) I would react
> within 1-5 minutes being under fluorescent, but lately it's taken a
> longer to get an effect.

I'm interested in your reaction to PCA-Rx -- I also had a fairly nasty
reaction to PCA-Rx at first, so much that I stopped taking it rather
quickly. But it sounds like you stuck with it and the bad reaction
went away?

Marc

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I'm interested in your reaction to PCA-Rx -- I also had a fairly nasty
reaction to PCA-Rx at first, so much that I stopped taking it rather
quickly. But it sounds like you stuck with it and the bad reaction
went away?


Hi Marc~ Yes, I stuck with it. At first it was so bad I didn't take it for a
few days. When I first got the bottle I was so excited I gave myself at least
four sprays. I think more sprays at night that same night. The next day,
HELL came to visit! lol I ended up calling the company, who called the
manufacturer to see if my symptoms were 'normal'. They hadn't heard of someone feeling
so badly with it, but a lot of their consumers are autistic children. So I
went down to one spray once a day, then twice, and kept upping it. I never
took more than four sprays at a time though, and only twice a day at the most.
It got to where if I was feeling bad from the lights or computers, it would
actually make me feel better. Maybe that's a placebo effect, I don't know. I
do know I have a long way to go to get better, so I'm buying another bottle of
that and then some Samento (sp.?) because I really want to try that.
Amy

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I have an old bottle of this. I think I'll try it again if it possibly willmake me less sensitive. Loni

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Subject: Re: [eSens] PCA-Rx
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:45 AM






marc@ufoseries. com writes:

I'm interested in your reaction to PCA-Rx -- I also had a fairly nasty
reaction to PCA-Rx at first, so much that I stopped taking it rather
quickly. But it sounds like you stuck with it and the bad reaction
went away?

Hi Marc~ Yes, I stuck with it. At first it was so bad I didn't take it for a
few days. When I first got the bottle I was so excited I gave myself at least
four sprays. I think more sprays at night that same night. The next day,
HELL came to visit! lol I ended up calling the company, who called the
manufacturer to see if my symptoms were 'normal'. They hadn't heard of someone feeling
so badly with it, but a lot of their consumers are autistic children. So I
went down to one spray once a day, then twice, and kept upping it. I never
took more than four sprays at a time though, and only twice a day at the most.
It got to where if I was feeling bad from the lights or computers, it would
actually make me feel better. Maybe that's a placebo effect, I don't know. I
do know I have a long way to go to get better, so I'm buying another bottleof
that and then some Samento (sp.?) because I really want to try that.
Amy

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> It got to where if I was feeling bad from the lights or computers, it
> would actually make me feel better. Maybe that's a placebo effect, I don't
> know.

That's probably a real effect -- if heavy metals are what's causing you
to be ES, then something which binds to and eliminates heavy metals
should make you feel better. I've felt better from the computer after
taking a small dose of NDF, but like the PCA-Rx, you don't want to
try a large dose of NDF unless you've cautiously built up to (probably
over the course of years) that dose.

Marc

Thanks for inadvertently reminding me that is one more thing I want to try,
the NDF. I should also add that the pca rx did NOT do anything to help with
my wifi problem. I can tolerate the desktop better, but not the wifi. That is
such a huge problem for me still, but I do believe heavy metals are still
part of the problem. I'm guessing it will take 2-3 years if I keep myself on
constant protocol of some sort. At least I'm prepared for it to take that long.
I've been sick since '96 or '97 so what's another year or two!
Amy

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That's probably a real effect -- if heavy metals are what's causing you
to be ES, then something which binds to and eliminates heavy metals
should make you feel better. I've felt better from the computer after
taking a small dose of NDF, but like the PCA-Rx, you don't want to
try a large dose of NDF unless you've cautiously built up to (probably
over the course of years) that dose.

Marc



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Hi Amy
 
I react very badly to fluorescent lighting in large shops. I get the dreadful buring red face and rash on my face and feel very hot and feverish whichusually takes a day in a lower EMF environment to subside. I don't go to the shops very often - about once a month and then only for a couple of hours because I just wouldn't have the energy to handle any more than that. I'moff work on long term sick leave at the moment and don't see how I am going to go back to an office filled with computers, broadband, cell phones, servers, electrical equipment and lit with fluorescent lights.
 
You have my sympathy.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Overdoing it?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 9:01 PM






Yesterday I had to go in 7 or 8 stores, all w/fluorescent lighting. I realized when I got to the first I had forgotten my sunglasses I usually have on.. I came home last night saying to myself "Hey, that wasn't so bad!" But woke up today feeling like I was near death, with a fever and pains. Does anyone think that itself?could cause a fever and feeling the way I am right now? Maybe it was just a coincidence.
Amy

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> I react very badly to fluorescent lighting in large shops.
> I'm off work on long term sick leave at the moment and
> don't see how I am going to go back to an office filled with computers,
> broadband, cell phones, servers, electrical equipment and lit with
> fluorescent lights.

You know, I used to have the same problems with stores and
florescent lights, and also was on long term sickleave from
work, but I eventually became well enough to go back and
work fulltime in an office environment like you describe.
It was just the right combination of detox, diet,
supplements, and protection devices which did the trick!

Marc

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I react very badly to fluorescent lighting in large shops.
> I'm off work on long term sick leave at the moment and
> don't see how I am going to go back to an office filled with computers,
> broadband, cell phones, servers, electrical equipment and lit with
> fluorescent lights.




puk replies - I am the same working in offices has to be minimul for me so I
have opted for part time work over these past few years but evan then its a
problem from all that you describe. I tried to work from home only to
discover apart from the obvious computer use issues that Dirty power, coming from in
particular a Plasma TV and Sky satellite system over the road, this has
probably been one of the worst offenders fro me in my own home as it comes in via
the wires and is very difficult to stop ! I am currently signed off for ES
by my GP and have started to claim ;imited capability to work benefits, until
I can find a way through this.

Re the Dirty power, I discovered and was able to prove hands down that the
signal from the Plasma TV over the road was swamping my house (and others)
this is being investigated, but despite the raging RF signal it may well turn
out that it still remains within permissible standards ! Which is absolutely
crazy and surely a breach of my Human rights concerning the quiet and private
enjoyment of my property et al.. I get so sick from the low MHz signal that I
believe that it caused a recent event where I was so close to being admitted
to hospital for septicaemia !


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Hi Paul
 
THis was a very intresting post - I hope you won't mind if I ask you a couple of follow up questions it is just the answers to them might be of help to me.
 
Firstly, re work and being signed off by your GP - this gives me a sliver of hope - can I ask how did you manage to do that, how did you manage to getyour GP to accept that all of the electro smog might be doing you harm? I am really interested to know because I am literally afraid to mention ES tomy GP - its like the big elephant which sits in the room every time I go to see him with my symptoms.
 
Secondly, how were yo able to prove that it was the plasma TV and sky system which were causing you significant problems? and which body is further investigating it? This is of interest to me because I have bad RF problems which are worst at night upstairs in bed [not great downstairs in day time either!] and I was putting it down to the cell towers at the end of the road,but it could be coming from something much closer to my house.
 
It would be great to hear from you about these issues.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Fri, 6/2/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Overdoing it?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 6 February, 2009, 9:59 AM







In a message dated 2/5/2009 5:45:33 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
marc@ufoseries. com writes:

I react very badly to fluorescent lighting in large shops.
> I'm off work on long term sick leave at the moment and
> don't see how I am going to go back to an office filled with computers,
> broadband, cell phones, servers, electrical equipment and lit with
> fluorescent lights.

puk replies - I am the same working in offices has to be minimul for me so I
have opted for part time work over these past few years but evan then its a
problem from all that you describe. I tried to work from home only to
discover apart from the obvious computer use issues that Dirty power, coming from in
particular a Plasma TV and Sky satellite system over the road, this has
probably been one of the worst offenders fro me in my own home as it comes in via
the wires and is very difficult to stop ! I am currently signed off for ES
by my GP and have started to claim ;imited capability to work benefits, until
I can find a way through this.

Re the Dirty power, I discovered and was able to prove hands down that the
signal from the Plasma TV over the road was swamping my house (and others)
this is being investigated, but despite the raging RF signal it may well turn
out that it still remains within permissible standards ! Which is absolutely
crazy and surely a breach of my Human rights concerning the quiet and private
enjoyment of my property et al.. I get so sick from the low MHz signal thatI
believe that it caused a recent event where I was so close to being admitted
to hospital for septicaemia !

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Don't suppose you'd share your combination formula with me by any chance? :-)

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Overdoing it?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 5 February, 2009, 5:44 PM






> I react very badly to fluorescent lighting in large shops.
> I'm off work on long term sick leave at the moment and
> don't see how I am going to go back to an office filled with computers,
> broadband, cell phones, servers, electrical equipment and lit with
> fluorescent lights.

You know, I used to have the same problems with stores and
florescent lights, and also was on long term sickleave from
work, but I eventually became well enough to go back and
work fulltime in an office environment like you describe.
It was just the right combination of detox, diet,
supplements, and protection devices which did the trick!

Marc
















     

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> You know, I used to have the same problems with stores and
> florescent lights, and also was on long term sickleave from
> work, but I eventually became well enough to go back and
> work fulltime in an office environment like you describe.
> It was just the right combination of detox, diet,
> supplements, and protection devices which did the trick!
>> Don't suppose you'd share your combination formula with me by any chance?
>> :-)

I have shared it on this group in the past, and also on
the recovering from electrical sensitivity website:

http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/cases/MarcMartin.html

However, what worked for me won't necessarily work for anyone
else! Probably the most important elements from an ES standpoint
were finding the right foods to eat throughout the day, removal
of metal fillings, Quantum Products EMF protection devices,
and a few supplements -- "Mega-H" (now also called "H-Minus"),
and "NDF". Some endocrine system support and digestive enzymes
may also have played a part, but if so it was not as obvious
as the above things.

Marc

Thanks Marc - I'll take a look at this - it should make for informative reading as always!!  I think the nest thing I have to do after my surgeryis look into removal of my amalgam fillings and possibly extraction of my root canal teeth - what a year 2009 is going to be for me!!!
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Overdoing it?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 9:11 PM






> You know, I used to have the same problems with stores and
> florescent lights, and also was on long term sickleave from
> work, but I eventually became well enough to go back and
> work fulltime in an office environment like you describe.
> It was just the right combination of detox, diet,
> supplements, and protection devices which did the trick!
>> Don't suppose you'd share your combination formula with me by any chance?
>> :-)

I have shared it on this group in the past, and also on
the recovering from electrical sensitivity website:

http://www.electric al-sensitivity. info/cases/ MarcMartin. html

However, what worked for me won't necessarily work for anyone
else! Probably the most important elements from an ES standpoint
were finding the right foods to eat throughout the day, removal
of metal fillings, Quantum Products EMF protection devices,
and a few supplements -- "Mega-H" (now also called "H-Minus"),
and "NDF". Some endocrine system support and digestive enzymes
may also have played a part, but if so it was not as obvious
as the above things.

Marc
















     

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