Out: Rejuvenizers, In: Gemstones

I had a DMSA round done (3 days and 2 nights). RESULTS:
- I took supplements with selenium but it did not make me irritable.
- In the second day I used the bioguard and I had not micraine but I felt very tired.

.... next round in the next week.

Daniele

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniele
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Bioguard individual test


May I trying to use it with DMSA in order to chelate the metals mobilized and improve the symptoms ?!

----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Bioguard individual test


>WHEN I TESTED AGAIN THE lead and mercury WITH the bioguard in my hand THE
>MEASURE WENT MUCH MORE DOWN (more desease).

Does that mean you tested worse with the Bioguard in your hand than
without?

If so, I would not use it, and would instead use something that makes
you test better.

My EAV tester did a similar test with respect to mercury and some of
her gemstones. One of the gemstones ("Hawk's Eye") made me test stronger
with respect to mercury. I suspect that if she had tested me in this
way with my Springlife Polarizers, I would have also tested stronger.

Marc


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I rather sure that EDTA time schedule (metabolizing time) is 4-6 hours. If you take it more distance you risk REdistribution of Hg molecules (specially in the brain.

Daniele
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] chelating mercury & ES symptoms


>what DMSA dose did you used when you tried it? (time and dose)

Energetically, I tested badly for DMSA, so I've never taken it.

I have however tried just a tiny amount of calcium disodium EDTA,
which is not supposed to go through the blood-brain barrier,
and had adverse symptoms in my head for the next day.

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> I rather sure that EDTA time schedule (metabolizing time) is 4-6 hours.
> If you take it more distance you risk REdistribution of Hg molecules
> (specially in the brain)

Hmmm, never read that before... but if that's the case, then it fails
my requirement that I don't need to wake up at 3am to take a supplement!

But in any case, after years of experimenting, I'm no longer convinced
that chelators (chemical or herbal) are the answer for me. But I'll
be happy to hear how others do... :-)

Marc

> I rather sure that EDTA time schedule (metabolizing time) is 4-6 hours.
> If you take it more distance you risk REdistribution of Hg molecules
> (specially in the brain)

> Hmmm, never read that before... but if that's the case, then it fails
> my requirement that I don't need to wake up at 3am to take a supplement!

This is the main concept behind "frequent dose chelation". Rather than
experience the side effects of mercury redistribution, keep the mercury
moving & flushing out of system for many days at a time. Then take a good
break. The end result is less mercury distribution while removing greater
amounts of mercury.

Just like dumping out a dirty pail of water. If one keeps the water moving
in the pail, then the dirt stays suspended in the water, and the pail is
fairly free of dirt on the bottom when it is dumped out.
Otherwise a layer of dirt would result in pail if just dumped out without
stirring. Same applies to mercury chelation. The chelator keeps mercury
from settling as long as chelator is present.

Glenn

Glenn,
Could you e-mail me the list of vitamins? I am going to start before
the dentist sees me (it takes about 2 months for the appointment!).

Shawn
--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...>
wrote:
> If you are using 100mg of ALA, you are likely chelating a fair
amount of
> mercury. I have seen stats that show that a person can chelate .5%
of brain
> mercury per day on ALA on frequent dose protocol.
>
> Since it was 2001 when you had your amalgams removed, this likely
has given
> your body time to naturally detox much of the bulk of the mercury.
ALA is
> usually used at the 2nd half of a detox, to cleanup past blood
brain
> barrier. Your schedule seems to match in that you are on 2nd half
of
> detox. So it all seems fitting what you are doing.
>
> Many suggest taking an extensive set of
vitamins/minerals/antioxidants to
> help your body cope with mercury release. I have a specific list
of
> vitamins if you are interested.
>
> One thing I've noticed is that many people seems to experience a
whole
> series of symptoms, some reducing over time, and new ones popping
up.
> Sometimes this can be due to multiple issues due to mercury (eg.
Brain fog,
> hypothyroid, ES). So one problem starts to get better, and another
surfaces
> as the dominant symptom. So as long as you are able to function &
cope with which
> is a mercury substance). I suffer fatigue, digestive problems, mood
> swings, memory/concentration loss and sometimes confusion and
> occasionally get a metal taste in my mouth.
>
> Recently I started taking a supplement to help with mercury (it
> contains fish oils and various antioxidants). It also contains
100mgs
> of Alpha Lipoic Acid. I'm also taking selenium. I started getting
> mental confusion and the metal taste in my mouth came back big time.
> I also felt extremely irritable and angry and this all heightened on
> Wed and Thurs last week which doesn't surprise me coinciding with
the
> full moon which always makes me feel much better or much worse (I
> also used a chi machine over these two days which is supposed to
> raise oxygen levels in the body). I then developed a cold (haven't
> had a cold for about 7 years!!) and during the cold my energy
levels
> and brain symptoms improved loads (even though I felt 'ill' with
cold
> symptoms).
>
> My energy levels at the moment are as if I don't have M.E. at all
> which completely amazes me and though my brain function has
improved,
> it's still a bit up and down.
>
> I wonder though if the high amount of ALA (and perhaps selenium)
> started to chelate mercury out of my system. Also the chi machine
may chelators
> not
> > getting through the blood-brain barrier. I've tried these
> chelators that
> > aren't supposed to get through, and I've gotten brain
fog, "swollen
> brain",
> > memory loss, and pains in my head in less than an hour.
> >
> > I read somewhere that exposure to certain types of EMF will open
up
> your
> > blood brain barrier, which will let the toxins through that
> otherwise
> > would not make it. And it appears that applies to chelators as
> well...
> >
> > Marc

This list is based on Dr. Andy Cutler's recommendations for vitamin dosage
during chelation.

B100 vitamins
200mg Chromium Picolinate/each meal
8gms buffered vitamin C
500mg B6
10,000 mcg + sublingual B-12 or B-12 injections
Milk Thistle Extract 300+ mg
1000 iu Vitamin E
200mg Selenium
Omega 3 (flax, 10+ gms) and Omega6 (borage 1+gms)
10+ gms Lecithin
100+mg Co-q-10
50mg DHEA
echinacea 5 times per month
Any other types of antioxidants

I have been taking this combination at lower doses in addition to USAna
vitamins & protein drinks and get amazing nutrition balance to deal with
mercury.

This list is not from a medical doctor, and is not a substitute for a
medical doctors advice. Please study your own capacity for these vitamins
before taking. Some people (especially with mercury poisoning) can react
strongly to some vitamins.

Glenn


----Original Message Follows----
From: "nyapshawn" <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: chelating mercury & ES symptoms
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:58:42 -0000


Glenn,
Could you e-mail me the list of vitamins? I am going to start before
the dentist sees me (it takes about 2 months for the appointment!).

Shawn
--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...>
wrote:
> If you are using 100mg of ALA, you are likely chelating a fair
amount of
> mercury. I have seen stats that show that a person can chelate .5%
of brain
> mercury per day on ALA on frequent dose protocol.
>
> Since it was 2001 when you had your amalgams removed, this likely
has given
> your body time to naturally detox much of the bulk of the mercury.
ALA is
> usually used at the 2nd half of a detox, to cleanup past blood
brain
> barrier. Your schedule seems to match in that you are on 2nd half
of
> detox. So it all seems fitting what you are doing.
>
> Many suggest taking an extensive set of
vitamins/minerals/antioxidants to
> help your body cope with mercury release. I have a specific list
of
> vitamins if you are interested.
>
> One thing I've noticed is that many people seems to experience a
whole
> series of symptoms, some reducing over time, and new ones popping
up.
> Sometimes this can be due to multiple issues due to mercury (eg.
Brain fog,
> hypothyroid, ES). So one problem starts to get better, and another
surfaces
> as the dominant symptom. So as long as you are able to function &
cope with which
> is a mercury substance). I suffer fatigue, digestive problems, mood
> swings, memory/concentration loss and sometimes confusion and
> occasionally get a metal taste in my mouth.
>
> Recently I started taking a supplement to help with mercury (it
> contains fish oils and various antioxidants). It also contains
100mgs
> of Alpha Lipoic Acid. I'm also taking selenium. I started getting
> mental confusion and the metal taste in my mouth came back big time.
> I also felt extremely irritable and angry and this all heightened on
> Wed and Thurs last week which doesn't surprise me coinciding with
the
> full moon which always makes me feel much better or much worse (I
> also used a chi machine over these two days which is supposed to
> raise oxygen levels in the body). I then developed a cold (haven't
> had a cold for about 7 years!!) and during the cold my energy
levels
> and brain symptoms improved loads (even though I felt 'ill' with
cold
> symptoms).
>
> My energy levels at the moment are as if I don't have M.E. at all
> which completely amazes me and though my brain function has
improved,
> it's still a bit up and down.
>
> I wonder though if the high amount of ALA (and perhaps selenium)
> started to chelate mercury out of my system. Also the chi machine
may chelators
> not
> > getting through the blood-brain barrier. I've tried these
> chelators that
> > aren't supposed to get through, and I've gotten brain
fog, "swollen
> brain",
> > memory loss, and pains in my head in less than an hour.
> >
> > I read somewhere that exposure to certain types of EMF will open
up
> your
> > blood brain barrier, which will let the toxins through that
> otherwise
> > would not make it. And it appears that applies to chelators as
> well...
> >
> > Marc

--- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Coleman
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: chelating mercury & ES symptoms


This list is based on Dr. Andy Cutler's recommendations for vitamin dosage
during chelation.

B100 vitamins
200mg Chromium Picolinate/each meal
8gms buffered vitamin C
500mg B6
10,000 mcg + sublingual B-12 or B-12 injections
Milk Thistle Extract 300+ mg
1000 iu Vitamin E
200mg Selenium
Omega 3 (flax, 10+ gms) and Omega6 (borage 1+gms)
10+ gms Lecithin
100+mg Co-q-10
50mg DHEA
echinacea 5 times per month
Any other types of antioxidants


The chelation must be setup only after amalgam removal.
The baby comlex of the Solgar vitamin has the minimum required for.


I have been taking this combination at lower doses in addition to USAna
vitamins & protein drinks and get amazing nutrition balance to deal with
mercury.

This list is not from a medical doctor, and is not a substitute for a
medical doctors advice. Please study your own capacity for these vitamins
before taking. Some people (especially with mercury poisoning) can react
strongly to some vitamins.


I think is very important start with low dose.





Glenn


----Original Message Follows----
From: "nyapshawn" <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: chelating mercury & ES symptoms
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:58:42 -0000


Glenn,
Could you e-mail me the list of vitamins? I am going to start before
the dentist sees me (it takes about 2 months for the appointment!).

Shawn
--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...>
wrote:
> If you are using 100mg of ALA, you are likely chelating a fair
amount of
> mercury. I have seen stats that show that a person can chelate .5%
of brain
> mercury per day on ALA on frequent dose protocol.
>
> Since it was 2001 when you had your amalgams removed, this likely
has given
> your body time to naturally detox much of the bulk of the mercury.
ALA is
> usually used at the 2nd half of a detox, to cleanup past blood
brain
> barrier. Your schedule seems to match in that you are on 2nd half
of
> detox. So it all seems fitting what you are doing.
>
> Many suggest taking an extensive set of
vitamins/minerals/antioxidants to
> help your body cope with mercury release. I have a specific list
of
> vitamins if you are interested.
>
> One thing I've noticed is that many people seems to experience a
whole
> series of symptoms, some reducing over time, and new ones popping
up.
> Sometimes this can be due to multiple issues due to mercury (eg.
Brain fog,
> hypothyroid, ES). So one problem starts to get better, and another
surfaces
> as the dominant symptom. So as long as you are able to function &
cope with which
> is a mercury substance). I suffer fatigue, digestive problems, mood
> swings, memory/concentration loss and sometimes confusion and
> occasionally get a metal taste in my mouth.
>
> Recently I started taking a supplement to help with mercury (it
> contains fish oils and various antioxidants). It also contains
100mgs
> of Alpha Lipoic Acid. I'm also taking selenium. I started getting
> mental confusion and the metal taste in my mouth came back big time.
> I also felt extremely irritable and angry and this all heightened on
> Wed and Thurs last week which doesn't surprise me coinciding with
the
> full moon which always makes me feel much better or much worse (I
> also used a chi machine over these two days which is supposed to
> raise oxygen levels in the body). I then developed a cold (haven't
> had a cold for about 7 years!!) and during the cold my energy
levels
> and brain symptoms improved loads (even though I felt 'ill' with
cold
> symptoms).
>
> My energy levels at the moment are as if I don't have M.E. at all
> which completely amazes me and though my brain function has
improved,
> it's still a bit up and down.
>
> I wonder though if the high amount of ALA (and perhaps selenium)
> started to chelate mercury out of my system. Also the chi machine
may chelators
> not
> > getting through the blood-brain barrier. I've tried these
> chelators that
> > aren't supposed to get through, and I've gotten brain
fog, "swollen
> brain",
> > memory loss, and pains in my head in less than an hour.
> >
> > I read somewhere that exposure to certain types of EMF will open
up
> your
> > blood brain barrier, which will let the toxins through that
> otherwise
> > would not make it. And it appears that applies to chelators as
> well...
> >
> > Marc




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Thanks Glenn!
It would be interesting to have another hair analysis to see if my
mercury levels have reduced. I thought 100mg of ALA was quite a
lot...I'm having a break from it at the moment and taking a liver
cleanse formula and other things. I definitely have a congested liver
which won't be helping with heavy metal removal as I believe they
come out with fats. I believe liver flushing can get metals out of
the body and I'm planning to do one next week.
The other supplements I'm taking are ionic minerals, B12 and EFAs but
not able to tolerate certain vitamins due to unwittingly overdosing
on them (vit A, D and B3).
Thanks for your support :)
Anne

--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...>
wrote:
> If you are using 100mg of ALA, you are likely chelating a fair
amount of
> mercury. I have seen stats that show that a person can chelate .5%
of brain
> mercury per day on ALA on frequent dose protocol.
>
> Since it was 2001 when you had your amalgams removed, this likely
has given
> your body time to naturally detox much of the bulk of the mercury.
ALA is
> usually used at the 2nd half of a detox, to cleanup past blood
brain
> barrier. Your schedule seems to match in that you are on 2nd half
of
> detox. So it all seems fitting what you are doing.
>
> Many suggest taking an extensive set of
vitamins/minerals/antioxidants to
> help your body cope with mercury release. I have a specific list
of
> vitamins if you are interested.
>
> One thing I've noticed is that many people seems to experience a
whole
> series of symptoms, some reducing over time, and new ones popping
up.
> Sometimes this can be due to multiple issues due to mercury (eg.
Brain fog,
> hypothyroid, ES). So one problem starts to get better, and another
surfaces
> as the dominant symptom. So as long as you are able to function &
cope with which
> is a mercury substance). I suffer fatigue, digestive problems, mood
> swings, memory/concentration loss and sometimes confusion and
> occasionally get a metal taste in my mouth.
>
> Recently I started taking a supplement to help with mercury (it
> contains fish oils and various antioxidants). It also contains
100mgs
> of Alpha Lipoic Acid. I'm also taking selenium. I started getting
> mental confusion and the metal taste in my mouth came back big time.
> I also felt extremely irritable and angry and this all heightened on
> Wed and Thurs last week which doesn't surprise me coinciding with
the
> full moon which always makes me feel much better or much worse (I
> also used a chi machine over these two days which is supposed to
> raise oxygen levels in the body). I then developed a cold (haven't
> had a cold for about 7 years!!) and during the cold my energy
levels
> and brain symptoms improved loads (even though I felt 'ill' with
cold
> symptoms).
>
> My energy levels at the moment are as if I don't have M.E. at all
> which completely amazes me and though my brain function has
improved,
> it's still a bit up and down.
>
> I wonder though if the high amount of ALA (and perhaps selenium)
> started to chelate mercury out of my system. Also the chi machine
may chelators
> not
> > getting through the blood-brain barrier. I've tried these
> chelators that
> > aren't supposed to get through, and I've gotten brain
fog, "swollen
> brain",
> > memory loss, and pains in my head in less than an hour.
> >
> > I read somewhere that exposure to certain types of EMF will open
up
> your
> > blood brain barrier, which will let the toxins through that
> otherwise
> > would not make it. And it appears that applies to chelators as
> well...
> >
> > Marc